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My apologies to this NG ("Coulthard disqualified")

33 posts by 11 people · 05 May 2000 - 09 May 2000 13:39 UTC

Markus Stiepel apologises for the Coulthard crash joke

Markus Stiepel apologised for his joke about Coulthard's plane crash but defended his intent. Bruce Kennewell kept criticising him, others said the group had made its point, and m.seery admitted some of his own replies had gone too far. The thread ended with fond recollections of Monty Python sketches.

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Chris 06 May 2000#272369
I'm from Exeter! Sorry. Chris -- -------------------------------------------------- http://www.the.saints.btinternet.co.uk Bruce Kennewell wrote in message <[email hidden]>... |What's a "Drogo"....apart from being a castle in Exeter? | |-- |Regards, |Bruce Kennewell, |Canberra, Australia. |--------------------------- | |The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face <[email hidden]> wrote in |message news:[email hidden]... |> >Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my little |> >annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3 |survived, |> >but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it |can't, |> >considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too fresh for |> >some of you guys, I'm sorry. |> |> Don't need to apologise, it just seem that people around here have no |> sense of humour at all. |> |> -- |> The Drogo formely known as Poopy Face |> [email hidden] |> |> "Suck & fuck & cook & clean, |> baby you know what I mean!" | |
Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: [email hidden]... <snipety snap> >wisecracking in a distasteful manner in order to > cope. To do so shows not only total disregard for the feelings of the > friends and relatives of those injured or killed but also displays a > complete lack of the most basic manners. Did I wisecrack? If so, does that imply that I "totally disregard" the above feelings as well as that I "lack the most basic manners"? C'mon Bruce, gimme a break, you know better than that, even though u might not really know *me*. What irritates me the most is the use of the superlatives "total" and "complete", but then again, I might be a little nitty-gritty..... BTW, do u enjoy Monty Python's? Now *that's* tasteless, but I love em, even tho I ain't no Brit! :) xuse my sloppy english, still learning da language! cya Maaki
Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my little annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3 survived, but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it can't, considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too fresh for some of you guys, I'm sorry. On the other hand, would we be allowed to make jokes like that after, let's say, 1 year? Reason I ask is that we are all a bit the victim of modern media, hardly any1 remembers the tragic death of Roland Ratzenberger, an austrian Formula1 driver, who died on the same weekend as Ayrton Senna. For Senna, a gigantic media rumble had started, Brasil had turned into a unified funeral, ppl from all over the world pilgrimed to Imola to lay down flowers at the wall, etc etc., and Roland? He died silently, no1 knew him, no1 really cared after a month, difference between him and Ayrton was: Do I have to explain? Now you can imagine the difference between the death of the 2 pilots and the assumption (sp?), Coulthard would have been killed in that crash. I for my point find it a great gesture from David, running around in Silverstone grinning and joking, acting as if nothing had happened, while deep inside of him it surely leaves traces. It's the same attitude I had (and still have) despite a motorcycle crash I had 14 years ago: Rear tire busted at about 50 mph, couldn't hold the machine, I walked away unhurt, but had to watch my early pregnant girlfriend die on the spot as she got run over by a car. Ok, I didn't grin the same week, didn't grin the same month or year, but someday I learned that again.......... Life's too short to stick yer head in the sand, but sorry again. cya Maaki -- ________________________________ Check out my home once in a while: http://www.maaki.de.vu ........still a lot of work to be done ________________________________
Robert Allen 06 May 2000 05:49 UTC#272598
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Andre Warringa 06 May 2000 09:47 UTC#272351
Oh come on Bruce, Markus made his apologies in public, and explained his reasoning very well. And reading about his accident gave me the shivers... Andre On Sat, 6 May 2000 16:25:33 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)>(snip) >>Do I have to explain? >(unsnip) > >Yes....I think you probably _do_ have to explain, Markus. >As far as I recall nobody made any jokes about Senna's or Ratzenberger's >accidents. Senna's death, and the events that followed it, may have pushed >Ratzenberger's into the background, but nobody joked about either fatality. > >Bad analogy, old mate. Try again.
