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Markus Stiepel apologises for the Coulthard crash joke
Markus Stiepel apologised for his joke about Coulthard's plane crash but defended his intent. Bruce Kennewell kept criticising him, others said the group had made its point, and m.seery admitted some of his own replies had gone too far. The thread ended with fond recollections of Monty Python sketches.
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I'm from Exeter!
Sorry.
Chris
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Bruce Kennewell wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
|What's a "Drogo"....apart from being a castle in Exeter?
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|Regards,
|Bruce Kennewell,
|Canberra, Australia.
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|The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face <[email hidden]> wrote in
|message news:[email hidden]...
|> >Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my little
|> >annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3
|survived,
|> >but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it
|can't,
|> >considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too fresh
for
|> >some of you guys, I'm sorry.
|>
|> Don't need to apologise, it just seem that people around here have no
|> sense of humour at all.
|>
|> --
|> The Drogo formely known as Poopy Face
|> [email hidden]
|>
|> "Suck & fuck & cook & clean,
|> baby you know what I mean!"
|
|
Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
[email hidden]...
<snipety snap>
>wisecracking in a distasteful manner in order to
> cope. To do so shows not only total disregard for the feelings of the
> friends and relatives of those injured or killed but also displays a
> complete lack of the most basic manners.
Did I wisecrack? If so, does that imply that I "totally disregard" the above
feelings as well as that I "lack the most basic manners"? C'mon Bruce, gimme
a break, you know better than that, even though u might not really know
*me*. What irritates me the most is the use of the superlatives "total" and
"complete", but then again, I might be a little nitty-gritty.....
BTW, do u enjoy Monty Python's? Now *that's* tasteless, but I love em, even
tho I ain't no Brit! :)
xuse my sloppy english, still learning da language!
cya
Maaki
Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my little
annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3 survived,
but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it can't,
considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too fresh for
some of you guys, I'm sorry.
On the other hand, would we be allowed to make jokes like that after, let's
say, 1 year? Reason I ask is that we are all a bit the victim of modern
media, hardly any1 remembers the tragic death of Roland Ratzenberger, an
austrian Formula1 driver, who died on the same weekend as Ayrton Senna. For
Senna, a gigantic media rumble had started, Brasil had turned into a unified
funeral, ppl from all over the world pilgrimed to Imola to lay down flowers
at the wall, etc etc., and Roland? He died silently, no1 knew him, no1
really cared after a month, difference between him and Ayrton was: Do I have
to explain? Now you can imagine the difference between the death of the 2
pilots and the assumption (sp?), Coulthard would have been killed in that
crash.
I for my point find it a great gesture from David, running around in
Silverstone grinning and joking, acting as if nothing had happened, while
deep inside of him it surely leaves traces. It's the same attitude I had
(and still have) despite a motorcycle crash I had 14 years ago: Rear tire
busted at about 50 mph, couldn't hold the machine, I walked away unhurt, but
had to watch my early pregnant girlfriend die on the spot as she got run
over by a car. Ok, I didn't grin the same week, didn't grin the same month
or year, but someday I learned that again..........
Life's too short to stick yer head in the sand, but sorry again.
cya
Maaki
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Oh come on Bruce, Markus made his apologies in public, and explained
his reasoning very well. And reading about his accident gave me the
shivers...
Andre
On Sat, 6 May 2000 16:25:33 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)
>(snip) >>Do I have to explain? >(unsnip) > >Yes....I think you probably _do_ have to explain, Markus. >As far as I recall nobody made any jokes about Senna's or Ratzenberger's >accidents. Senna's death, and the events that followed it, may have pushed >Ratzenberger's into the background, but nobody joked about either fatality. > >Bad analogy, old mate. Try again.Shane.
The difference is mate, that this is no private funeral or gathering where
mates know each other intimately. It is a worldwide public forum, where
absolutely anybody can walk in. As I said in a previous post, a relative of
one of those dead pilots lives a few streets down from me. What if that guy
was the brother of one of the correspondants in here?
Taking your analogy further, If you was burying a member of your family and
a stranger walked into the boneyard and started making wisecracks whilst the
women were weeping over the grave......OK I'm taking it to extremes here
but...............
As well of your famed and legendary humour, I hear you Aussies can get a
bit punch happy from time to time as well..
