N3: Spotter bugs?

>car". I stopped on the inside apron and the 113 car stopped behind me and >started doing a tail shuffle. "Just let him Baah". "Gren flag Green flag" >Sod this, I'm off you***head methinks. As I pass the startline, having >already lost 3/4 of a lap to the leader I hear the immortal words. "Oh maan. >They gave you the black flag for passing under yellow"! >Is this a known issue with NASCAR sims and if so, is there a patch to deal >with it? This is not the first time it's happened and it's really >frustrating me. Yeah, when you slow down and the car behind you refuses to pass, go up HIGH on the track - not the infield. If he doesn't pass you quickly, turn around and get behind him. Single file restarts won't stop this problem. Gunner

I am a veteran of most road racing sims --- GP1, GP2, Cart, GPL etc etc. It has not been until recently that I have taken to running on ovals, firstly with the GPL converted tracks and now N3. Having been beaten hands down in N3 by my ignorance of the yellow flag rules, EG race till the finish line and don't slow down when the yellow first comes out <doh> I have read up and now don't get lapped any more as a result. I was racing last night when a Yellow came out. This was about 15 laps from the end of a full distance race. I dived into the pits for a splash and go and as I emerged, a familliar voice shouted "Stay behind the 113 car" I slowed to let the 113 car by. Car 113 slowed as well. "Stay behind the 113 car" I slowed evern further and dropped into 1st gear. "Stay behind the 113 car". I stopped on the inside apron and the 113 car stopped behind me and started doing a tail shuffle. "Just let him Baah". "Gren flag Green flag" Sod this, I'm off you dickhead methinks. As I pass the startline, having already lost 3/4 of a lap to the leader I hear the immortal words. "Oh maan. They gave you the black flag for passing under yellow"! Is this a known issue with NASCAR sims and if so, is there a patch to deal with it? This is not the first time it's happened and it's really frustrating me. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Mark Seery. GPVL F3 league Director. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/mark.seery/

Mark Seery wrote:

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> > I am a veteran of most road racing sims --- GP1, GP2, Cart, GPL etc etc. It > has not been until recently that I have taken to running on ovals, firstly > with the GPL converted tracks and now N3. Having been beaten hands down in > N3 by my ignorance of the yellow flag rules, EG race till the finish line > and don't slow down when the yellow first comes out <doh> I have read up and > now don't get lapped any more as a result. > > I was racing last night when a Yellow came out. This was about 15 laps from > the end of a full distance race. I dived into the pits for a splash and go > and as I emerged, a familliar voice shouted "Stay behind the 113 car" > I slowed to let the 113 car by. Car 113 slowed as well. "Stay behind the 113 > car" I slowed evern further and dropped into 1st gear. "Stay behind the 113 > car". I stopped on the inside apron and the 113 car stopped behind me and > started doing a tail shuffle. "Just let him Baah". "Gren flag Green flag" > Sod this, I'm off you dickhead methinks. As I pass the startline, having > already lost 3/4 of a lap to the leader I hear the immortal words. "Oh maan. > They gave you the black flag for passing under yellow"! > > Is this a known issue with NASCAR sims and if so, is there a patch to deal > with it? This is not the first time it's happened and it's really > frustrating me. >

Yup. Well known NASCAR bug, still left around from previous versions. Don't think the beta patch does anything for it (I've been waiting for the final patch before firing it up again). Do you also have double-file restarts enabled? I find many more yellow flag related problems with double-file restarts enabled. Good Luck! -- Chuck Kandler #70 K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! They'll call you names And spit in your face, But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

Mark Seery wrote in message <8d1opp$qj2$[email hidden]>... >car". I stopped on the inside apron and the 113 car stopped behind me and >started doing a tail shuffle. "Just let him Baah". "Gren flag Green flag" >Sod this, I'm off you dickhead methinks. As I pass the startline, having >already lost 3/4 of a lap to the leader I hear the immortal words. "Ohmaan. >They gave you the black flag for passing under yellow"! > >Is this a known issue with NASCAR sims and if so, is there a patch to deal >with it? This is not the first time it's happened and it's really >frustrating me. > Yeah, when you slow down and the car behind you refuses to pass, go up HIGH on the track - not the infield. If he doesn't pass you quickly, turn around and get behind him. Single file restarts won't stop this problem. Gunner

> Do you also have > double-file restarts enabled? I find many more yellow flag related > problems with double-file restarts enabled. Good Luck! I'll try knocking it off and see what happens. Thanks Chuck...... MS

Hehe. I might try that online at VROC tonight........ Just joking guys <G> MS

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> > Yeah, when you slow down and the car behind you refuses to pass, go up > HIGH on the track - not the infield. If he doesn't pass you quickly, turn > around and get behind him. Single file restarts won't stop this problem. > > Gunner > >

