OT: Buying a new car, opinions on the following?

I'm in the market for a new car and have narrowed my choices down to four, but am having a hell of a time deciding between them. I've done lots of background reading and research but I'm looking for some more feedback. Opinions please on the following cars, particularly by those who have owned them. Stories, good or bad, things to watch out for, etc. All cars are in good shape, have had them checked over by a reputable mechanic, no accidents, all stock with no mods. Test driven them all, liked them all for different reasons. All prices in Canadian dollars (roughly multipy by 2/3 to get a very approximate $US). At the moment, I'm leaning towards the Impreza, but nothing concrete. 1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K 1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K 1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K 1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K S.

And it's a great rally car too :) Michael Basden <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> If you are looking to make some upgrades in the future, I don't think you > could go wrong with the Subaru. They are very popular for aftermarket > add-ons. Add a supercharger and some other smaller modifications you can > get those puppies up past 400HP! But besides that, with the AWD system, > it's a fantastic car! Damn near bullet-proof reliability too. For me, > the look leaves something to be desired, but it's a personal preference. > > Mike > P.S. I bought my car because it was a hell of a lot of fun to drive, > looked pretty sharp, and got a big-ass discount thanks to a family member! > > ******************** > '00 Mustang GT > Black on Black leather > ******************** > > "Brett C. Cammack" wrote: > > > On Thu, 4 May 2000 19:19:01 -0700, "Steven Dickson" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K > > >1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K > > >1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K > > >1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K > > > > Best value would appear to be the Acura. The 300ZX will kill you with > > the cost of parts and repairs when necessary. Call around to the > > various dealers and/or parts houses and ask 'em what a new alternator, > > A/C compressor and fuel injector costs. I was thinking about a Mazda > > RX-7 untill I did that... (an we race one, but $1200.00 for a new A/C > > compressor? Forget it!) > > > > Regards, > > Brett C. Cammack > > That's Racing! Motorsports > > Pompano Beach, FL >

If you are looking to make some upgrades in the future, I don't think you could go wrong with the Subaru. They are very popular for aftermarket add-ons. Add a supercharger and some other smaller modifications you can get those puppies up past 400HP! But besides that, with the AWD system, it's a fantastic car! Damn near bullet-proof reliability too. For me, the look leaves something to be desired, but it's a personal preference. Mike P.S. I bought my car because it was a hell of a lot of fun to drive, looked pretty sharp, and got a big-ass discount thanks to a family member! ******************** '00 Mustang GT Black on Black leather ******************** "Brett C. Cammack" wrote:

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> On Thu, 4 May 2000 19:19:01 -0700, "Steven Dickson" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K > >1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K > >1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K > >1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K > > Best value would appear to be the Acura. The 300ZX will kill you with > the cost of parts and repairs when necessary. Call around to the > various dealers and/or parts houses and ask 'em what a new alternator, > A/C compressor and fuel injector costs. I was thinking about a Mazda > RX-7 untill I did that... (an we race one, but $1200.00 for a new A/C > compressor? Forget it!) > > Regards, > Brett C. Cammack > That's Racing! Motorsports > Pompano Beach, FL

If I were looking now, I'd throw in another car ... The 99 Mustang GT is an awesome car. Had a '92 convertible b4 and it's amazing how much better this one is from the seats to the stereo to the design, it's great. If you could find one of these for a good price, you would not be disappointed. Otherwise from your list, I would say the Accura ... "Steven Dickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:p9qQ4.23159$[email hidden]... > > I'm in the market for a new car and have narrowed my choices down to four, > but am having a hell of a time deciding between them. I've done lots of > background reading and research but I'm looking for some more feedback. > Opinions please on the following cars, particularly by those who haveowned > them. Stories, good or bad, things to watch out for, etc. > > All cars are in good shape, have had them checked over by a reputable > mechanic, no accidents, all stock with no mods. Test driven them all,liked

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> them all for different reasons. All prices in Canadian dollars (roughly > multipy by 2/3 to get a very approximate $US). At the moment, I'm leaning > towards the Impreza, but nothing concrete. > > 1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K > 1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K > 1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K > 1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K > > S. > > > >

Wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning Bruce? ;) What I do when it comes to making a major expense is to get as much information as I can, from as many disparate sources as I can, digest it, and then and only then come to a final decision. Nowhere did I ask anyone to make a decision for me. I didn't ask "Which of these cars should I buy?" I'm just looking for feedback, preferably from first hand experience, re: the pros and cons of each of the cars listed. Since the focus of this newsgroup is cars, and since I read this newsgroup regularly and have a rough idea of who the posters are, I thought this would be an appropriate place to ask. Are the letters submitted to the various special interest or owner's sites any more or less valid? *shrug* Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I cannot believe that you cannot make a decision on this yourself. > You have stated that you've driven them, have had them checked, have readup > on their good and bad points and yet you _still_ cannot arrive at a > decision! > > What is it that you are looking for....someone else to take the blame ifyou