MS
"Shane Lowry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:wWPQ4.483$%[email hidden]...
> ppl deal with tragedies in different ways. As an aussie Bruce you knowthat
> as a group we tend to take the piss out of any situation
(snip)
>Do I have to explain?(unsnip)
Yes....I think you probably _do_ have to explain, Markus.
As far as I recall nobody made any jokes about Senna's or Ratzenberger's
accidents. Senna's death, and the events that followed it, may have pushed
Ratzenberger's into the background, but nobody joked about either fatality.
Bad analogy, old mate. Try again.
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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------
Markus Stiepel <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:8f085c$er7$[email hidden]...
> Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my little
> annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3 survived,
> but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it
can't,
> considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too fresh for
> some of you guys, I'm sorry.
>
> On the other hand, would we be allowed to make jokes like that after,
let's
> say, 1 year? Reason I ask is that we are all a bit the victim of modern
> media, hardly any1 remembers the tragic death of Roland Ratzenberger, an
> austrian Formula1 driver, who died on the same weekend as Ayrton Senna.
For
> Senna, a gigantic media rumble had started, Brasil had turned into a
unified
> funeral, ppl from all over the world pilgrimed to Imola to lay down
flowers
> at the wall, etc etc., and Roland? He died silently, no1 knew him, no1
> really cared after a month, difference between him and Ayrton was: Do I
have
> to explain? Now you can imagine the difference between the death of the 2
> pilots and the assumption (sp?), Coulthard would have been killed in that
> crash.
>
> I for my point find it a great gesture from David, running around in
> Silverstone grinning and joking, acting as if nothing had happened, while
> deep inside of him it surely leaves traces. It's the same attitude I had
> (and still have) despite a motorcycle crash I had 14 years ago: Rear tire
> busted at about 50 mph, couldn't hold the machine, I walked away unhurt,
but
> had to watch my early pregnant girlfriend die on the spot as she got run
> over by a car. Ok, I didn't grin the same week, didn't grin the same month
> or year, but someday I learned that again..........
>
> Life's too short to stick yer head in the sand, but sorry again.
>
> cya
> Maaki
>
> --
> ________________________________
> Check out my home once in a while:
> http://www.maaki.de.vu
> ........still a lot of work to be done
> ________________________________
>
>
ppl deal with tragedies in different ways. As an aussie Bruce you know that
as a group we tend to take the piss out of any situation. I remember after
the Challenger disaster the jokes that flowed the next day. I'm not saying
that you shouldnt feel something when a tragedy happens, and yes the joke
may have been in bad taste, but it happens all over the world.
If ppl feel the need to point out that its in bad taste fine. However there
was no need IMHO to put the guy down so hard for it. (thats the group ...
not you bruce)
Shane
Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
pushed
> Ratzenberger's into the background, but nobody joked about eitherfatality.
survived,
> > but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it
> can't,
> > considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too freshfor
2
> > pilots and the assumption (sp?), Coulthard would have been killed inthat
> > crash.
