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Test Drive Le Mans? Toca 2?

8 posts by 7 people · 18 May 2000 - 19 May 2000 00:18 UTC

>I was afraid of the lack of in-car view. Personally, I would never purchase a >racing "sim" without a driver view. Thanks for the info! >Andrew I wouldn't even buy a driving "game" without***pit view. While unfortunately limiting on a PC, it's the ONLY view I'll race with. I want to feel like I'm THERE, not watching it! Even if there's a "better" view for running race courses. Admittedly I've used arcade view on restarts in N99 when in heavy traffic, but only until traffic thins out. Gunner
Andrew Turner 18 May 2000 14:41 UTC#269347
Just wondering what everyone's experience has been with these. One thing I noticed is that I cannot find any screen shots from Le Mans which show an "in-the-car" view; that is, all views I saw are external and do not show the viewpoint from the drivers' perspective. Any thoughts appreciated! Andrew ps.. sorry for all the questions.... I'm jonesing for all kinds o' racing...
Olav K. Malmin 18 May 2000 14:51 UTC#269349
Andrew Turner <[email hidden]> writes: > Just wondering what everyone's experience has been with these. One thing > I noticed is that I cannot find any screen shots from Le Mans which show > an "in-the-car" view; that is, all views I saw are external and do not > show the viewpoint from the drivers' perspective. > > Any thoughts appreciated! Tried the demo for LeMans yesterday. There are no in-car-view. And that fact alone says something about the seriousness of it. Good graphics and sound though. I couldn't steer the car either, it spun on me in a sweeper after hardly touching the wheel. Toca 2 has got very critizied here at r.a.s. because of the physics model, and the ability to never loose the rear end. But at least it has a great in-car-view that tilts in the turns and when other drivers crash into you, your virtual driver is showing his fist (offensive patch anyone ?). I had good fun with it, specially the supportraces you can do. Toca 2 was also the first race game i tried where the force feedback modelled a lighter wheel when turning too much. My advice is to download both demos and try for yourself. -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying
Andrew Turner 18 May 2000 15:13 UTC#269352
I was afraid of the lack of in-car view. Personally, I would never purchase a racing "sim" without a driver view. Thanks for the info! Andrew "Olav K. Malmin" wrote:
Quoted text (27 lines)> Andrew Turner <[email hidden]> writes: > > > Just wondering what everyone's experience has been with these. One thing > > I noticed is that I cannot find any screen shots from Le Mans which show > > an "in-the-car" view; that is, all views I saw are external and do not > > show the viewpoint from the drivers' perspective. > > > > Any thoughts appreciated! > > Tried the demo for LeMans yesterday. There are no in-car-view. And > that fact alone says something about the seriousness of it. Good > graphics and sound though. I couldn't steer the car either, it spun on > me in a sweeper after hardly touching the wheel. > > Toca 2 has got very critizied here at r.a.s. because of the physics > model, and the ability to never loose the rear end. But at least it > has a great in-car-view that tilts in the turns and when other drivers > crash into you, your virtual driver is showing his fist (offensive > patch anyone ?). I had good fun with it, specially the supportraces > you can do. Toca 2 was also the first race game i tried where the > force feedback modelled a lighter wheel when turning too much. > > My advice is to download both demos and try for yourself. > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove spam when replying
Don Hancock ("Gunner") 18 May 2000 15:31 UTC#269356
Andrew Turner wrote in message <[email hidden]>... >I was afraid of the lack of in-car view. Personally, I would never purchasea >racing "sim" without a driver view. Thanks for the info! > >Andrew I wouldn't even buy a driving "game" without cockpit view. While unfortunately limiting on a PC, it's the ONLY view I'll race with. I want to feel like I'm THERE, not watching it! Even if there's a "better" view for running race courses. Admittedly I've used arcade view on restarts in N99 when in heavy traffic, but only until traffic thins out. Gunner
Simon Brown 18 May 2000 20:44 UTC#269315
TOCA 2 sits gathering dust on my shelf. That sums it up really. It isn't up to the standard of say Sports Car GT, Viper Racing or Superbike 2000, and obviously nowhere near the standard of GPL, GP500 etc. I guess you'd have to be a big TOCA fan to buy it. It has it's plus points, very nice grahpics, excellent rain effect, virtual cockpit, nice circuits, but the physics model ruins the whole game as a serious long term challenge. Simon.
Olav K. Malmin wrote in message ... >Toca 2 has got very critizied here at r.a.s. because of the physics >model, and the ability to never loose the rear end. Surely the problem with the TOCA games is that they lose the back end too easily - they resolutely fail to run wide. -- John Hartridge [email hidden]
Karl Zosel 19 May 2000 00:18 UTC#269250
I got both games. TOCA 2 is a very nice 'start me up and race' game. You can easily drive it with your keyboard (better than with the wheel...) and its good instant fun. Not a real racing sim but the ambience of the game is very very good, and so are the tracks. Le MANS is a different game. Its just awful. Andrew Turner <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws [email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Just wondering what everyone's experience has been with these. One thing > I noticed is that I cannot find any screen shots from Le Mans which show > an "in-the-car" view; that is, all views I saw are external and do not > show the viewpoint from the drivers' perspective. > > Any thoughts appreciated! > > Andrew > > ps.. sorry for all the questions.... I'm jonesing for all kinds o' > racing... >

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