cleaning pots with white spirit?

[cue Nicola in _Life is Sweet_]: "RACIST!" (joke) --DK

Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with white spirit or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know about white spirit.

[cue Nicola in _Life is Sweet_]: "RACIST!" (joke) --DK "Tim Vanhee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O7OF4.10689$[email hidden]... > Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with whitespirit > or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know aboutwhite > spirit. > >

i used ambersil 40+ (similar to wd40 i think) and now the pot on my wheel is fine. but i accept no responsibility for loss and or damage to any products based on advice given from this message :) pez Tim Vanhee <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O7OF4.10689$[email hidden]... > Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with whitespirit > or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know aboutwhite > spirit. > >

>I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know about white >spirit. The following is from the Thrustmaster website. "You can easily clean the potentiometer. The best cleaning solution would be a graphite base non-oil lubrifiant, but you can use regular WD40." I had a pot that was spiking about 2 months ago. I gave it a shot of WD40 and it has been working properly ever since. I use it every night. no problems.

WD-40 will not harm your pots. It won't necessarily clean them either. Be careful using laquer thinners, mineral spirits, brake cleaners, or solvents containing acetone -- not good for varnished copper windings. Rick Tim Vanhee wrote in message ... >Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with whitespirit >or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know about white >spirit. > >

Jan, that is an utterly false statement. WD-40 *is* an excellent cleaner. If you need it spelled out for you, take a look at http://www.wd40.com Rick Jan Verschueren wrote in message ... >WD40 is a lubricant, NOT a cleaner.

Tim Vanhee <[email hidden]> wrote > Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with whitespirit > or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know aboutwhite > spirit. Buy a spray can of contact cleaner, which is intended for these jobs. Every electrical or HiFi store sells them. Bye, Leo

About 2 months ago I had probs with my throttle pot....it wouldnt calabrate (it would keep jumping around). I didnt have any contact cleaner so I used WD-40 on it and it has been working 100% after 2 months of hard use. All the best, Lorne pez <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8c8mml$ea4$[email hidden]... > i used ambersil 40+ (similar to wd40 i think) and now the pot on my wheelis > fine. > > but i accept no responsibility for loss and or damage to any productsbased

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> on advice given from this message :) > > pez > Tim Vanhee <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:O7OF4.10689$[email hidden]... > > Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with white > spirit > > or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know about > white > > spirit. > > > > > >

I just want to say that I am not recommending you use WD-40..... I wanted to race that night and I took the chance.... "so far" it`s working fine, but I really should pick up some contact cleaner and clean it out. . . Lorne Lorne Glustein <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NZRF4.14518$[email hidden]... > About 2 months ago I had probs with my throttle pot....it wouldntcalabrate

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> (it would keep jumping around). I didnt have any contact cleaner so I used > WD-40 on it and it has been working 100% after 2 months of hard use. > > All the best, > Lorne > > > pez <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8c8mml$ea4$[email hidden]... > > i used ambersil 40+ (similar to wd40 i think) and now the pot on my

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> is > > fine. > > > > but i accept no responsibility for loss and or damage to any products > based > > on advice given from this message :) > > > > pez > > Tim Vanhee <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:O7OF4.10689$[email hidden]... > > > Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with white > > spirit > > > or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know about > > white > > > spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > >

Don't do it Tim... you'll regret it. Petroleum based cleaning agents are to be avoided like the plague. Ideally you should use iso-propanol alcohol. Available from CF as "IsoClene", for example. Another option is Kontakt60 from Kontakt Chemie (dunno the active ingredient in that one). Acetone, ether or pure alcohol might do the trick as well. Don't open up the pots... instead "drown" them in the cleaning liquid, actuate them and "rinse" them. Jan. =--- Tim Vanhee <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O7OF4.10689$[email hidden]... > Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with whitespirit > or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know aboutwhite > spirit. > >

WD40 is a lubricant, NOT a cleaner. Jan. =--- pez <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8c8mml$ea4$[email hidden]... > i used ambersil 40+ (similar to wd40 i think) and now the pot on my wheelis > fine. > > but i accept no responsibility for loss and or damage to any productsbased > on advice given from this message :) > > pez > <snip>