> >
> > I for my point find it a great gesture from David, running around in
> > Silverstone grinning and joking, acting as if nothing had happened,while
> > deep inside of him it surely leaves traces. It's the same attitude I had
> > (and still have) despite a motorcycle crash I had 14 years ago: Reartire
> > busted at about 50 mph, couldn't hold the machine, I walked away unhurt,
> but
> > had to watch my early pregnant girlfriend die on the spot as she got run
> > over by a car. Ok, I didn't grin the same week, didn't grin the samemonth
Quoted text (7 lines)
> (snip) > >Do I have to explain? > (unsnip) > > Yes....I think you probably _do_ have to explain, Markus. > As far as I recall nobody made any jokes about Senna's or Ratzenberger's > accidents. Senna's death, and the events that followed it, may haveQuoted text (13 lines)
> > Bad analogy, old mate. Try again. > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Markus Stiepel <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8f085c$er7$[email hidden]... > > Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my little > > annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3Quoted text (16 lines)
> > some of you guys, I'm sorry. > > > > On the other hand, would we be allowed to make jokes like that after, > let's > > say, 1 year? Reason I ask is that we are all a bit the victim of modern > > media, hardly any1 remembers the tragic death of Roland Ratzenberger, an > > austrian Formula1 driver, who died on the same weekend as Ayrton Senna. > For > > Senna, a gigantic media rumble had started, Brasil had turned into a > unified > > funeral, ppl from all over the world pilgrimed to Imola to lay down > flowers > > at the wall, etc etc., and Roland? He died silently, no1 knew him, no1 > > really cared after a month, difference between him and Ayrton was: Do I > have > > to explain? Now you can imagine the difference between the death of theQuoted text (17 lines)
> > or year, but someday I learned that again.......... > > > > Life's too short to stick yer head in the sand, but sorry again. > > > > cya > > Maaki > > > > -- > > ________________________________ > > Check out my home once in a while: > > http://www.maaki.de.vu > > ........still a lot of work to be done > > ________________________________ > > > > > >You sure are the type of guy who has to have the last wor
Bruce Kennewell wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
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>I'm going "on and on about it" becuase I don't usually finish making a >statement whilst in mid-sentence. >However, in your case I'll ma > >snakehands <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:eJh#g3$t$GA.232@cpmsnbbsa03... >> Hi Bruce >> >> What more do you what him to say? Or do you just enjoy hounding people? I >do >> agree with you BTW, in the most part, but I can't see the point in going >on >> and on and on about it > >Hi Bruce
What more do you what him to say? Or do you just enjoy hounding people? I do
agree with you BTW, in the most part, but I can't see the point in going on
and on and on about it.
Cheers
Bruce Kennewell wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
of
>a recent situation involving fatalities.
>
>You really just don't get it, do you?
>
>
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>You ask if you were you "wise-cracking"? >Yes....of course you were. You made comments that you considered funny, >Markus, about a situation that wasn't. The perfect example of a >"wisecrack". > >Monty Python is certainly tasteless in a lot of instances (the fat guy >exploding in "The Meaning of Life", for example. I recall quite vividly >several Japanese gentlemen getting up and walking out of a sales seminar >when that was shown whilst we were having after-dinner coffee!) but I don't >recall ever seeing, hearing or reading any of their scripts that made funI believed "wisecrack" is a person who always knows everything better,
correct me if I'm wrong.
Concerning Monty Python's, well, they did not use recent situations, rather
they were more global. Example: Making fun of disabled is a big thread in
their repertoire, I wouldn't be surprised if 90% wouldn't find *that*
funny.......
Bruce, can we agree on the fact that in my original post I was simply
drawing a little sarcastic note concerning Formula One using the word
"wings" as the clue-word? With no intention to hurt the feelings of any1?
Yes, I *do* get it, but it seems you don't wanna switch viewpoints (or at
least try to understand them.......)
BTW, I heard that "joke" on a radio-station.....shall we sue them? :))
cya
Maaki
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Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
[email hidden]...
> You ask if you were you "wise-cracking"?
> Yes....of course you were. You made comments that you considered funny,
> Markus, about a situation that wasn't. The perfect example of a
> "wisecrack".
>
> Monty Python is certainly tasteless in a lot of instances (the fat guy
> exploding in "The Meaning of Life", for example. I recall quite vividly
> several Japanese gentlemen getting up and walking out of a sales seminar
> when that was shown whilst we were having after-dinner coffee!) but I
don't
> recall ever seeing, hearing or reading any of their scripts that made fun
of
> a recent situation involving fatalities.
>
> You really just don't get it, do you?
>
>
As an Aussie I know that I will tend to stir the pot in any situation that I
consider worth stirring. (I don't believe that such an attitude is
determined by national boundaries, by-the-way; everybody does it to some
extent.)
But by the same token I will not make callous comments about any situation
which I consider to be sensitive and this (the Coulthard situation) is one
of them. And this has absolutely nothing to do with how we deal with
tragedies in different ways......it's basic decency.
I have been involved in "tragedies" enough down the years, both of a
personal nature and in those where I was on the fringes. I don't recall
anyone, myself included, wisecracking in a distasteful manner in order to
cope. To do so shows not only total disregard for the feelings of the
friends and relatives of those injured or killed but also displays a
complete lack of the most basic manners.
I make absolutely no apology for my stance on this.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------
Shane Lowry <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:wWPQ4.483$%[email hidden]...