m.seery 06 May 2000 21:13 UTC#272484
Shane. The difference is mate, that this is no private funeral or gathering where mates know each other intimately. It is a worldwide public forum, where absolutely anybody can walk in. As I said in a previous post, a relative of one of those dead pilots lives a few streets down from me. What if that guy was the brother of one of the correspondants in here? Taking your analogy further, If you was burying a member of your family and a stranger walked into the boneyard and started making wisecracks whilst the women were weeping over the grave......OK I'm taking it to extremes here but............... As well of your famed and legendary humour, I hear you Aussies can get a bit punch happy from time to time as well.. MS "Shane Lowry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wWPQ4.483$%[email hidden]... > ppl deal with tragedies in different ways. As an aussie Bruce you knowthat > as a group we tend to take the piss out of any situation
Bruce Kennewell 06 May 2000 21:21 UTC#272579
(snip) >Do I have to explain?(unsnip) Yes....I think you probably _do_ have to explain, Markus. As far as I recall nobody made any jokes about Senna's or Ratzenberger's accidents. Senna's death, and the events that followed it, may have pushed Ratzenberger's into the background, but nobody joked about either fatality. Bad analogy, old mate. Try again. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Markus Stiepel <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8f085c$er7$[email hidden]... > Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my little > annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3 survived, > but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it can't, > considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too fresh for > some of you guys, I'm sorry. > > On the other hand, would we be allowed to make jokes like that after, let's > say, 1 year? Reason I ask is that we are all a bit the victim of modern > media, hardly any1 remembers the tragic death of Roland Ratzenberger, an > austrian Formula1 driver, who died on the same weekend as Ayrton Senna. For > Senna, a gigantic media rumble had started, Brasil had turned into a unified > funeral, ppl from all over the world pilgrimed to Imola to lay down flowers > at the wall, etc etc., and Roland? He died silently, no1 knew him, no1 > really cared after a month, difference between him and Ayrton was: Do I have > to explain? Now you can imagine the difference between the death of the 2 > pilots and the assumption (sp?), Coulthard would have been killed in that > crash. > > I for my point find it a great gesture from David, running around in > Silverstone grinning and joking, acting as if nothing had happened, while > deep inside of him it surely leaves traces. It's the same attitude I had > (and still have) despite a motorcycle crash I had 14 years ago: Rear tire > busted at about 50 mph, couldn't hold the machine, I walked away unhurt, but > had to watch my early pregnant girlfriend die on the spot as she got run > over by a car. Ok, I didn't grin the same week, didn't grin the same month > or year, but someday I learned that again.......... > > Life's too short to stick yer head in the sand, but sorry again. > > cya > Maaki > > -- > ________________________________ > Check out my home once in a while: > http://www.maaki.de.vu > ........still a lot of work to be done > ________________________________ > >
Shane Lowry 06 May 2000 22:34 UTC#272583
ppl deal with tragedies in different ways. As an aussie Bruce you know that as a group we tend to take the piss out of any situation. I remember after the Challenger disaster the jokes that flowed the next day. I'm not saying that you shouldnt feel something when a tragedy happens, and yes the joke may have been in bad taste, but it happens all over the world. If ppl feel the need to point out that its in bad taste fine. However there was no need IMHO to put the guy down so hard for it. (thats the group ... not you bruce) Shane Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> (snip) > >Do I have to explain? > (unsnip) > > Yes....I think you probably _do_ have to explain, Markus. > As far as I recall nobody made any jokes about Senna's or Ratzenberger's > accidents. Senna's death, and the events that followed it, may have
pushed > Ratzenberger's into the background, but nobody joked about eitherfatality.
Quoted text (13 lines)> > Bad analogy, old mate. Try again. > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Markus Stiepel <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8f085c$er7$[email hidden]... > > Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my little > > annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3
survived, > > but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it > can't, > > considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too freshfor
Quoted text (16 lines)> > some of you guys, I'm sorry. > > > > On the other hand, would we be allowed to make jokes like that after, > let's > > say, 1 year? Reason I ask is that we are all a bit the victim of modern > > media, hardly any1 remembers the tragic death of Roland Ratzenberger, an > > austrian Formula1 driver, who died on the same weekend as Ayrton Senna. > For > > Senna, a gigantic media rumble had started, Brasil had turned into a > unified > > funeral, ppl from all over the world pilgrimed to Imola to lay down > flowers > > at the wall, etc etc., and Roland? He died silently, no1 knew him, no1 > > really cared after a month, difference between him and Ayrton was: Do I > have > > to explain? Now you can imagine the difference between the death of the
2 > > pilots and the assumption (sp?), Coulthard would have been killed inthat > > crash. > > > > I for my point find it a great gesture from David, running around in > > Silverstone grinning and joking, acting as if nothing had happened,while > > deep inside of him it surely leaves traces. It's the same attitude I had > > (and still have) despite a motorcycle crash I had 14 years ago: Reartire > > busted at about 50 mph, couldn't hold the machine, I walked away unhurt, > but > > had to watch my early pregnant girlfriend die on the spot as she got run > > over by a car. Ok, I didn't grin the same week, didn't grin the samemonth
Quoted text (17 lines)> > or year, but someday I learned that again.......... > > > > Life's too short to stick yer head in the sand, but sorry again. > > > > cya > > Maaki > > > > -- > > ________________________________ > > Check out my home once in a while: > > http://www.maaki.de.vu > > ........still a lot of work to be done > > ________________________________ > > > > > >
snakehands 07 May 2000#272196
You sure are the type of guy who has to have the last wor Bruce Kennewell wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (15 lines)>I'm going "on and on about it" becuase I don't usually finish making a >statement whilst in mid-sentence. >However, in your case I'll ma > >snakehands <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:eJh#g3$t$GA.232@cpmsnbbsa03... >> Hi Bruce >> >> What more do you what him to say? Or do you just enjoy hounding people? I >do >> agree with you BTW, in the most part, but I can't see the point in going >on >> and on and on about it > >
snakehands 07 May 2000#272260
Hi Bruce What more do you what him to say? Or do you just enjoy hounding people? I do agree with you BTW, in the most part, but I can't see the point in going on and on and on about it. Cheers Bruce Kennewell wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (10 lines)>You ask if you were you "wise-cracking"? >Yes....of course you were. You made comments that you considered funny, >Markus, about a situation that wasn't. The perfect example of a >"wisecrack". > >Monty Python is certainly tasteless in a lot of instances (the fat guy >exploding in "The Meaning of Life", for example. I recall quite vividly >several Japanese gentlemen getting up and walking out of a sales seminar >when that was shown whilst we were having after-dinner coffee!) but I don't >recall ever seeing, hearing or reading any of their scripts that made fun
of >a recent situation involving fatalities. > >You really just don't get it, do you? > >
I believed "wisecrack" is a person who always knows everything better, correct me if I'm wrong. Concerning Monty Python's, well, they did not use recent situations, rather they were more global. Example: Making fun of disabled is a big thread in their repertoire, I wouldn't be surprised if 90% wouldn't find *that* funny....... Bruce, can we agree on the fact that in my original post I was simply drawing a little sarcastic note concerning Formula One using the word "wings" as the clue-word? With no intention to hurt the feelings of any1? Yes, I *do* get it, but it seems you don't wanna switch viewpoints (or at least try to understand them.......) BTW, I heard that "joke" on a radio-station.....shall we sue them? :)) cya Maaki -- ________________________________ Check out my home once in a while: http://www.maaki.de.vu ........still a lot of work to be done ________________________________ Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: [email hidden]... > You ask if you were you "wise-cracking"? > Yes....of course you were. You made comments that you considered funny, > Markus, about a situation that wasn't. The perfect example of a > "wisecrack". > > Monty Python is certainly tasteless in a lot of instances (the fat guy > exploding in "The Meaning of Life", for example. I recall quite vividly > several Japanese gentlemen getting up and walking out of a sales seminar > when that was shown whilst we were having after-dinner coffee!) but I don't > recall ever seeing, hearing or reading any of their scripts that made fun of > a recent situation involving fatalities. > > You really just don't get it, do you? > >
Bruce Kennewell 07 May 2000 03:36 UTC#272507