Here's a post from 3 long days ago: ----------------------------------------- I wouldn't recommend WD40. Best to get some tuner cleaner from a radio parts place like Radio Shack (shadio rack? - I used to manage one). Also, you can use brake cleaner or electrical contact cleaner from an auto parts store, but make sure they are safe for plastic if you are spaying near any plastic parts, otherwise you'll melt them. Slot Remco Moedt <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Hey all! > > > Lately my (superb) Hyperstimulator is spiking. :-( The throttle gives > 100% when at 30% for a moment, causing funny moments when stepping on > the gas after a turn. <g> The spiking in the wheel doesn't help > either, at 10% right turn, it gives 90-100% for a moment. > > Now, with all the tricky GPL turns being to the right, I can say GPL > is more fun then ever! NOT! > > Is there an Hyperstim wizard who can tell me how I can clean the pots? > They are the default blue 100K ones, but I believe they have a closed > housing. Can I use some spray like WD40 to clean them, and if so, do I > have to open those potentiometers? If the latter is true, how do I > open these buggers without causing damage? > > Thanks to the kind person who can help me. > > Regards, > > Remco >

"Tim Vanhee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O7OF4.10689$[email hidden]... > Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with whitespirit > or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know aboutwhite > spirit. > >

radio crack electronic cleaner is OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive go to a auto parts store and get some contact cleaner check to see if it harms plastic! stick the nozzle in the pot and spray liberally, work the pot, spray etc etc etc you could lube the pot, ( they are from the factory ) with DIELECTRIC grease or...with a small bit of wd-40 which is a corrosive btw! good luck JM Tim Vanhee wrote: > Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with white spirit > or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know about white > spirit.

Tim Vanhee wrote: > > Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with white spirit > or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know about white > spirit. Actually, I've been using WD40 on my pots for about 6 months now, and they haven't dissolved yet. I think that generally it's OK, but only certain types of pots with different surface material may have problems. I have Thrustmaster gear, so these pots seem to be able to cope with it. WD40 gets them working really nice, but it doesn't last, so this is somewhat of a regular procedure I have to do. If I want to make them work perfectly (you need to for GPL :) ), I would say about once a month or two is what works for me. -Gregor

WD40 is a lubricant, NOT a cleaner. Jan. =---

>'Arklone' A-M solvent. Based on 112, 122 Trichlorotrifluoethane (my dog is I've NEVER seen a better electronic cleaner than trichloroflouroethane. We used it a LOT in the Navy. Problem was, it's flash point was 65oF! It's GREAT stuff, though. didn't know they still made it! Gunner

I'm surprised that someone with Rick's. . . er, shall we say, sophistication towards received truth would take corporate sales drivel as evidence of said truth. --DK "Rick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Jan, that is an utterly false statement. WD-40 *is* an excellent cleaner. > If you need it spelled out for you, take a look at http://www.wd40.com > > Rick > > Jan Verschueren wrote in message ... > >WD40 is a lubricant, NOT a cleaner. > > >

From the website.... <quote> With a household name like WD-40�, users know they can trust a brand that cleans, penetrates, protects, and lubricates just about anything. </quote ^^^^^^^^^^| |---> I rest my case. You can't have lubricating residues on the resistance track, they reduce conductivity and attract dust. Jan. =--- Rick <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Jan, that is an utterly false statement. WD-40 *is* an excellent cleaner. > If you need it spelled out for you, take a look at http://www.wd40.com > > Rick<snip>

Tim Vanhee wrote in message ... >'Arklone' A-M solvent. Based on 112, 122 Trichlorotrifluoethane (my dog is I've NEVER seen a better electronic cleaner than trichloroflouroethane. We used it a LOT in the Navy. Problem was, it's flash point was 65oF! It's GREAT stuff, though. didn't know they still made it! Gunner