> ppl deal with tragedies in different ways. As an aussie Bruce you know
that
> as a group we tend to take the piss out of any situation. I remember after
> the Challenger disaster the jokes that flowed the next day. I'm not saying
> that you shouldnt feel something when a tragedy happens, and yes the joke
> may have been in bad taste, but it happens all over the world.
>
> If ppl feel the need to point out that its in bad taste fine. However
there
> was no need IMHO to put the guy down so hard for it. (thats the group ...
> not you bruce)
>
> Shane
>
> Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > (snip)
> > >Do I have to explain?
> > (unsnip)
> >
> > Yes....I think you probably _do_ have to explain, Markus.
> > As far as I recall nobody made any jokes about Senna's or Ratzenberger's
> > accidents. Senna's death, and the events that followed it, may have
> pushed
> > Ratzenberger's into the background, but nobody joked about either
> fatality.
> >
> > Bad analogy, old mate. Try again.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------
> >
> > Markus Stiepel <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:8f085c$er7$[email hidden]...
> > > Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my
little
> > > annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3
> survived,
> > > but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it
> > can't,
> > > considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too fresh
> for
> > > some of you guys, I'm sorry.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, would we be allowed to make jokes like that after,
> > let's
> > > say, 1 year? Reason I ask is that we are all a bit the victim of
modern
> > > media, hardly any1 remembers the tragic death of Roland Ratzenberger,
an
> > > austrian Formula1 driver, who died on the same weekend as Ayrton
Senna.
> > For
> > > Senna, a gigantic media rumble had started, Brasil had turned into a
> > unified
> > > funeral, ppl from all over the world pilgrimed to Imola to lay down
> > flowers
> > > at the wall, etc etc., and Roland? He died silently, no1 knew him, no1
> > > really cared after a month, difference between him and Ayrton was: Do
I
> > have
> > > to explain? Now you can imagine the difference between the death of
the
> 2
> > > pilots and the assumption (sp?), Coulthard would have been killed in
> that
> > > crash.
> > >
> > > I for my point find it a great gesture from David, running around in
> > > Silverstone grinning and joking, acting as if nothing had happened,
> while
> > > deep inside of him it surely leaves traces. It's the same attitude I
had
> > > (and still have) despite a motorcycle crash I had 14 years ago: Rear
> tire
> > > busted at about 50 mph, couldn't hold the machine, I walked away
unhurt,
> > but
> > > had to watch my early pregnant girlfriend die on the spot as she got
run
> > > over by a car. Ok, I didn't grin the same week, didn't grin the same
> month
> > > or year, but someday I learned that again..........
> > >
> > > Life's too short to stick yer head in the sand, but sorry again.
> > >
> > > cya
> > > Maaki
> > >
> > > --
> > > ________________________________
> > > Check out my home once in a while:
> > > http://www.maaki.de.vu
> > > ........still a lot of work to be done
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
What's a "Drogo"....apart from being a castle in Exeter?
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face <[email hidden]> wrote in
message news:[email hidden]...
> >Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my little
> >annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3
survived,
> >but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it
can't,
> >considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too fresh for
> >some of you guys, I'm sorry.
>
> Don't need to apologise, it just seem that people around here have no
> sense of humour at all.
>
> --
> The Drogo formely known as Poopy Face
> [email hidden]
>
> "Suck & fuck & cook & clean,
> baby you know what I mean!"
Shane,
I think you are right. After sleeping on this thing, I'll say that some of
my posts were probably over the top. As a professionally qualified airframe
fitter, I guess the knowledge that my direct actions could potentially leave
500 bodies strewn over several miles makes me over sensitive to such things.
The fact remains though that the original post was not in the slightest bit
funny.