As an Aussie I know that I will tend to stir the pot in any situation that I consider worth stirring. (I don't believe that such an attitude is determined by national boundaries, by-the-way; everybody does it to some extent.) But by the same token I will not make callous comments about any situation which I consider to be sensitive and this (the Coulthard situation) is one of them. And this has absolutely nothing to do with how we deal with tragedies in different ways......it's basic decency. I have been involved in "tragedies" enough down the years, both of a personal nature and in those where I was on the fringes. I don't recall anyone, myself included, wisecracking in a distasteful manner in order to cope. To do so shows not only total disregard for the feelings of the friends and relatives of those injured or killed but also displays a complete lack of the most basic manners. I make absolutely no apology for my stance on this. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Shane Lowry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wWPQ4.483$%[email hidden]... > ppl deal with tragedies in different ways. As an aussie Bruce you know that > as a group we tend to take the piss out of any situation. I remember after > the Challenger disaster the jokes that flowed the next day. I'm not saying > that you shouldnt feel something when a tragedy happens, and yes the joke > may have been in bad taste, but it happens all over the world. > > If ppl feel the need to point out that its in bad taste fine. However there > was no need IMHO to put the guy down so hard for it. (thats the group ... > not you bruce) > > Shane > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > (snip) > > >Do I have to explain? > > (unsnip) > > > > Yes....I think you probably _do_ have to explain, Markus. > > As far as I recall nobody made any jokes about Senna's or Ratzenberger's > > accidents. Senna's death, and the events that followed it, may have > pushed > > Ratzenberger's into the background, but nobody joked about either > fatality. > > > > Bad analogy, old mate. Try again. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > Markus Stiepel <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:8f085c$er7$[email hidden]... > > > Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my little > > > annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3 > survived, > > > but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it > > can't, > > > considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too fresh > for > > > some of you guys, I'm sorry. > > > > > > On the other hand, would we be allowed to make jokes like that after, > > let's > > > say, 1 year? Reason I ask is that we are all a bit the victim of modern > > > media, hardly any1 remembers the tragic death of Roland Ratzenberger, an > > > austrian Formula1 driver, who died on the same weekend as Ayrton Senna. > > For > > > Senna, a gigantic media rumble had started, Brasil had turned into a > > unified > > > funeral, ppl from all over the world pilgrimed to Imola to lay down > > flowers > > > at the wall, etc etc., and Roland? He died silently, no1 knew him, no1 > > > really cared after a month, difference between him and Ayrton was: Do I > > have > > > to explain? Now you can imagine the difference between the death of the > 2 > > > pilots and the assumption (sp?), Coulthard would have been killed in > that > > > crash. > > > > > > I for my point find it a great gesture from David, running around in > > > Silverstone grinning and joking, acting as if nothing had happened, > while > > > deep inside of him it surely leaves traces. It's the same attitude I had > > > (and still have) despite a motorcycle crash I had 14 years ago: Rear > tire > > > busted at about 50 mph, couldn't hold the machine, I walked away unhurt, > > but > > > had to watch my early pregnant girlfriend die on the spot as she got run > > > over by a car. Ok, I didn't grin the same week, didn't grin the same > month > > > or year, but someday I learned that again.......... > > > > > > Life's too short to stick yer head in the sand, but sorry again. > > > > > > cya > > > Maaki > > > > > > -- > > > ________________________________ > > > Check out my home once in a while: > > > http://www.maaki.de.vu > > > ........still a lot of work to be done > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > >
Bruce Kennewell 07 May 2000 03:36 UTC#272508
What's a "Drogo"....apart from being a castle in Exeter? -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my little > >annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3 survived, > >but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it can't, > >considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too fresh for > >some of you guys, I'm sorry. > > Don't need to apologise, it just seem that people around here have no > sense of humour at all. > > -- > The Drogo formely known as Poopy Face > [email hidden] > > "Suck & fuck & cook & clean, > baby you know what I mean!"
m.seery 07 May 2000 11:58 UTC#272273
Shane, I think you are right. After sleeping on this thing, I'll say that some of my posts were probably over the top. As a professionally qualified airframe fitter, I guess the knowledge that my direct actions could potentially leave 500 bodies strewn over several miles makes me over sensitive to such things. The fact remains though that the original post was not in the slightest bit funny. MS "Shane Lowry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qh3R4.518$%[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> i see your point MS ... and agree. just trying to add some other points of > view. I personally didnt feel it very humorous. However i did feel the > responses were a bit harsh. > > Shane > > > m.seery <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:U1%Q4.748$[email hidden]... > > Shane. > > > > The difference is mate, that this is no private funeral or gathering
where
Quoted text (15 lines)> > mates know each other intimately. It is a worldwide public forum, where > > absolutely anybody can walk in. As I said in a previous post, a relative > of > > one of those dead pilots lives a few streets down from me. What if that > guy > > was the brother of one of the correspondants in here? > > > > Taking your analogy further, If you was burying a member of your family > and > > a stranger walked into the boneyard and started making wisecracks whilst > the > > women were weeping over the grave......OK I'm taking it to extremes here > > but............... > > > > As well of your famed and legendary humour, I hear you Aussies can get
a
Quoted text (12 lines)> > bit punch happy from time to time as well.. > > > > MS > > "Shane Lowry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:wWPQ4.483$%[email hidden]... > > > ppl deal with tragedies in different ways. As an aussie Bruce you know > > that > > > as a group we tend to take the piss out of any situation > > > > > >
Fine if you're into eating Kenyan moths. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- > >[link lost in import] > Hey Bruce, this one is not bad either :-)) > [link lost in import] > -- > The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face > "Suck & *** & cook & clean, > baby you know what I mean!"