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> end up not liking the car? > What on earth do you do when it comes to other decision-making situations > regarding major expense? > > Heavens above........you've got all the input....now decide! Even if it's > only on which colour you prefer, make the decision yourself, man! > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Steven Dickson <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:p9qQ4.23159$[email hidden]... > > > > I'm in the market for a new car and have narrowed my choices down to

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> > but am having a hell of a time deciding between them. I've done lots of > > background reading and research but I'm looking for some more feedback. > > Opinions please on the following cars, particularly by those who have > owned > > them. Stories, good or bad, things to watch out for, etc. > > > > All cars are in good shape, have had them checked over by a reputable > > mechanic, no accidents, all stock with no mods. Test driven them all, > liked > > them all for different reasons. All prices in Canadian dollars (roughly > > multipy by 2/3 to get a very approximate $US). At the moment, I'm

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> > towards the Impreza, but nothing concrete. > > > > 1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K > > 1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K > > 1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K > > 1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K > > > > S. > > > > > > > > > >

On Fri 05 May 2000 03:19:01am, Steven Dickson wrote: >1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K >1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K >1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K >1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K FWIW, here in the UK Subaru consistently top the JD Power table. The Impreza loses points for poor fuel economy, but is pretty much flawless elsewhere. The dealers have a good reputation too. -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

I'm in the market for a new car and have narrowed my choices down to four, but am having a hell of a time deciding between them. I've done lots of background reading and research but I'm looking for some more feedback. Opinions please on the following cars, particularly by those who have owned them. Stories, good or bad, things to watch out for, etc. All cars are in good shape, have had them checked over by a reputable mechanic, no accidents, all stock with no mods. Test driven them all, liked them all for different reasons. All prices in Canadian dollars (roughly multipy by 2/3 to get a very approximate $US). At the moment, I'm leaning towards the Impreza, but nothing concrete. 1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K 1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K 1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K 1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K S.

I have one of the few 2.5 RS's in my town...constantly getting looks at it from others. Clutch engagement is VERY tight and economy isn't the greatest...but if you have any sort of inclement weather, the AWD and limited slip rear diff will make you a believer. dave henrie David Buttery wrote:

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> > On Fri 05 May 2000 03:19:01am, Steven Dickson wrote: > > >1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K > >1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K > >1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K > >1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K > > FWIW, here in the UK Subaru consistently top the JD Power table. The > Impreza loses points for poor fuel economy, but is pretty much flawless > elsewhere. The dealers have a good reputation too. > > -- > David. > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > really." > (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Go for the Subaru, although the Acura has got the looks if you live in a very favourable climate. Don't even consider the Nissan. Jan. =--- Steven Dickson wrote...

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> > <Snip> > 1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K > 1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K > 1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K > 1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K > > S. > > > >

I'm a Honda freak but the Intergra looks a little too much like a toy to me. I'm hoping to find a good Impreza GT-Turbo in the next months but they are hard to find in Belgium. If I where you I would certainly go for the Impreza. Steven Dickson <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws p9qQ4.23159$[email hidden]... > > I'm in the market for a new car and have narrowed my choices down to four, > but am having a hell of a time deciding between them. I've done lots of > background reading and research but I'm looking for some more feedback. > Opinions please on the following cars, particularly by those who haveowned > them. Stories, good or bad, things to watch out for, etc. > > All cars are in good shape, have had them checked over by a reputable > mechanic, no accidents, all stock with no mods. Test driven them all,liked

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> them all for different reasons. All prices in Canadian dollars (roughly > multipy by 2/3 to get a very approximate $US). At the moment, I'm leaning > towards the Impreza, but nothing concrete. > > 1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K > 1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K > 1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K > 1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K > > S. > > > >

As you blokes say, no worries Bruce ;) S.

