GPL - Arcade versus in-car view

Since the converter came out I have been using the F10 arcade view to help navigate the new tracks, and as much as this might be GPL heresy, I find myself really enjoying it. On my P2-400 with a Voodoo2, in-car view frame rates for most tracks are in the upper ***s at the start and run in the upper twenties to low thirties during a race. This is with all graphic options on and the slider about half-way. I have tried reducing some of the options, but I feel that takes away the flavor of the sim. When I use the F10 arcade view, I average in the low thirties at the start and max out at 36 fps for the rest of the time. The only exception is Monaco and even there my starts are in the twenties versus the low ***s seen in the in-car view. The added bonus is getting to watch your own suspension flex and the sparks that get generated when you fly off the curbs! Anyone else want to admit to being a secret F10 viewer?? ;-) -- Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

I have always found the F10 view helpful to learn Papy tracks, pick out braking and turn in points, etc. But I much prefer to race from the in car view. -- don [|]-(_)-[|] > Since the converter came out I have been using the F10 arcade view to > help navigate the new tracks, and as much as this might be GPL heresy, I > find myself really enjoying it. On my P2-400 with a Voodoo2, in-car > view frame rates for most tracks are in the upper ***s at the start and > run in the upper twenties to low thirties during a race. This is with > all graphic options on and the slider about half-way. I have tried > reducing some of the options, but I feel that takes away the flavor of > the sim. > When I use the F10 arcade view, I average in the low thirties at the > start and max out at 36 fps for the rest of the time. The only exception > is Monaco and even there my starts are in the twenties versus the low > ***s seen in the in-car view. > The added bonus is getting to watch your own suspension flex and the > sparks that get generated when you fly off the curbs! > Anyone else want to admit to being a secret F10 viewer?? ;-) > -- > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

personally i hate that view and wonder why they ever put in the title. I have heard though that at least one of the hotshoes uses it to set his record times round monza! Cheers Rich http://come.to/rs-shifter

F-10? YUK!! btw- turn down that detail slider! I get 36 fps in 1024x768 on my p2-400, with everything but drivers arms on. works great! Rik Anthrax - - "trust the government?? what are you, some kind of moron?" "Cato was right."

I only use F10 on the grid to see who's along side me. Find it difficult to put fast lap limes in with F10 though, and I prefer the***pit view anyway

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> Since the converter came out I have been using the F10 arcade view to > help navigate the new tracks, and as much as this might be GPL heresy, I > find myself really enjoying it. On my P2-400 with a Voodoo2, in-car > view frame rates for most tracks are in the upper ***s at the start and > run in the upper twenties to low thirties during a race. This is with > all graphic options on and the slider about half-way. I have tried > reducing some of the options, but I feel that takes away the flavor of > the sim. > When I use the F10 arcade view, I average in the low thirties at the > start and max out at 36 fps for the rest of the time. The only exception > is Monaco and even there my starts are in the twenties versus the low > ***s seen in the in-car view. > The added bonus is getting to watch your own suspension flex and the > sparks that get generated when you fly off the curbs! > Anyone else want to admit to being a secret F10 viewer?? ;-) > -- > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

F10 view is definately easier but if it's faster in the end i don't know i know someone that drove a 1:27,28 after 4 weeks of gpl in F10 view the problem he has now is that he can't drive in***pit view and doesn't have the mirrors, which can be a real pain in the ass driving online.

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> Since the converter came out I have been using the F10 arcade view to > help navigate the new tracks, and as much as this might be GPL heresy, I > find myself really enjoying it. On my P2-400 with a Voodoo2, in-car > view frame rates for most tracks are in the upper ***s at the start and > run in the upper twenties to low thirties during a race. This is with > all graphic options on and the slider about half-way. I have tried > reducing some of the options, but I feel that takes away the flavor of > the sim. > When I use the F10 arcade view, I average in the low thirties at the > start and max out at 36 fps for the rest of the time. The only exception > is Monaco and even there my starts are in the twenties versus the low > ***s seen in the in-car view. > The added bonus is getting to watch your own suspension flex and the > sparks that get generated when you fly off the curbs! > Anyone else want to admit to being a secret F10 viewer?? ;-) > -- > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

Hey! I use the F10 view (frequently switching back to check mirrors)! ;) Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrashes.cjb.net

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> > >Anyone else want to admit to being a secret F10 viewer?? ;-) > > > >-- > > > personally i hate that view and wonder why they ever put in the > title.

Well, I know I drive with the arcade view exclusively. I find I can more easily see how the car is reacting to my input, in particular my polar movement through turns. I find it helps to make up for the total lack of sensory input on many fronts - no peripheral vision, no sense of gravity/intertia/balance, no touch. I never could, for some reason, figure out *why* my car was reacting the way it did many times in the in car view. Once I switched to the F10 viewthough, I saw just what the heck I was screwing up so badly. -- |_ Oo\ Alex | Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si [email hidden] | marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

Formerly I used the F10-view to learn a track. Overview (or should I say Outlook?) is much better. For slow systems Frame rate is much better - an excellent excuse for F10 If you are quite new to GPL (less than one year or so) F10 is helpful to see car reactions earlier and easier. I the later state of addiction this gets less important. What I REALLY miss in F10: review mirrors. Also the feeling isn't right for me. Jens --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes