The Pants Ring Motor Bowl Test Track is released

It's only a bit of fun, so don't complain ! http://www.gpl.netti.nu/ Phil of the GPLEAMGD

That would be 9:51, and I'm changing it to 9.40 >Same as my best at Nurburgring;-) >>Lots of Fun, I'm down to 9.51 !! -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

It's only a bit of fun, so don't complain ! http://www.gpl.netti.nu/ Phil of the GPLEAMGD

Good f*cken job!!! This may be the coolest thing released in the world of GPL. VROC anyone? :) Phil Flack wrote:

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> > It's only a bit of fun, so don't complain ! > > http://www.gpl.netti.nu/ > > Phil > of the GPLEAMGD

Lots of Fun, I'm down to 9.51 !! -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

Same as my best at Nurburgring;-) In article <8F1E9AACCdscurlock@news>, [email hidden] (Don Scurlock) wrote:

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>Lots of Fun, I'm down to 9.51 !! > > >-- >Don Scurlock >Vancouver,B.C. > >

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That would be 9:51, and I'm changing it to 9.40 [email hidden] (Chris Bloom) wrote in <[email hidden]>: >Same as my best at Nurburgring;-) > >In article <8F1E9AACCdscurlock@news>, [email hidden] >(Don Scurlock) wrote: >>Lots of Fun, I'm down to 9.51 !! -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

Crikey!! A wall of death!! You can even race in the sky:) I keep bottoming out though when I build up speed which causes a major loss of control. I have set everything as hard as possible and it's still scraping the tarmac. Anyway thanks for the track! How many turns does it have?? (Sarcasm aimed at North American Ovals who manage to make four turns out of an Oval with only two definable turns yet ignore the fact that the start finish straight is a curve!) Chris * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

> Anyway thanks for the track! How many turns does it have?? > (Sarcasm aimed at North American Ovals who manage to make four > turns out of an Oval with only two definable turns yet ignore > the fact that the start finish straight is a curve!) I don't want to defend oval racing (I hate it), but having a single turn containing two separate corners can also be found in GPL. Check out turns 1 in both Kylami and Mexico. I would describe both as "compound" corners. The same can be said of oval racing. Oval race tracks may not be your cup of tea, but your argument here doesn't hold much water. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

> It's only a bit of fun, so don't complain ! And a lot of fun it is too! Nice idea. Andrew McP

A true masterpiece And even I can win there!!!!!!! Now I�ll head back for a full GP BR Thomas "Phil Flack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> It's only a bit of fun, so don't complain ! > > http://www.gpl.netti.nu/ > > > Phil > of the GPLEAMGD

When I race at the upper part of the track, my car crashes BIG TIME... I raised the car to 5" but still crash... Big fun however! A little taste of how the Monza banking will be? Andre On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:12:35 GMT, Shaun Robinson <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Good f*cken job!!! This may be the coolest thing released in the world >of GPL. >VROC anyone? :) > >Phil Flack wrote: >> >> It's only a bit of fun, so don't complain ! >> >> http://www.gpl.netti.nu/ >> >> Phil >> of the GPLEAMGD

9:51? Grant it it's my first day with the new track.. My best is only 10:35 in the Eagle. That first left hander is a bitch, then the next one really get to me<g> Don Scurlock wrote in message <8F1E9AACCdscurlock@news>... >Lots of Fun, I'm down to 9.51 !! > > >-- >Don Scurlock >Vancouver,B.C.

On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:57:09 -0700, Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote: >(Sarcasm aimed at North American Ovals who manage to make four >turns out of an Oval with only two definable turns yet ignore >the fact that the start finish straight is a curve!) Hehehe Ive wondered about that before as well. :) p.s. - im canadian :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Skotty Flynn skotty20 on Won Nascar-Racing-Sims.Com: http://www.nascar-racing-sims.com The Ultimate Sim Racing Directory: http://www.nascar-racing-sims.com/directory/

This track is utterly terrible. 1. No braking points on the entry to T1 discernable in the racing groove. 2. No Spanish bullfighter Easter eggs 3. No Christian And lion Easter eggs. 4. British flag is totally inappropriate for a counter clockwise track 5. No winged carset available for running above the track. 6. No web page available as yet for the most stylish stunts (Hmm. That's an idea) 7. Impossible to get the necessary life insurance required by my team to run here MS <G> "Mike Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%qtM4.8170$[email hidden]... > 9:51? Grant it it's my first day with the new track.. My best isonly

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> 10:35 in the Eagle. That first left hander is a bitch, then the next one > really get to me<g> > > Don Scurlock wrote in message <8F1E9AACCdscurlock@news>... > >Lots of Fun, I'm down to 9.51 !! > > > > > >-- > >Don Scurlock > >Vancouver,B.C. > >

And a lot of fun it is too! Nice idea. Andrew McP

[email hidden] (Chris Bloom) wrote in <[email hidden]>: >I keep bottoming out though when I build up speed which causes a >major loss of control. I have set everything as hard as >possible and it's still scraping the tarmac. Use Race Engineer, you can get your front springs up to 300lbs and the rears up to 400lbs, and you'll still be bottoming. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

Like I said I was just being sarcastic, and just pointing out that I found the descriptions odd, it wasn't an anti-oval thing. I actually quite like oval racing, I think the CART series has a nice balance of oval vs. road circuits. Chris * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