MS
"Shane Lowry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:qh3R4.518$%[email hidden]...
where
a
Quoted text (12 lines)
> i see your point MS ... and agree. just trying to add some other points of > view. I personally didnt feel it very humorous. However i did feel the > responses were a bit harsh. > > Shane > > > m.seery <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:U1%Q4.748$[email hidden]... > > Shane. > > > > The difference is mate, that this is no private funeral or gatheringQuoted text (15 lines)
> > mates know each other intimately. It is a worldwide public forum, where > > absolutely anybody can walk in. As I said in a previous post, a relative > of > > one of those dead pilots lives a few streets down from me. What if that > guy > > was the brother of one of the correspondants in here? > > > > Taking your analogy further, If you was burying a member of your family > and > > a stranger walked into the boneyard and started making wisecracks whilst > the > > women were weeping over the grave......OK I'm taking it to extremes here > > but............... > > > > As well of your famed and legendary humour, I hear you Aussies can getQuoted text (12 lines)
> > bit punch happy from time to time as well.. > > > > MS > > "Shane Lowry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:wWPQ4.483$%[email hidden]... > > > ppl deal with tragedies in different ways. As an aussie Bruce you know > > that > > > as a group we tend to take the piss out of any situation > > > > > >Fine if you're into eating Kenyan moths.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> >[link lost in import]
> Hey Bruce, this one is not bad either :-))
> [link lost in import]
> --
> The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face
> "Suck & *** & cook & clean,
> baby you know what I mean!"
You ask if you were you "wise-cracking"?
Yes....of course you were. You made comments that you considered funny,
Markus, about a situation that wasn't. The perfect example of a
"wisecrack".
Monty Python is certainly tasteless in a lot of instances (the fat guy
exploding in "The Meaning of Life", for example. I recall quite vividly
several Japanese gentlemen getting up and walking out of a sales seminar
when that was shown whilst we were having after-dinner coffee!) but I don't
recall ever seeing, hearing or reading any of their scripts that made fun of
a recent situation involving fatalities.
You really just don't get it, do you?
http://www.anu.edu.au/ANDC/Austwords/drongo
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------
The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face <[email hidden]> wrote in
message news:[email hidden]...
> Le Sat, 6 May 2000 22:40:24 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"
> <[email hidden]> a �crit:
>
> >What's a "Drogo"....apart from being a castle in Exeter?
>
> LOL
>
> Big typo here.
> I meant a Drongo, perhaps you need me to tell you what it is ;-)
>
> --
> The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face
> [email hidden]
>
> "Suck & fuck & cook & clean,
> baby you know what I mean!"
i see your point MS ... and agree. just trying to add some other points of
view. I personally didnt feel it very humorous. However i did feel the
responses were a bit harsh.
Shane
m.seery <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:U1%Q4.748$[email hidden]...
> Shane.
>
> The difference is mate, that this is no private funeral or gathering where
> mates know each other intimately. It is a worldwide public forum, where
> absolutely anybody can walk in. As I said in a previous post, a relativeof
> one of those dead pilots lives a few streets down from me. What if thatguy
> was the brother of one of the correspondants in here?
>
> Taking your analogy further, If you was burying a member of your familyand
> a stranger walked into the boneyard and started making wisecracks whilstthe
Quoted text (14 lines)
> women were weeping over the grave......OK I'm taking it to extremes here > but............... > > As well of your famed and legendary humour, I hear you Aussies can get a > bit punch happy from time to time as well.. > > MS > "Shane Lowry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:wWPQ4.483$%[email hidden]... > > ppl deal with tragedies in different ways. As an aussie Bruce you know > that > > as a group we tend to take the piss out of any situation > >My favorite Python routine was the twit Olympics. Twits gad to do things
like jump over matchboxes and the like. Of course, you have to have a sense
of humor to enjoy stuff like that.
Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
don't
> recall ever seeing, hearing or reading any of their scripts that made funof
> a recent situation involving fatalities.
>
> You really just don't get it, do you?
>
>
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> You ask if you were you "wise-cracking"? > Yes....of course you were. You made comments that you considered funny, > Markus, about a situation that wasn't. The perfect example of a > "wisecrack". > > Monty Python is certainly tasteless in a lot of instances (the fat guy > exploding in "The Meaning of Life", for example. I recall quite vividly > several Japanese gentlemen getting up and walking out of a sales seminar > when that was shown whilst we were having after-dinner coffee!) but IMan you sure are insensitive to criticize people here. Please stop, you
meanie!
Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> That's "smart-arse" (Australian and English version) or "wise-ass"
> (American).
> Not really related to a "wisecrack", although a smart-arse could certainly
> make a wisecrack.
>
> As far as sueing anyone is concerned, that's up to you....assuming thatthe
> station was German, of course.
