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F1 2000 - first impressions

17 posts by 11 people · 17 Mar 2000 - 25 Mar 2000

Colin 17 Mar 2000#523151
I played it for 1 hour this morning and here's my impressions FWIW... The Good ======= On my PIII 533 with GeForce it ran smooth as silk with ALL detail turned on and 22 cars in 800x600. The physics are improved since SCGT, and damage is correctly modelled. With all help options turned off, it is VERY difficult. Donuts on the starting grid etc. =) Pit-crew speech is superb... e.g. "Frenzen has spun at turn 1 be careful" "Button has come out of the pits, looks like he's on a three stop strategy" When you accelerate and brake hard, the***pit perspective changes slightly to give the illusion of movement. VERY, VERY COOL. The game is based on the current F1 season. with all the correct drivers and tracks. The controller screen gives you a multitude of options. You can kill the deadzone, play with the sensitivity etc, There are many help options, brake, throttle, overstear control, automatic spin help etc. Brake bias can be altered while driving. The level of detail can be changed on the fly, trees off/on, buildings off/on etc. It seems as though engine damage is correctly modelled. I popped it into a low gear at high speed and from then on the engine sounded VERY rough and would not accelerate properly. Just like in GPL. The AI seems to be pretty good. I've seen aggressive manouevers from the AI, plus PLENTY of spins =) Gravel traps work as they should. Come to a stop and you're in BIG trouble. However, if you have enough momentum you drive right through them. When you come out, car slides all over the place. Very nice. The only track I raced on was Silverstone. It appeared to be nicely reproduced. Looking forward to trying Indy tonight =) There are no hands on the steering wheel (which moves) but you can turn the wheel off. I actually like having the wheel there. Oh and NO BIG HEADS!!! The Bad ====== In 1024x768 with 22 cars and all the detail turned on I had a little slowdown. I could not change the***pit view during the game. I could change it on the options screen though. The two cars I raced with (Jaguar, Ferrari) both had 7 speed gearboxes. Only the Ferrari should. The engine sounds are not the best. All cars sound pretty much the same. The A3D support is excellent though. =) The physics model is closer to SCGT than GPL. Overall ===== In all respects it blows away the competition. I see myself playing this one A LOT. F1RS, Monaco, GP2 do not even get a look in any more. This game is hands down better than all of them. I've already got my pre-order in . I suggest you all do the same =) Cheers, ...Colin
Colin 17 Mar 2000#523152
One other thing... It looks like the designers of F1 2000 had GPL in their sights when they developed this game. If you hit V or N while driving you "look" left and right. You don't just get a left or right view instantly, the***pit actually pans left and right EXACTLY as it does in GPL. Coincidence? I think not... ...Colin
Colin, you can change the***pit views with the insert, delete, home, end, page up and page down views during the race. With the + key you can change the car you're watching. Lots of really cool car cams!! Andre
Colin 17 Mar 2000#523154
Nice one. Cheers, ...Colin
Quoted text (11 lines)> Colin, you can change the***pit views with the insert, delete, home, > end, page up and page down views during the race. With the + key you > can change the car you're watching. Lots of really cool car cams!! > Andre > >I could not change the***pit view during the game. I could change it
on > >the options screen though.
Han 17 Mar 2000#523155
is it not working correctly on my system or do the graphics really look that bad? images arent smooth at all on my end, especially the trees around the track etc. I checked the Ini file and d3d is the primary card.. not software. If i was in software mode id have to believe the amount of slowdown would be way higher at 1024x768 than it is. Just curious whatd you think of the graphics?
Quoted text (20 lines)>Nice one. >Cheers, >...Colin >> Colin, you can change the***pit views with the insert, delete, home, >> end, page up and page down views during the race. With the + key you >> can change the car you're watching. Lots of really cool car cams!! >> Andre >> >I could not change the***pit view during the game. I could change it >on >> >the options screen though.
David Ewing 21 Mar 2000#285652
Colin wrote: > I The Bad > > The two cars I raced with (Jaguar, Ferrari) both had 7 speed gearboxes. > Only the Ferrari should. There are two cars with 7 speed gearboxes this year, Ferrari being one, and I am blanking on the second (it very well might have been Jaguar). However, I have since read that all the cars in F1 2000 have 7 speeds (is that correct?). If that is so, it is obviously very wrong. Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************
ymenard 22 Mar 2000 05:36 UTC#285622
"David Ewing" <[email hidden]> wrote > There are two cars with 7 speed gearboxes this year, Ferrari being one,and I > am blanking on the second (it very well might have been Jaguar). F1 2000 has 7 gears for every car. Wow what a great features <giggles> Im almost sure it's Jordan the second team who has a 7gearbox. They had it for a couple of years. Ubisoft has it that way, and Im sure Eddie told that numerous times in interviews. IIRC, Ferrari only used 7gears on a limited number of tracks, not the "slow circuits" (Monaco, Hungary, Ring) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Greg Cisko 23 Mar 2000#284896
ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wZYB4.1182$[email hidden]... > Im almost sure it's Jordan the second team who has a 7gearbox. They hadit > for a couple of years. Ubisoft has it that way, and Im sure Eddie toldthat The Jordon in F1RS has 6 gears. I know because that is the team I usually drive for. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > numerous times in interviews. IIRC, Ferrari only used 7gears on a limited > number of tracks, not the "slow circuits" (Monaco, Hungary, Ring) > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >
On the following date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:17:33 GMT, said person(s) [email hidden] (E A Scholten) stated: >For what I heard,EA has taken people from the teams of other f1 games >like gp2,3 and gpl... > >Ewout No they didn't. ISI (Image Space Incorporated) made that game. EA is just the publisher. - James "Gunslinger" Wohlever [email hidden] Techware Computer Services http://techware.gtinsider.com Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to: [email hidden]
rrevved 23 Mar 2000#284918
On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:00:32 -0600, "Greg Cisko" <no.spam.email.for.me> wrote: >ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:wZYB4.1182$[email hidden]... >> Im almost sure it's Jordan the second team who has a 7gearbox. > >The Jordon in F1RS has 6 gears. I know because that is the team I >usually drive for. Is that why they call it the 'silly season'? :) -- * rrev at mindspring dot com *
E A Scholten 23 Mar 2000 11:17 UTC#285282
Quoted text (7 lines)>One other thing... >It looks like the designers of F1 2000 had GPL in their sights when they >developed this game. >If you hit V or N while driving you "look" left and right. >You don't just get a left or right view instantly, the cockpit actually pans >left and right EXACTLY as it does in GPL. >Coincidence? I think not...
For what I heard,EA has taken people from the teams of other f1 games like gp2,3 and gpl... Ewout
David Ewing 24 Mar 2000#284407
Greg Cisko wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:wZYB4.1182$[email hidden]... > > Im almost sure it's Jordan the second team who has a 7gearbox. They had > it > > for a couple of years. Ubisoft has it that way, and Im sure Eddie told > that > > The Jordon in F1RS has 6 gears. I know because that is the team I > usually drive for.
Greg, we were talking about F12000 and how well (or poorly) it modeled the cars of the 2000 season. F1RS is based on 1996. This season Ferrari and perhaps Jordan have gone go 7 speed gearboxes. Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************
On the following date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:50:54 +0100, said person(s) "Stephen Ferguson" <[email hidden]> stated:
Quoted text (18 lines)> >James Wohlever <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On the following date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:17:33 GMT, said person(s) >> [email hidden] (E A Scholten) stated: >> >> >For what I heard,EA has taken people from the teams of other f1 games >> >like gp2,3 and gpl... >> > >> >Ewout >> >> No they didn't. >> ISI (Image Space Incorporated) made that game. >> EA is just the publisher. >> > >Well, despite that, it is true that the lead guy on the ISI team was working >on GP3 before he switched.
Are you talking about Gjon? If so, your wrong. Gjon did Dept of Defense contracts before starting ISI SCGT was the first race sim that Gjon ever did. - James "Gunslinger" Wohlever [email hidden] Techware Computer Services http://techware.gtinsider.com Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to: [email hidden]
James Wohlever <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> On the following date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:17:33 GMT, said person(s) > [email hidden] (E A Scholten) stated: > > >For what I heard,EA has taken people from the teams of other f1 games > >like gp2,3 and gpl... > > > >Ewout > > No they didn't. > ISI (Image Space Incorporated) made that game. > EA is just the publisher. >
Well, despite that, it is true that the lead guy on the ISI team was working on GP3 before he switched. Stephen
David Karr 24 Mar 2000 05:17 UTC#284933
LOL! remove my brain when replying! --DK "rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> > Is that why they call it the 'silly season'? > > :) > > -- > * rrev at mindspring dot com *
James Wohlever <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (20 lines)> On the following date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:50:54 +0100, said person(s) > "Stephen Ferguson" <[email hidden]> stated: > > > > >James Wohlever <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> On the following date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:17:33 GMT, said person(s) > >> [email hidden] (E A Scholten) stated: > >> > >> >For what I heard,EA has taken people from the teams of other f1 games > >> >like gp2,3 and gpl... > >> > > >> >Ewout > >> > >> No they didn't. > >> ISI (Image Space Incorporated) made that game. > >> EA is just the publisher. > >> > > > >Well, despite that, it is true that the lead guy on the ISI team was
working
Quoted text (7 lines)> >on GP3 before he switched. > > Are you talking about Gjon? > If so, your wrong. > Gjon did Dept of Defense contracts before starting ISI > SCGT was the first race sim that Gjon ever did. >
No, I'm talking about a guy whose name I can't remember at the moment :-) In the PC Games interview, he definitely mentioned that he was ex-GP3 and left when he realised there is only one number one guy, that being Crammond, and it's a mighty big shadow. Stephen

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