Whoa . . . bit over-the-top there, Bruce. What's wrong with asking for input from a (possibly) knowledgeable crowd? The fellow asks for "[s]tories, good or bad, things to watch out for, etc." . . . Although some might question the relevancy of the query to this particular newsgroup community, I'd say one of the good things *about* community, broadly speaking, is the variety of opinions one might get--some of which may even be helpful. --DK "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I cannot believe that you cannot make a decision on this yourself. > You have stated that you've driven them, have had them checked, have readup > on their good and bad points and yet you _still_ cannot arrive at a > decision! > > What is it that you are looking for....someone else to take the blame ifyou

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> end up not liking the car? > What on earth do you do when it comes to other decision-making situations > regarding major expense? > > Heavens above........you've got all the input....now decide! Even if it's > only on which colour you prefer, make the decision yourself, man! > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > ---------------------------

On Thu, 4 May 2000 19:19:01 -0700, "Steven Dickson" <[email hidden]> wrote: >1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K >1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K >1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K >1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K Best value would appear to be the Acura. The 300ZX will kill you with the cost of parts and repairs when necessary. Call around to the various dealers and/or parts houses and ask 'em what a new alternator, A/C compressor and fuel injector costs. I was thinking about a Mazda RX-7 untill I did that... (an we race one, but $1200.00 for a new A/C compressor? Forget it!) Regards, Brett C. Cammack That's Racing! Motorsports Pompano Beach, FL

I'm surprised that nobody has said to go for the Toyota. Based on price and reliability, I'd would have figured it as one of the top choices. I'd figure the Nissan at the bottom of the list. The other 3 all being good cars, it would be a personal decision based on whether you are most interested in style, performance or reliability. So, what sim do you plan on driving it in? Will it install without errors? Does it come with a female navigator? -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "Steven Dickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:p9qQ4.23159$[email hidden]... > > I'm in the market for a new car and have narrowed my choices down to four, > but am having a hell of a time deciding between them. I've done lots of > background reading and research but I'm looking for some more feedback. > Opinions please on the following cars, particularly by those who have owned > them. Stories, good or bad, things to watch out for, etc. > > All cars are in good shape, have had them checked over by a reputable > mechanic, no accidents, all stock with no mods. Test driven them all, liked > them all for different reasons. All prices in Canadian dollars (roughly > multipy by 2/3 to get a very approximate $US). At the moment, I'm leaning > towards the Impreza, but nothing concrete. > > 1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K > 1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K > 1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K > 1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K > > S. > > > >

I cannot believe that you cannot make a decision on this yourself. You have stated that you've driven them, have had them checked, have read up on their good and bad points and yet you _still_ cannot arrive at a decision! What is it that you are looking for....someone else to take the blame if you end up not liking the car? What on earth do you do when it comes to other decision-making situations regarding major expense? Heavens above........you've got all the input....now decide! Even if it's only on which colour you prefer, make the decision yourself, man! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Steven Dickson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:p9qQ4.23159$[email hidden]... > > I'm in the market for a new car and have narrowed my choices down to four, > but am having a hell of a time deciding between them. I've done lots of > background reading and research but I'm looking for some more feedback. > Opinions please on the following cars, particularly by those who have owned > them. Stories, good or bad, things to watch out for, etc. > > All cars are in good shape, have had them checked over by a reputable > mechanic, no accidents, all stock with no mods. Test driven them all, liked > them all for different reasons. All prices in Canadian dollars (roughly > multipy by 2/3 to get a very approximate $US). At the moment, I'm leaning > towards the Impreza, but nothing concrete. > > 1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K > 1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K > 1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K > 1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K > > S. > > > >

Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Sorry, Steven, my reaction (as stated elsewhere) was over-the-top. > My apologies for the way in which I responded. > As you blokes say, no worries Bruce ;) S.

Personally, I forego all the cars listed for a nice early 60's Alfa. Why peeps favor new cars when such character can be had for less money (tho' for more work)--that's my pet peev. Steven! Reconsider! =:^{> --DK "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Yes...I readily admit that the way in which penned my reaction was rather > heavy. Sorry about that. > However, I still find it difficult to come to grips with the fact that a > mature adult (which I assume the chap is) cannot decide which car to buyfor

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> himself. Even if the decison comes down to the colour, or mpg, or power > difference, or warranty or whatever. Amazing! > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > David Karr <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8eugu3$ll7$[email hidden]... > > Whoa . . . bit over-the-top there, Bruce. What's wrong with asking for > > input from a (possibly) knowledgeable crowd? The fellow asks for > > "[s]tories, good or bad, things to watch out for, etc." . . . Although > some > > might question the relevancy of the query to this particular newsgroup > > community, I'd say one of the good things *about* community, broadly > > speaking, is the variety of opinions one might get--some of which may

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> > be helpful. > > > > --DK > > > > > > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I cannot believe that you cannot make a decision on this yourself. > > > You have stated that you've driven them, have had them checked, have > read > > up > > > on their good and bad points and yet you _still_ cannot arrive at a > > > decision! > > > > > > What is it that you are looking for....someone else to take the blame