>
> Insofar as Monty Python sketches about the disabled being a "big thread",I
> really can't say.....the only one that comes readily to mind is the knight
> in "Search for the Holy Grail", although I'm sure that there were other
> examples.
>
> We can agree that in your original post that you were being sarcasticabout
> wings in Formula One, certainly. It won't, however, change my opinionthat
> you were being insensitive in what you wrote. And it's not that I either
> don't want to switch viewpoints or try to understand them. From where Isit
in
> > their repertoire, I wouldn't be surprised if 90% wouldn't find *that*
> > funny.......
> >
> > Bruce, can we agree on the fact that in my original post I was simply
> > drawing a little sarcastic note concerning Formula One using the word
> > "wings" as the clue-word? With no intention to hurt the feelings ofany1?
> > Yes, I *do* get it, but it seems you don't wanna switch viewpoints (orat
funny,
> > > Markus, about a situation that wasn't. The perfect example of a
> > > "wisecrack".
> > >
> > > Monty Python is certainly tasteless in a lot of instances (the fat guy
> > > exploding in "The Meaning of Life", for example. I recall quitevividly
> > > several Japanese gentlemen getting up and walking out of a salesseminar
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> there isn't any alternative viewpoint. > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Markus Stiepel <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8f3f12$k6t$[email hidden]... > > I believed "wisecrack" is a person who always knows everything better, > > correct me if I'm wrong. > > > > Concerning Monty Python's, well, they did not use recent situations, > rather > > they were more global. Example: Making fun of disabled is a big threadQuoted text (16 lines)
> > least try to understand them.......) > > > > BTW, I heard that "joke" on a radio-station.....shall we sue them? :)) > > cya > > Maaki > > > > -- > > ________________________________ > > Check out my home once in a while: > > http://www.maaki.de.vu > > ........still a lot of work to be done > > ________________________________ > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: > > [email hidden]... > > > You ask if you were you "wise-cracking"? > > > Yes....of course you were. You made comments that you consideredQuoted text (14 lines)
> > > when that was shown whilst we were having after-dinner coffee!) but I > > don't > > > recall ever seeing, hearing or reading any of their scripts that made > fun > > of > > > a recent situation involving fatalities. > > > > > > You really just don't get it, do you? > > > > > > > > > > > >On Sat, 6 May 2000 06:45:26 +0200, "Markus Stiepel"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my little
>annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3 survived,
>but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it can't,
>considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too fresh for
>some of you guys, I'm sorry.
No need for apologies Markus, some people just have a sense of humour
failure or can't accept that people have the right to say whatever
they like. Of course you in turn also have to accept that others will
also say what they like in response, but it's not a reason to
apologise.
No amount of claiming the moral high ground will change what happened.
John
........and the contest "Wake up the neighbors" ......hilarious! :))
Finally, he shoots himself after missing the tied up rabbit several times!
Mean, mean, mean, yup, you really either love it or turn away in disgust!
cya
Maaki
--
________________________________
Check out my home once in a while:
http://www.maaki.de.vu
........still a lot of work to be done
________________________________
Todd Sorensen <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
2ZjR4.80758$[email hidden]...
> My favorite Python routine was the twit Olympics. Twits gad to do things
> like jump over matchboxes and the like. Of course, you have to have a
sense
> of humor to enjoy stuff like that.
I'm going "on and on about it" becuase I don't usually finish making a
statement whilst in mid-sentence.
However, in your case I'll ma
snakehands <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:eJh#g3$t$GA.232@cpmsnbbsa03...
> Hi Bruce
>
> What more do you what him to say? Or do you just enjoy hounding people? Ido
> agree with you BTW, in the most part, but I can't see the point in goingon
> and on and on about it
That's "smart-arse" (Australian and English version) or "wise-ass"
(American).
Not really related to a "wisecrack", although a smart-arse could certainly
make a wisecrack.
As far as sueing anyone is concerned, that's up to you....assuming that the
station was German, of course.
Insofar as Monty Python sketches about the disabled being a "big thread", I
really can't say.....the only one that comes readily to mind is the knight
in "Search for the Holy Grail", although I'm sure that there were other
examples.