Bruce Kennewell 07 May 2000 13:45 UTC#272381
You ask if you were you "wise-cracking"? Yes....of course you were. You made comments that you considered funny, Markus, about a situation that wasn't. The perfect example of a "wisecrack". Monty Python is certainly tasteless in a lot of instances (the fat guy exploding in "The Meaning of Life", for example. I recall quite vividly several Japanese gentlemen getting up and walking out of a sales seminar when that was shown whilst we were having after-dinner coffee!) but I don't recall ever seeing, hearing or reading any of their scripts that made fun of a recent situation involving fatalities. You really just don't get it, do you?
Bruce Kennewell 07 May 2000 13:53 UTC#272384
http://www.anu.edu.au/ANDC/Austwords/drongo -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Le Sat, 6 May 2000 22:40:24 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" > <[email hidden]> a �crit: > > >What's a "Drogo"....apart from being a castle in Exeter? > > LOL > > Big typo here. > I meant a Drongo, perhaps you need me to tell you what it is ;-) > > -- > The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face > [email hidden] > > "Suck & fuck & cook & clean, > baby you know what I mean!"
Shane Lowry 07 May 2000 16:03 UTC#272307
i see your point MS ... and agree. just trying to add some other points of view. I personally didnt feel it very humorous. However i did feel the responses were a bit harsh. Shane m.seery <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:U1%Q4.748$[email hidden]... > Shane. > > The difference is mate, that this is no private funeral or gathering where > mates know each other intimately. It is a worldwide public forum, where > absolutely anybody can walk in. As I said in a previous post, a relativeof > one of those dead pilots lives a few streets down from me. What if thatguy > was the brother of one of the correspondants in here? > > Taking your analogy further, If you was burying a member of your familyand > a stranger walked into the boneyard and started making wisecracks whilstthe
Quoted text (14 lines)> women were weeping over the grave......OK I'm taking it to extremes here > but............... > > As well of your famed and legendary humour, I hear you Aussies can get a > bit punch happy from time to time as well.. > > MS > "Shane Lowry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:wWPQ4.483$%[email hidden]... > > ppl deal with tragedies in different ways. As an aussie Bruce you know > that > > as a group we tend to take the piss out of any situation > >
Todd Sorensen 07 May 2000 20:02 UTC#272170
My favorite Python routine was the twit Olympics. Twits gad to do things like jump over matchboxes and the like. Of course, you have to have a sense of humor to enjoy stuff like that. Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> You ask if you were you "wise-cracking"? > Yes....of course you were. You made comments that you considered funny, > Markus, about a situation that wasn't. The perfect example of a > "wisecrack". > > Monty Python is certainly tasteless in a lot of instances (the fat guy > exploding in "The Meaning of Life", for example. I recall quite vividly > several Japanese gentlemen getting up and walking out of a sales seminar > when that was shown whilst we were having after-dinner coffee!) but I
don't > recall ever seeing, hearing or reading any of their scripts that made funof > a recent situation involving fatalities. > > You really just don't get it, do you? > >
Todd Sorensen 07 May 2000 20:03 UTC#272171