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> > you > > > end up not liking the car? > > > What on earth do you do when it comes to other decision-making > situations > > > regarding major expense? > > > > > > Heavens above........you've got all the input....now decide! Even if > it's > > > only on which colour you prefer, make the decision yourself, man! > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Bruce Kennewell, > > > Canberra, Australia. > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > >

Yes...I readily admit that the way in which penned my reaction was rather heavy. Sorry about that. However, I still find it difficult to come to grips with the fact that a mature adult (which I assume the chap is) cannot decide which car to buy for himself. Even if the decison comes down to the colour, or mpg, or power difference, or warranty or whatever. Amazing! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- David Karr <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8eugu3$ll7$[email hidden]... > Whoa . . . bit over-the-top there, Bruce. What's wrong with asking for > input from a (possibly) knowledgeable crowd? The fellow asks for > "[s]tories, good or bad, things to watch out for, etc." . . . Although some > might question the relevancy of the query to this particular newsgroup > community, I'd say one of the good things *about* community, broadly > speaking, is the variety of opinions one might get--some of which may even > be helpful. > > --DK > > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I cannot believe that you cannot make a decision on this yourself. > > You have stated that you've driven them, have had them checked, have read > up > > on their good and bad points and yet you _still_ cannot arrive at a > > decision! > > > > What is it that you are looking for....someone else to take the blame if > you > > end up not liking the car? > > What on earth do you do when it comes to other decision-making situations > > regarding major expense? > > > > Heavens above........you've got all the input....now decide! Even if it's > > only on which colour you prefer, make the decision yourself, man! > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > >

Sorry, Steven, my reaction (as stated elsewhere) was over-the-top. My apologies for the way in which I responded. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Steven Dickson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8eurgi$9out1$[email hidden]... > Wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning Bruce? ;) > > What I do when it comes to making a major expense is to get as much > information as I can, from as many disparate sources as I can, digest it, > and then and only then come to a final decision. > > Nowhere did I ask anyone to make a decision for me. I didn't ask "Which of > these cars should I buy?" I'm just looking for feedback, preferably from > first hand experience, re: the pros and cons of each of the cars listed. > Since the focus of this newsgroup is cars, and since I read this newsgroup > regularly and have a rough idea of who the posters are, I thought this would > be an appropriate place to ask. Are the letters submitted to the various > special interest or owner's sites any more or less valid? > > *shrug* > > > > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I cannot believe that you cannot make a decision on this yourself. > > You have stated that you've driven them, have had them checked, have read > up > > on their good and bad points and yet you _still_ cannot arrive at a > > decision! > > > > What is it that you are looking for....someone else to take the blame if > you > > end up not liking the car? > > What on earth do you do when it comes to other decision-making situations > > regarding major expense? > > > > Heavens above........you've got all the input....now decide! Even if it's > > only on which colour you prefer, make the decision yourself, man! > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > Steven Dickson <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:p9qQ4.23159$[email hidden]... > > > > > > I'm in the market for a new car and have narrowed my choices down to > four, > > > but am having a hell of a time deciding between them. I've done lots of > > > background reading and research but I'm looking for some more feedback. > > > Opinions please on the following cars, particularly by those who have > > owned > > > them. Stories, good or bad, things to watch out for, etc. > > > > > > All cars are in good shape, have had them checked over by a reputable > > > mechanic, no accidents, all stock with no mods. Test driven them all, > > liked > > > them all for different reasons. All prices in Canadian dollars (roughly > > > multipy by 2/3 to get a very approximate $US). At the moment, I'm > leaning > > > towards the Impreza, but nothing concrete. > > > > > > 1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K > > > 1998 Acura Integra LS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $17K > > > 1996 Toyota Celica GTS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $16K > > > 1990 Nissan 300 ZX (non turbo), 5 speed. $16K > > > > > > S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Heck, I wasn't going to respond, but someone's gotta stick up for the Z! I've got a '96 Z (2nd owner) and love it. IMO there's not much out there that's got it's style.