We can agree that in your original post that you were being sarcastic about
wings in Formula One, certainly. It won't, however, change my opinion that
you were being insensitive in what you wrote. And it's not that I either
don't want to switch viewpoints or try to understand them. From where I sit
there isn't any alternative viewpoint.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------
Markus Stiepel <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:8f3f12$k6t$[email hidden]...
> I believed "wisecrack" is a person who always knows everything better,
> correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Concerning Monty Python's, well, they did not use recent situations,
rather
> they were more global. Example: Making fun of disabled is a big thread in
> their repertoire, I wouldn't be surprised if 90% wouldn't find *that*
> funny.......
>
> Bruce, can we agree on the fact that in my original post I was simply
> drawing a little sarcastic note concerning Formula One using the word
> "wings" as the clue-word? With no intention to hurt the feelings of any1?
> Yes, I *do* get it, but it seems you don't wanna switch viewpoints (or at
> least try to understand them.......)
>
> BTW, I heard that "joke" on a radio-station.....shall we sue them? :))
> cya
> Maaki
>
> --
> ________________________________
> Check out my home once in a while:
> http://www.maaki.de.vu
> ........still a lot of work to be done
> ________________________________
> Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
> [email hidden]...
> > You ask if you were you "wise-cracking"?
> > Yes....of course you were. You made comments that you considered funny,
> > Markus, about a situation that wasn't. The perfect example of a
> > "wisecrack".
> >
> > Monty Python is certainly tasteless in a lot of instances (the fat guy
> > exploding in "The Meaning of Life", for example. I recall quite vividly
> > several Japanese gentlemen getting up and walking out of a sales seminar
> > when that was shown whilst we were having after-dinner coffee!) but I
> don't
> > recall ever seeing, hearing or reading any of their scripts that made
fun
> of
> > a recent situation involving fatalities.
> >
> > You really just don't get it, do you?
> >
> >
>
>
Fine if you're into eating Kenyan moths.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face <[email hidden]> wrote in
message news:[email hidden]...
> >http://www.anu.edu.au/ANDC/Austwords/drongo
>
> Hey Bruce, this one is not bad either :-))
>
> http://www.kenyabirds.org.uk/drongo.htm
>
> --
> The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face
> [email hidden]
>
> "Suck & fuck & cook & clean,
> baby you know what I mean!"
Of course.
But "senses of humour" are like one's idea of beauty....they are to
individual tastes.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------
Todd Sorensen <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:2ZjR4.80758$[email hidden]...
> My favorite Python routine was the twit Olympics. Twits gad to do things
> like jump over matchboxes and the like. Of course, you have to have a
sense
> of humor to enjoy stuff like that.
On Sun, 07 May 2000 20:02:06 GMT, "Todd Sorensen" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>My favorite Python routine was the twit Olympics. Twits gad to do things
>like jump over matchboxes and the like. Of course, you have to have a sense
>of humor to enjoy stuff like that.
Well, perhaps they too went a little bit too far with the last
challenge of the tournament, were they had to shoot themselves...
Thankfully they missed :)
Andre
Oh yeah, that was how it went. My memory was a bit mixed up, I should
replay those Python tapes to refresh my memory!
Andre
On Mon, 8 May 2000 08:15:06 +0200, "Markus Stiepel"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
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>........and the contest "Wake up the neighbors" ......hilarious! :)) >Finally, he shoots himself after missing the tied up rabbit several times! >Mean, mean, mean, yup, you really either love it or turn away in disgust! > >cya >Maaki > >-- >________________________________ >Check out my home once in a while: >http://www.maaki.de.vu >........still a lot of work to be done >________________________________ >Todd Sorensen <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: >2ZjR4.80758$[email hidden]... >> My favorite Python routine was the twit Olympics. Twits gad to do things >> like jump over matchboxes and the like. Of course, you have to have a >sense >> of humor to enjoy stuff like that. > > >Hi John
How very refreshing :0).
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>No need for apologies Markus, some people just have a sense of humour >failure or can't accept that people have the right to say whatever >they like. Of course you in turn also have to accept that others will >also say what they like in response, but it's not a reason to >apologise. > >No amount of claiming the moral high ground will change what happened. > >JohnNo problem. :)
Hi John
How very refreshing :0).
No problem. :)


