Man you sure are insensitive to criticize people here. Please stop, you meanie! Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > That's "smart-arse" (Australian and English version) or "wise-ass" > (American). > Not really related to a "wisecrack", although a smart-arse could certainly > make a wisecrack. > > As far as sueing anyone is concerned, that's up to you....assuming thatthe > station was German, of course. > > Insofar as Monty Python sketches about the disabled being a "big thread",I > really can't say.....the only one that comes readily to mind is the knight > in "Search for the Holy Grail", although I'm sure that there were other > examples. > > We can agree that in your original post that you were being sarcasticabout > wings in Formula One, certainly. It won't, however, change my opinionthat > you were being insensitive in what you wrote. And it's not that I either > don't want to switch viewpoints or try to understand them. From where Isit
Quoted text (15 lines)> there isn't any alternative viewpoint. > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Markus Stiepel <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8f3f12$k6t$[email hidden]... > > I believed "wisecrack" is a person who always knows everything better, > > correct me if I'm wrong. > > > > Concerning Monty Python's, well, they did not use recent situations, > rather > > they were more global. Example: Making fun of disabled is a big thread
in > > their repertoire, I wouldn't be surprised if 90% wouldn't find *that* > > funny....... > > > > Bruce, can we agree on the fact that in my original post I was simply > > drawing a little sarcastic note concerning Formula One using the word > > "wings" as the clue-word? With no intention to hurt the feelings ofany1? > > Yes, I *do* get it, but it seems you don't wanna switch viewpoints (orat
Quoted text (16 lines)> > least try to understand them.......) > > > > BTW, I heard that "joke" on a radio-station.....shall we sue them? :)) > > cya > > Maaki > > > > -- > > ________________________________ > > Check out my home once in a while: > > http://www.maaki.de.vu > > ........still a lot of work to be done > > ________________________________ > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: > > [email hidden]... > > > You ask if you were you "wise-cracking"? > > > Yes....of course you were. You made comments that you considered
funny, > > > Markus, about a situation that wasn't. The perfect example of a > > > "wisecrack". > > > > > > Monty Python is certainly tasteless in a lot of instances (the fat guy > > > exploding in "The Meaning of Life", for example. I recall quitevividly > > > several Japanese gentlemen getting up and walking out of a salesseminar
Quoted text (14 lines)> > > when that was shown whilst we were having after-dinner coffee!) but I > > don't > > > recall ever seeing, hearing or reading any of their scripts that made > fun > > of > > > a recent situation involving fatalities. > > > > > > You really just don't get it, do you? > > > > > > > > > > > >
On Sat, 6 May 2000 06:45:26 +0200, "Markus Stiepel" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Well folks, I was thinking for quite some time before posting my little >annecdote (sp?) about a plane-crash in which 2 people died and 3 survived, >but then, I decided, this newsgroup can take it. As it turns out, it can't, >considering the bashing I get now. Maybe the wound is still too fresh for >some of you guys, I'm sorry. No need for apologies Markus, some people just have a sense of humour failure or can't accept that people have the right to say whatever they like. Of course you in turn also have to accept that others will also say what they like in response, but it's not a reason to apologise. No amount of claiming the moral high ground will change what happened. John
........and the contest "Wake up the neighbors" ......hilarious! :)) Finally, he shoots himself after missing the tied up rabbit several times! Mean, mean, mean, yup, you really either love it or turn away in disgust! cya Maaki -- ________________________________ Check out my home once in a while: http://www.maaki.de.vu ........still a lot of work to be done ________________________________ Todd Sorensen <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 2ZjR4.80758$[email hidden]... > My favorite Python routine was the twit Olympics. Twits gad to do things > like jump over matchboxes and the like. Of course, you have to have a sense > of humor to enjoy stuff like that.