Andrew Turner wrote: > > Could someone post some screenshots, or describe it? I don't have GPL > and it sounds.... well..... ok, I don't know what it sounds like, but > it's interesting. Here are some screenshots. The track has no straights, just one continuos turn! http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~arneh/div/pants.html -- Arne Martin

In article <[email hidden]>, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> writes >When I race at the upper part of the track, my car crashes BIG TIME... >I raised the car to 5" but still crash... >Big fun however! A little taste of how the Monza banking will be? > >Andre Same here, Andre. I tried for over an hour to figure out how to get quick enough to go under 12 seconds and not have the bottom of the car start scraping, but to no avail. My best is 11.4 and its usually the lap before I take off skywards. :( I've tried easing off when I hear the scraping, but then I'm back over 12 seconds again and it doesn't seem to matter one jot which car I try, or what line I take. So I'm 3 seconds off the pace of 8 to 9 seconds. This is ridiculous. :(

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> >On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:12:35 GMT, Shaun Robinson ><[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>Good f*cken job!!! This may be the coolest thing released in the world >>of GPL. >>VROC anyone? :) >> >>Phil Flack wrote: >>> >>> It's only a bit of fun, so don't complain ! >>> >>> http://www.gpl.netti.nu/ >>> >>> Phil >>> of the GPLEAMGD >

-- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

LOL On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:31:21 -0700, Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote: >Same as my best at Nurburgring;-) --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes

In article <8F1EA853Bdscurlock@news>, Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> wrote: >That would be 9:51, and I'm changing it to 9.40 So you've found the magic setup too? ;) 9.37 here :) Regards, Casper

I'm not sure if what I'm doing is even relevant. I'm not driving the line on the flat area around the bottom, which is what I assume the track was meant for. I'm riding the edge around the top of the bowl. Where are you doing it ? [email hidden] (Casper Gripenberg) wrote in <ktLM4.1310$[email hidden]>:

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>In article <8F1EA853Bdscurlock@news>, >Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> wrote: >>That would be 9:51, and I'm changing it to 9.40 > >So you've found the magic setup too? ;) 9.37 here :) > >Regards, > Casper > >

-- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

LOL On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:31:21 -0700, Chris Bloom >Same as my best at Nurburgring;-) --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes

Thanks for that track. Insane fun!

Thanks for that track. Insane fun!

Could someone post some screenshots, or describe it? I don't have GPL and it sounds.... well..... ok, I don't know what it sounds like, but it's interesting. Andrew Phil Flack wrote: > It's only a bit of fun, so don't complain ! > > http://www.gpl.netti.nu/ > > Phil > of the GPLEAMGD

Gault wrote in message <8e1klk$hd0$[email hidden]>... >Thanks for that track. Insane fun! > > I agree! And I finally have a track where I can consistently beat Clark by a margin of 33%! You guys are mad! Kurt

Andrew Turner <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Could someone post some screenshots, or describe it? I don't have GPL > and it sounds.... well..... ok, I don't know what it sounds like, but > it's interesting. Simply put, it's as though you're driving around the inside of an huge bowl (hence the name of the track). Its a short track - if you're a NASCAR fan, imagine Bristol on steroids. While the "racing line" is drawn toward the bottom, you're able to flit about the rim of the bowl perpendicular to the plane of the ground. It reminds me very much of those threads about modern F1 cars having sufficient downforce at speed to drive upside down in a tunnel. And believe me, if you don't have GPL its well worth getting even without the benefit of this track. :-)

Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > When I race at the upper part of the track, my car crashes BIG TIME... > I raised the car to 5" but still crash... > Big fun however! A little taste of how the Monza banking will be? Say, do you have any inside info or was that just an intuitive guess? That Monza banking reference has me wondering - after all, it is labeled as a test track. Monza with banking would be brilliant! But isn't there some problem with having the course double over itself? Seems to me that there was quite a bit of talk about this some time ago.

Hey look the AI works at ovals! It would be nice to remove the infield and put asphalt instead. (Dunno if it's possible, guess not) We would finish a lap everytime we make a donut. Would be a weird view at VROC...

In article <8F1FE4943dscurlock@news>, Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> wrote: >I'm not sure if what I'm doing is even relevant. I'm not driving the >line on the flat area around the bottom, which is what I assume the >track was meant for. I'm riding the edge around the top of the bowl. >Where are you doing it ? Top of the bowl. Down to 9.33. I don't think it's possible to go much faster. But it doesn't really require any Alien driving skills, that is true. The trick is the setup and keeping the car straight. Once you've figured it all out you've been there done that, and can go back to train at the Ring :) Regards, Casper

On the GPLEA forum someone recently mentioned that he was working on a banked Monza. No concrete facts, I just keep my hopes up! A banked Monza would be -so- cool! Andre On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:37:27 -0400, "Gault" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> When I race at the upper part of the track, my car crashes BIG TIME... >> I raised the car to 5" but still crash... >> Big fun however! A little taste of how the Monza banking will be? > >Say, do you have any inside info or was that just an intuitive guess? That >Monza banking reference has me wondering - after all, it is labeled as a >test track. Monza with banking would be brilliant! But isn't there some >problem with having the course double over itself? Seems to me that there >was quite a bit of talk about this some time ago. > >