GPL TNT2 AAAAAARGH

Ok. I bought my new Celeron 500 with 32 MB tnt2. Great fun with my 19" and surround sound for N3 and RC2K! I knew it would give me problems with gpl but is wasn't unpatchable. So I went for it. I downloaded the glide patch and the 1.2 patch at the pits and gave it a try. It sucks! It gave me even less frames per second than with my antique p200mmx + banshee and the graphics are much worse. It looks all so blurry and undetailed with all graphic options turned on. Is it like that? Or is there another solution? Should I put my good old 16 mb Banshee in it? Please help me out!!!

You need the OpenGL patch and you have to run it in OpenGL mode. ...Colin

Tim, I'm using a P3 550, TNT2 32meg, non-ultra, at 1024*768, 16bit color. I get 36 fps at all times except starts offline, and 36 fps at all times online. As was mentioned, are you using the "Papy OpenGL Beta2 Patch" ? I have lots of graphics turned off to get those frame rates. Turn off ALL textures in mirrors, and have cars only in the mirrors. Set Mirror Refresh in Core.ini to somewhere between 4 and 8. I also have the arms and car textures off for racing. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

I'm running the same setup (Celeron 500 mhz and 32 MB TNT non-ultra). It runs great! My only problem is that I suck as a GPL driver. Look for some other cause with your computer. On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 21:50:19 GMT, [email hidden] (Don Scurlock) wrote:

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>Tim, I'm using a P3 550, TNT2 32meg, non-ultra, at 1024*768, 16bit >color. I get 36 fps at all times except starts offline, and 36 fps at >all times online. As was mentioned, are you using the "Papy OpenGL >Beta2 Patch" ? I have lots of graphics turned off to get those frame >rates. Turn off ALL textures in mirrors, and have cars only in the >mirrors. Set Mirror Refresh in Core.ini to somewhere between 4 and 8. >I also have the arms and car textures off for racing. > >[email hidden] (Tim Vanhee) wrote in ><vrdx4.79965$[email hidden]>: > >>Ok. I bought my new Celeron 500 with 32 MB tnt2. >>Great fun with my 19" and surround sound for N3 and RC2K! >>I knew it would give me problems with gpl but is wasn't unpatchable. >>So I went for it. >>I downloaded the glide patch and the 1.2 patch at the pits and gave >>it a try. It sucks! It gave me even less frames per second than with >>my antique p200mmx + banshee and the graphics are much worse. It >>looks all so blurry and undetailed with all graphic options turned >>on. Is it like that? Or is there another solution? Should I put my >>good old 16 mb Banshee in it? >>Please help me out!!! >> >> >>

Try nvidia 3.68 drivers and set buff flip to block transfer and be happy. In article <8EF08D08Edscurlock@news>, [email hidden] (Don Scurlock) wrote:

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> Tim, I'm using a P3 550, TNT2 32meg, non-ultra, at 1024*768, 16bit > color. I get 36 fps at all times except starts offline, and 36 fps at > all times online. As was mentioned, are you using the "Papy OpenGL > Beta2 Patch" ? I have lots of graphics turned off to get those frame > rates. Turn off ALL textures in mirrors, and have cars only in the > mirrors. Set Mirror Refresh in Core.ini to somewhere between 4 and 8. > I also have the arms and car textures off for racing. > > [email hidden] (Tim Vanhee) wrote in > <vrdx4.79965$[email hidden]>: > > >Ok. I bought my new Celeron 500 with 32 MB tnt2. > >Great fun with my 19" and surround sound for N3 and RC2K! > >I knew it would give me problems with gpl but is wasn't unpatchable. > >So I went for it. > >I downloaded the glide patch and the 1.2 patch at the pits and gave > >it a try. It sucks! It gave me even less frames per second than with > >my antique p200mmx + banshee and the graphics are much worse. It > >looks all so blurry and undetailed with all graphic options turned > >on. Is it like that? Or is there another solution? Should I put my > >good old 16 mb Banshee in it? > >Please help me out!!! > > > > > > > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. >

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Colin <[email hidden]> wrote: : You need the OpenGL patch and you have to run it in OpenGL mode. : ...Colin I did have the latest patches of everything and I still have problems running GPL with Viper 770. It is getting long in tooth for me and I'll swap it with Voodoo3. GPL is great product, need improvement in user friendly (no need to go to xxx.ini files etc...) and add easy-difficulty slider, then it would be awesome. They could take GPL engine, add user friendly interface for setups etc..., that slider and sell as modern F1 sim, then it would be hot seller! Upgrade/sell on annual basis for previous season driver/team lineups. Jamie Clark http://SuperPaintballStore.com

Ok turned down the details so I have 36fps now, but the image still looks very blurry compared with my p200 16mb banshee. And can't I get any descent mirrors?? Hard to race at VROC without some good rear vision you know! Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws 8EF08D08Edscurlock@news...