"Tim Vanhee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O7OF4.10689$[email hidden]... > Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with whitespirit > or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know aboutwhite > spirit. >WD40 won't destroy your pots. It is used in many electrical fields as a water absorbant, cleaner and lubricator. That said, it will increase the resistivity of your pots. The hot ticket? Go to a hobby store that deals in electric RC cars. Not Radio Shack. A store that handles top end racing machines like those from Associated and Trinity. Get a can of motor cleaner, make sure it's safe for plastics though. Much cheaper than Radio Shack tuner spray and does a great job. Now, here's the hot ticket that I've never heard anyone else here on r.a.s. give. Get a bottle of what are called "comm drops." This is a *conducting* lubricant used by RC racers to get top power out of their motors. I keeps air off the conductive surfaces, making them stay clean longer, fills gaps between the contacts to give a better conducting surface, and lubricates, reducing mechanical wear of the contacts. It'll quadruple the physical life of your pots. One drop in each pot'll do the trick.

At Crosman Airguns we used to use it too. We have a SWE 2000.. this machine would separate water and oil by boiling the water out. Then we could get rid of our waste oil easier and cheaper. In any case, once in a while we would get a bit of triclor.. mixed in with the mop water. It had a wild reaction when we used Sulfuric acid to pH neutralize the water/oil/soap before it went in to the SWE. some times it get bad enough that that part of the building was evacuated. I could go on with the fire stories with the SWE but that's getting a bit off topic<g> btw: triclouroetholene is still made in large quantities and easily available.. It's just hidden with the rest of the hazardous material you never see. Don Hancock ("Gunner") wrote in message ... > Tim Vanhee wrote in message ... >>'Arklone' A-M solvent. Based on 112, 122 Trichlorotrifluoethane (my dog is > > > I've NEVER seen a better electronic cleaner than trichloroflouroethane. >We used it a LOT in the Navy. Problem was, it's flash point was 65oF!It's >GREAT stuff, though. didn't know they still made it! > >Gunner > >

Well, You are right, I did it and I regret it. It spiked before and it spiked like hell after it. But I used ICI Circuit Clean now and it works like a charm.(for now) Let's hope it stays good. The label says: Contains 'Arklone' A-M solvent. Based on 112, 122 Trichlorotrifluoethane (my dog is named that way too) with additives to help remove active fluxes from printed circuit boards. This product can also be used effectively to clean electronic and precision engineering components and most plastic materials and mouldings. Dries quickly without residue, good electrical properties. Sounds good, works good (for now) Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws aiRF4.11579$[email hidden]... > Don't do it Tim... you'll regret it. Petroleum based cleaning agents areto

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> be avoided like the plague. > > Ideally you should use iso-propanol alcohol. Available from CF as > "IsoClene", for example. Another option is Kontakt60 from Kontakt Chemie > (dunno the active ingredient in that one). Acetone, ether or pure alcohol > might do the trick as well. > > Don't open up the pots... instead "drown" them in the cleaning liquid, > actuate them and "rinse" them. > > Jan. > =--- > Tim Vanhee <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:O7OF4.10689$[email hidden]... > > Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with white > spirit > > or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know about > white > > spirit. > > > > > >

"john moore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > radio crack electronic cleaner is OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive Yup, $1.99 for 4 oz. Let's see, used once a month in 3 pots that should last about twenty years. Sorry JM, I just couldn't resist ;-) Slot

"Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8can1j$flk$[email hidden]... > > The hot ticket? Go to a hobby store that deals in electric RC cars. Not > Radio Shack. A store that handles top end racing machines like those from > Associated and Trinity. Get a can of motor cleaner, make sure it's safefor > plastics though. We compared a couple brands sold at a local track. They were identical ingredients to LPS Labs cleaner (and probably several others), but twice the price. The chemicals used in R/C and slot car motors are just something else repackaged. The LPS product is sold at auto parts stores. > Now, here's the hot ticket that I've never heard anyone else here onr.a.s. > give. Get a bottle of what are called "comm drops." This is a *conducting* > lubricant used by RC racers to get top power out of their motors. I keeps > air off the conductive surfaces, making them stay clean longer, fills gaps > between the contacts to give a better conducting surface, and lubricates, > reducing mechanical wear of the contacts. It'll quadruple the physicallife > of your pots. > Com drops do clean the surface. Using them on a new motor seats the brushes faster, but that's because they wear the surface faster. They give a motor more power when applied, but only for a very short period before they wear off, usually within a couple hundred feet. Motors I've run extensively with com drops usually last about 1/2 as long as motors run without them. They put tremendous wear on the commutator. Generally we used them on $10 to $15 motors, but not on $150 motors. Anyway, if you use them on pots, just be careful and beware, and don't use them often. Slot