Let's see, that Impreza $20K CDN, which converts to what, around $13- $14K US? If I had that kind of money, I'd be looking around at used 4th generation Camaro Z28's...you could probably get a nice '95 or '96 model for that price. Not necessarily the most reliable, the most well- made, the smoothest, best on wet roads, and definitely not economical, but they're FAST. Simply FAST. Only one of those cars that could even think of hanging with a Z28 would be that Impreza, and only because of the AWD, so you can launch harder and better on low-traction surfaces. It'd be smoke in the rearview after about a hundred feet though. No real reason to buy one aside from the fun factor and the speed - they pretty much suck for anything else (back seat is small, economy is generally average except for 6-speed models on the freeway, 25 MPG!) but who cares when the only stock cars that can beat you are things like Porsches, Vettes, Vipers, and modified Mustangs, older F-bodies, and heavily modified imports like the Civic, Integra, Impreza, etc... Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

[email hidden] wrote: [Camaro Z28] > but who cares when the only stock cars that can beat you are things > like Porsches, Vettes, Vipers, and modified Mustangs, older F-bodies, > and heavily modified imports like the Civic, Integra, Impreza, etc... Yeah, IN A STRAIGHT LINE. Judging from what the original choices were, the original poster wants something that can actually make a corner. -- Anssi

> I was thinking about a Mazda > RX-7 untill I did that... (an we race one, but $1200.00 for a new A/C > compressor? Forget it!) > The key difference is that the Mazda will never, ever, need a new A/C compressor - the components they use are incredibly high quality. BTW - Why would a race car require an Air Conditioning compressor? (I apologise in advance if A/C stands fro something other then "Air Conditioning".) -- Steven Crook-Dawkins - Research Assistant - University of York.

On Tue, 09 May 2000 14:10:43 +0100, Steven Crook-Dawkins <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > >> I was thinking about a Mazda >> RX-7 untill I did that... (an we race one, but $1200.00 for a new A/C >> compressor? Forget it!) >> > >The key difference is that the Mazda will never, ever, need a new >A/C compressor - the components they use are incredibly high >quality. > >BTW - Why would a race car require an Air >Conditioning compressor? (I apologise in advance if A/C stands >fro something other then "Air Conditioning".)

I was looking for a nice, sporty, affordable car for my wife to drive. The logic was, "Well, considering we have all these connections in the Mazda racing community, we probably ought to look into an old RX-7. We could probably get a terrific deal on one with some minor problem and fix it cheaply." I don't discount that most componentry is of high quality, but I'm talking about a 15+ year old sports car here and, believe it or not, they get used and abused and important stuff wears out. Everything eventually wears out, no matter how high the quality. One thing about S. Florida. If a car doesn't have functioning A/C, it's not worth *anything* for resale. Regards, Brett C. Cammack That's Racing! Motorsports Pompano Beach, FL

Don't be stupid, get the Subaru. Steve

On Thu, 4 May 2000 19:19:01 -0700, "Steven Dickson" <[email hidden]> wrote: >1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, 5 speed, fully loaded. $20K Impreza without a doubt. The Integra is also pretty nice, but utterly outclasses (in driving terms) by the Impreza. The Subaru also benefits from good build, reliability etc. I found it to be a bit "plasticky" which I could have lived without, but a joyous four hour drive up to the highlands of Scotland demonstrated it's benefits. Here the main roads are two lane (one each way), so overtaking endless trucks, caravans and pensioners is mandatory. The Subaru was awesome in that regard, pulling strongly in any gear. Once in the highlands the roads are tight, twisty and bumpy, and again the power delivery, handling and roadholding were exceptional. I'd definitely go for another. Cheers! John

Easy way to make corners...stomp the gas and hold the wheel where you hope to go =) Integras and AWD Eclipses I can see outhandling an F-body, but in stock form both are so underpowered compared to a Z28 it's not even funny or worth trying, and the day that showroom-stock Civics can beat showroom-stock Camaros I will kill myself. IMO, almost all Japanese cars SUCK. They have NO personality, not to mention a nice little thing called low-end torque that comes from displacement and only displacement. There are a few that are cool, like turbo 300ZX's, RX7s, NSX's (man! lotta Xs!!!), and those Imprezas they run in the rallies, but the vast majority of them are just lame. And the day that Vipers, Vettes, and 911s get down into the F-Body price range, I will buy one =) There simply isn't a faster stock car in that price range in any way, shape, or form. Normally more speed equals more money but in the case of the Camaro is more speed for not much more money. -- Kirk Lane [email hidden] [email hidden] ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "Yeah you won't find me I'm going MIA Tonight I'm leaving Going MIA Getting lost in you again Is better than being known" -Foo Fighters, "MIA" Anssi Lehtinen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > [email hidden] wrote: > [Camaro Z28] > > > but who cares when the only stock cars that can beat you are things > > like Porsches, Vettes, Vipers, and modified Mustangs, older F-bodies, > > and heavily modified imports like the Civic, Integra, Impreza, etc... > > Yeah, IN A STRAIGHT LINE. Judging from what the original choices were, > the original poster wants something that can actually make a corner. > > -- > Anssi

Don't be stupid, get the Subaru. Steve