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> Tim, I'm using a P3 550, TNT2 32meg, non-ultra, at 1024*768, 16bit > color. I get 36 fps at all times except starts offline, and 36 fps at > all times online. As was mentioned, are you using the "Papy OpenGL > Beta2 Patch" ? I have lots of graphics turned off to get those frame > rates. Turn off ALL textures in mirrors, and have cars only in the > mirrors. Set Mirror Refresh in Core.ini to somewhere between 4 and 8. > I also have the arms and car textures off for racing. > > [email hidden] (Tim Vanhee) wrote in > <vrdx4.79965$[email hidden]>: > > >Ok. I bought my new Celeron 500 with 32 MB tnt2. > >Great fun with my 19" and surround sound for N3 and RC2K! > >I knew it would give me problems with gpl but is wasn't unpatchable. > >So I went for it. > >I downloaded the glide patch and the 1.2 patch at the pits and gave > >it a try. It sucks! It gave me even less frames per second than with > >my antique p200mmx + banshee and the graphics are much worse. It > >looks all so blurry and undetailed with all graphic options turned > >on. Is it like that? Or is there another solution? Should I put my > >good old 16 mb Banshee in it? > >Please help me out!!! > > > > > > > > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C.

[email hidden] (Tim Vanhee) wrote in <p3xx4.81440$[email hidden]>: >Ok turned down the details so I have 36fps now, but the image still looks >very blurry compared with my p200 16mb banshee. And can't I get any descent >mirrors?? Hard to race at VROC without some good rear vision you know! Here are copies of two posts from Billy and Slot that solve the TNT mirror problem. It stops the flashing, and there's no frame rate hit, it's great. From: billy <[email hidden]> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Subject: How to fix GPL mirrors with any Nvidia driver I just got the GPL demo yesterday and after seeing how good it is, I plan on buying the game. There was a problem with the cars' mirrors though, which I've learned has been a long-time issue with the tnt/tnt2 cards. I searched the internet for a solution and came across a message here about using the 3.53 reference drivers with the "Use Block Transfer" setting to fix the problem, which works perfectly. The only problem is that those drivers suck hehe. I wanted to know how to enable that setting with the 2.08 drivers (the best ones imo), and discovered that this fix can be applied to any driver version by simply changing the value of the "FlippingControl" setting in the registry to "0". Depending on the driver version, this setting can be found in [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\RIVA TNT\OpenGL], or [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0001\NVidia \OpenGL] When doing a fresh install, the settings won't appear in the registry until an opengl game is run once. From: "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Subject: Re: How to fix GPL mirrors with any Nvidia driver You'll probably use the second path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0001\NVid ia\OpenGL Keep in mind, that the 0001 could be 0000 or 0002 or whatever, depending on the number of cards you HAVE or the number of drivers you HAD installed. When you open the folder, look on the right side of the split screen for "FlippingControl". Double click it and a box will open. Type 0 in the box and close the registry (just hit the x to close the window). It automatically saves the changes. Generally you don't have to reboot, but you may have to. Slot

This is weird... this should be in my registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0001\NVid ia\OpenGL All I have here is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0001\NVid ia Is this normal? Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws 8EF1839BAdscurlock@news... > [email hidden] (Tim Vanhee) wrote in > <p3xx4.81440$[email hidden]>: > > >Ok turned down the details so I have 36fps now, but the image still looks > >very blurry compared with my p200 16mb banshee. And can't I get anydescent

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> >mirrors?? Hard to race at VROC without some good rear vision you know! > > Here are copies of two posts from Billy and Slot that solve the TNT mirror > problem. It stops the flashing, and there's no frame rate hit, it's great. > > > From: billy <[email hidden]> > Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators > Subject: How to fix GPL mirrors with any Nvidia driver > > I just got the GPL demo yesterday and after seeing how good it is, I > plan on buying the game. There was a problem with the cars' mirrors > though, which I've learned has been a long-time issue with the tnt/tnt2 > cards. I searched the internet for a solution and came across a message > here about using the 3.53 reference drivers with the "Use Block > Transfer" setting to fix the problem, which works perfectly. The only > problem is that those drivers suck hehe. I wanted to know how to enable > that setting with the 2.08 drivers (the best ones imo), and discovered > that this fix can be applied to any driver version by simply changing > the value of the "FlippingControl" setting in the registry to "0". > > Depending on the driver version, this setting can be found in > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\RIVA TNT\OpenGL], or > >

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0001\NVi dia

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> \OpenGL] > > When doing a fresh install, the settings won't appear in the registry > until an opengl game is run once. > > From: "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> > Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators > Subject: Re: How to fix GPL mirrors with any Nvidia driver > > You'll probably use the second path: > >

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0001\NVid > ia\OpenGL > > Keep in mind, that the 0001 could be 0000 or 0002 or whatever, dependingon > the number of cards you HAVE or the number of drivers you HAD installed. > When you open the folder, look on the right side of the split screen for > "FlippingControl". Double click it and a box will open. Type 0 in the box > and close the registry (just hit the x to close the window). It > automatically saves the changes. Generally you don't have to reboot, butyou