WD-40 is a mechanical miracle in a can. It's been around a long time solving tough jobs for consumers and industry. The company could only stand to lose it's reputation by flogging the product under false pretenses. Does WD-40 clean just because the company says it does? Of course not. But I no longer possess the credibility to make a case here on USENET. I _had_ to utilize a 3rd party URL. Since that wasn't good enough, then I invite you to a short home-schooling session. Take a black permanent marker ("magic marker") and draw a line on a powdercoated finish, such as your washing machine or icebox. Let it dry, then try to remove it using a 'real' cleaner such as Formula 409 or some other non-abrasive. It's no wonder they call 'em "permanent markers", eh? Now, spray on some forty and watch that grafitti disappear. Amazing stuff. You can't say a substance isn't a cleaner because it's also a lubricant. Liquid soap comes to mind. Rick David Karr wrote in message <8ca2ln$o3o$[email hidden]>... >I'm surprised that someone with Rick's. . . er, shall we say,sophistication >towards received truth would take corporate sales drivel as evidence ofsaid >truth. > >--DK

Hate to say it, but: "Told you so!!" (did I mention I do most of my work for an electronics store ;-)) Seriously, what you ended up using sounds good, I'd never heard of it, but it sounds real good. Where did you buy / order it? Jan. =--- Tim Vanhee <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xc4G4.16217$[email hidden]... > Well, You are right, I did it and I regret it. It spiked before and it > spiked like hell after it. But I used ICI Circuit Clean now and it works > like a charm.(for now) Let's hope it stays good. The label says: Contains > 'Arklone' A-M solvent. Based on 112, 122 Trichlorotrifluoethane (my dog is > named that way too) with additives to help remove active fluxes fromprinted

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> circuit boards. This product can also be used effectively to clean > electronic and precision engineering components and most plastic materials > and mouldings. > Dries quickly without residue, good electrical properties. > Sounds good, works good (for now) > > Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> schreef in > <Snip>

LOL! You're just saying that because you still have cases of it down in the bunker! --DK "Rick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > WD-40 is a mechanical miracle in a can. It's been around a long timesolving > tough jobs for consumers and industry. The company could only stand tolose > it's reputation by flogging the product under false pretenses. >[snip]

I found it in a closet at home. It's looks like it's been there for a long time. I wouldn't say the label is GPL style but it looks like it's about ten years old. I can't find anything about it at http://www.ici.com/ but my dad's a sales manager for a company that does chemicals. I'm gonna ask him if you can still buy that stuff somewhere. He might know more. In the mean time I did a search for Arklone on the net. It seems that Arklone contains CFC's (CFK's in't vlaams) so it is banned because it damages the ozonelayer. Sorry guys, it look like it's the best solution but it ain't available anymore. Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws g%8G4.18351$[email hidden]... > Hate to say it, but: "Told you so!!" (did I mention I do most of my workfor

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> an electronics store ;-)) > > Seriously, what you ended up using sounds good, I'd never heard of it, but > it sounds real good. Where did you buy / order it? > > Jan. > =--- > Tim Vanhee <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:xc4G4.16217$[email hidden]... > > Well, You are right, I did it and I regret it. It spiked before and it > > spiked like hell after it. But I used ICI Circuit Clean now and it works > > like a charm.(for now) Let's hope it stays good. The label says:

Contains > > 'Arklone' A-M solvent. Based on 112, 122 Trichlorotrifluoethane (my dogis > > named that way too) with additives to help remove active fluxes from > printed > > circuit boards. This product can also be used effectively to clean > > electronic and precision engineering components and most plasticmaterials

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> > and mouldings. > > Dries quickly without residue, good electrical properties. > > Sounds good, works good (for now) > > > > Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> schreef in > > <Snip> > >