Just for general info purposes the yellow flag probs with the lappers NOT moving up on the inside line and causing the cars on the outside line to get the black flaggged is no more with the beta patches. Chuck Kandler <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Mark Seery wrote: > > > > I am a veteran of most road racing sims --- GP1, GP2, Cart, GPL etcetc. It > > has not been until recently that I have taken to running on ovals,firstly > > with the GPL converted tracks and now N3. Having been beaten hands downin > > N3 by my ignorance of the yellow flag rules, EG race till the finishline > > and don't slow down when the yellow first comes out <doh> I have read upand > > now don't get lapped any more as a result. > > > > I was racing last night when a Yellow came out. This was about 15 lapsfrom > > the end of a full distance race. I dived into the pits for a splash andgo > > and as I emerged, a familliar voice shouted "Stay behind the 113 car" > > I slowed to let the 113 car by. Car 113 slowed as well. "Stay behind the113 > > car" I slowed evern further and dropped into 1st gear. "Stay behind the113 > > car". I stopped on the inside apron and the 113 car stopped behind meand > > started doing a tail shuffle. "Just let him Baah". "Gren flag Greenflag" > > Sod this, I'm off you dickhead methinks. As I pass the startline, having > > already lost 3/4 of a lap to the leader I hear the immortal words. "Ohmaan. > > They gave you the black flag for passing under yellow"! > > > > Is this a known issue with NASCAR sims and if so, is there a patch todeal

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> > with it? This is not the first time it's happened and it's really > > frustrating me. > > > > > Yup. Well known NASCAR bug, still left around from previous versions. > Don't think the beta patch does anything for it (I've been waiting for > the final patch before firing it up again). Do you also have > double-file restarts enabled? I find many more yellow flag related > problems with double-file restarts enabled. Good Luck! > > -- > Chuck Kandler #70 > K&S Racing > http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 > > Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: > http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! > > They'll call you names > And spit in your face, > But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

Dumb Question from a newbie: I bought the commercial version of N3. Are any of the patches applicable to this version, or just for the beta? Racer88 wrote:

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> > Just for general info purposes the yellow flag probs with the lappers NOT > moving up on the inside line and causing the cars on the outside line to get > the black flaggged is no more with the beta patches. > > Chuck Kandler <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Mark Seery wrote: > > > > > > I am a veteran of most road racing sims --- GP1, GP2, Cart, GPL etc > etc. It > > > has not been until recently that I have taken to running on ovals, > firstly > > > with the GPL converted tracks and now N3. Having been beaten hands down > in > > > N3 by my ignorance of the yellow flag rules, EG race till the finish > line > > > and don't slow down when the yellow first comes out <doh> I have > > > already lost 3/4 of a lap to the leader I hear the immortal words. "Oh > maan. > > > They gave you the black flag for passing under yellow"! > > > > > > Is this a known issue with NASCAR sims and if so, is there a patch to > deal > > > with it? This is not the first time it's happened and it's really > > > frustrating me. > > > > > > > > > Yup. Well known NASCAR bug, still left around from previous versions. > > Don't think the beta patch does anything for it (I've been waiting for > > the final patch before firing it up again). Do you also have > > double-file restarts enabled? I find many more yellow flag related > > problems with double-file restarts enabled. Good Luck! > >

The last beta has become the official patch. V1204 for cars. NL also has a similar patch, the truck patch merely updates the truck code to match N3 it is 1214 and hasn't quite cleared Sierra testing yet. dave henrie Ron Foreman wrote:

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> > Dumb Question from a newbie: I bought the commercial version of N3. > Are any of the patches applicable to this version, or just for the beta? > > Racer88 wrote: > > > > Just for general info purposes the yellow flag probs with the lappers NOT > > moving up on the inside line and causing the cars on the outside line to get > > the black flaggged is no more with the beta patches. > > > > Chuck Kandler <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Mark Seery wrote: > > > > > > > > I am a veteran of most road racing sims --- GP1, GP2, Cart, GPL etc > > etc. It > > > > has not been until recently that I have taken to running on ovals, > > firstly > > > > with the GPL converted tracks and now N3. Having been beaten hands down > > in > > > > N3 by my ignorance of the yellow flag rules, EG race till the finish > > line > > > > and don't slow down when the yellow first comes out <doh> I have > > > already lost 3/4 of a lap to the leader I hear the immortal words. "Oh > > maan. > > > > They gave you the black flag for passing under yellow"! > > > > > > > > Is this a known issue with NASCAR sims and if so, is there a patch to > > deal > > > > with it? This is not the first time it's happened and it's really > > > > frustrating me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yup. Well known NASCAR bug, still left around from previous versions. > > > Don't think the beta patch does anything for it (I've been waiting for > > > the final patch before firing it up again). Do you also have > > > double-file restarts enabled? I find many more yellow flag related > > > problems with double-file restarts enabled. Good Luck! > > >