Bruce Kennewell 08 May 2000 02:53 UTC#272285
I'm going "on and on about it" becuase I don't usually finish making a statement whilst in mid-sentence. However, in your case I'll ma snakehands <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:eJh#g3$t$GA.232@cpmsnbbsa03... > Hi Bruce > > What more do you what him to say? Or do you just enjoy hounding people? Ido > agree with you BTW, in the most part, but I can't see the point in goingon > and on and on about it
Bruce Kennewell 08 May 2000 03:04 UTC#272189
That's "smart-arse" (Australian and English version) or "wise-ass" (American). Not really related to a "wisecrack", although a smart-arse could certainly make a wisecrack. As far as sueing anyone is concerned, that's up to you....assuming that the station was German, of course. Insofar as Monty Python sketches about the disabled being a "big thread", I really can't say.....the only one that comes readily to mind is the knight in "Search for the Holy Grail", although I'm sure that there were other examples. We can agree that in your original post that you were being sarcastic about wings in Formula One, certainly. It won't, however, change my opinion that you were being insensitive in what you wrote. And it's not that I either don't want to switch viewpoints or try to understand them. From where I sit there isn't any alternative viewpoint. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Markus Stiepel <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8f3f12$k6t$[email hidden]... > I believed "wisecrack" is a person who always knows everything better, > correct me if I'm wrong. > > Concerning Monty Python's, well, they did not use recent situations, rather > they were more global. Example: Making fun of disabled is a big thread in > their repertoire, I wouldn't be surprised if 90% wouldn't find *that* > funny....... > > Bruce, can we agree on the fact that in my original post I was simply > drawing a little sarcastic note concerning Formula One using the word > "wings" as the clue-word? With no intention to hurt the feelings of any1? > Yes, I *do* get it, but it seems you don't wanna switch viewpoints (or at > least try to understand them.......) > > BTW, I heard that "joke" on a radio-station.....shall we sue them? :)) > cya > Maaki > > -- > ________________________________ > Check out my home once in a while: > http://www.maaki.de.vu > ........still a lot of work to be done > ________________________________ > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: > [email hidden]... > > You ask if you were you "wise-cracking"? > > Yes....of course you were. You made comments that you considered funny, > > Markus, about a situation that wasn't. The perfect example of a > > "wisecrack". > > > > Monty Python is certainly tasteless in a lot of instances (the fat guy > > exploding in "The Meaning of Life", for example. I recall quite vividly > > several Japanese gentlemen getting up and walking out of a sales seminar > > when that was shown whilst we were having after-dinner coffee!) but I > don't > > recall ever seeing, hearing or reading any of their scripts that made fun > of > > a recent situation involving fatalities. > > > > You really just don't get it, do you? > > > > > >
Bruce Kennewell 08 May 2000 03:15 UTC#272191
Fine if you're into eating Kenyan moths. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >http://www.anu.edu.au/ANDC/Austwords/drongo > > Hey Bruce, this one is not bad either :-)) > > http://www.kenyabirds.org.uk/drongo.htm > > -- > The Drongo formely known as Poopy Face > [email hidden] > > "Suck & fuck & cook & clean, > baby you know what I mean!"
Bruce Kennewell 08 May 2000 12:44 UTC#272049
Of course. But "senses of humour" are like one's idea of beauty....they are to individual tastes. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Todd Sorensen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2ZjR4.80758$[email hidden]... > My favorite Python routine was the twit Olympics. Twits gad to do things > like jump over matchboxes and the like. Of course, you have to have a sense > of humor to enjoy stuff like that.
Andre Warringa 08 May 2000 14:40 UTC#271988
On Sun, 07 May 2000 20:02:06 GMT, "Todd Sorensen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >My favorite Python routine was the twit Olympics. Twits gad to do things >like jump over matchboxes and the like. Of course, you have to have a sense >of humor to enjoy stuff like that. Well, perhaps they too went a little bit too far with the last challenge of the tournament, were they had to shoot themselves... Thankfully they missed :) Andre
Andre Warringa 08 May 2000 14:42 UTC#271989
Oh yeah, that was how it went. My memory was a bit mixed up, I should replay those Python tapes to refresh my memory! Andre On Mon, 8 May 2000 08:15:06 +0200, "Markus Stiepel" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (22 lines)>........and the contest "Wake up the neighbors" ......hilarious! :)) >Finally, he shoots himself after missing the tied up rabbit several times! >Mean, mean, mean, yup, you really either love it or turn away in disgust! > >cya >Maaki > >-- >________________________________ >Check out my home once in a while: >http://www.maaki.de.vu >........still a lot of work to be done >________________________________ >Todd Sorensen <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: >2ZjR4.80758$[email hidden]... >> My favorite Python routine was the twit Olympics. Twits gad to do things >> like jump over matchboxes and the like. Of course, you have to have a >sense >> of humor to enjoy stuff like that. > > >
snakehands 09 May 2000#271608
Hi John How very refreshing :0).
Quoted text (9 lines)>No need for apologies Markus, some people just have a sense of humour >failure or can't accept that people have the right to say whatever >they like. Of course you in turn also have to accept that others will >also say what they like in response, but it's not a reason to >apologise. > >No amount of claiming the moral high ground will change what happened. > >John

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