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> may have to. > > Slot > > > >

Sorry Tim, I'm not a registry guy, but read the posts again, there are two different paths where it might be. On my system it was [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\RIVA TNT\OpenGL] [email hidden] (Tim Vanhee) wrote in <1FNx4.90105$[email hidden]>:

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>This is weird... this should be in my registry: >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0001\NVid >ia\OpenGL >All I have here is >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0001\NVid >ia >Is this normal? > > > >Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws >8EF1839BAdscurlock@news... >> [email hidden] (Tim Vanhee) wrote in >> <p3xx4.81440$[email hidden]>: >> >> >Ok turned down the details so I have 36fps now, but the image still looks >> >very blurry compared with my p200 16mb banshee. And can't I get any >descent >> >mirrors?? Hard to race at VROC without some good rear vision you know! >> >> Here are copies of two posts from Billy and Slot that solve the TNT mirror >> problem. It stops the flashing, and there's no frame rate hit, it's great. >> >> >> From: billy <[email hidden]> >> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators >> Subject: How to fix GPL mirrors with any Nvidia driver >> >> I just got the GPL demo yesterday and after seeing how good it is, I >> plan on buying the game. There was a problem with the cars' mirrors >> though, which I've learned has been a long-time issue with the tnt/tnt2 >> cards. I searched the internet for a solution and came across a message >> here about using the 3.53 reference drivers with the "Use Block >> Transfer" setting to fix the problem, which works perfectly. The only >> problem is that those drivers suck hehe. I wanted to know how to enable >> that setting with the 2.08 drivers (the best ones imo), and discovered >> that this fix can be applied to any driver version by simply changing >> the value of the "FlippingControl" setting in the registry to "0". >> >> Depending on the driver version, this setting can be found in >> >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\RIVA TNT\OpenGL], or >> >> >[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0001\NVi >dia >> \OpenGL] >> >> When doing a fresh install, the settings won't appear in the registry >> until an opengl game is run once. >> >> From: "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> >> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators >> Subject: Re: How to fix GPL mirrors with any Nvidia driver >> >> You'll probably use the second path: >> >> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0001\NVid >> ia\OpenGL >> >> Keep in mind, that the 0001 could be 0000 or 0002 or whatever, depending >on >> the number of cards you HAVE or the number of drivers you HAD installed. >> When you open the folder, look on the right side of the split screen for >> "FlippingControl". Double click it and a box will open. Type 0 in the box >> and close the registry (just hit the x to close the window). It >> automatically saves the changes. Generally you don't have to reboot, but >you >> may have to. >> >> Slot

-- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

Ooops I'm stupid! Thanks, mirrors work like a charm now. But graphics overall are still worse. The groove is unclear and it seems like the start of it at a braking point has moved further up the track. I'm having a lot of trouble racing because of that the groove. At Monza for example I miss my turn in point at ascari and miss my braking point totally at Parabolica. (some people may have noticed that on VROC :) I'll put some screenshots from my previous and my new system somewhere on the net. I'll let you know when I've done that.

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> Sorry Tim, I'm not a registry guy, but read the posts again, there are two > different paths where it might be. On my system it was > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\RIVA TNT\OpenGL] > >This is weird... this should be in my registry: >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0001\NVi

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> >ia > >Is this normal? > >> >Ok turned down the details so I have 36fps now, but the image still

looks > >> >very blurry compared with my p200 16mb banshee. And can't I get any > >descent > >> >mirrors?? Hard to race at VROC without some good rear vision you know! > >> Here are copies of two posts from Billy and Slot that solve the TNT mirror > >> problem. It stops the flashing, and there's no frame rate hit, it's great.

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> >> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators > >> Subject: How to fix GPL mirrors with any Nvidia driver > >> I just got the GPL demo yesterday and after seeing how good it is, I > >> plan on buying the game. There was a problem with the cars' mirrors > >> though, which I've learned has been a long-time issue with the tnt/tnt2 > >> cards. I searched the internet for a solution and came across a

message > >> here about using the 3.53 reference drivers with the "Use Block > >> Transfer" setting to fix the problem, which works perfectly. The only > >> problem is that those drivers suck hehe. I wanted to know how to enable

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> >> that setting with the 2.08 drivers (the best ones imo), and discovered > >> that this fix can be applied to any driver version by simply changing > >> the value of the "FlippingControl" setting in the registry to "0". > >> Depending on the driver version, this setting can be found in > >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\RIVA TNT\OpenGL], or >[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0001\NV

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> >dia > >> \OpenGL] > >> When doing a fresh install, the settings won't appear in the registry > >> until an opengl game is run once. > >> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators > >> Subject: Re: How to fix GPL mirrors with any Nvidia driver > >> You'll probably use the second path: >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Display\0001\NVi

d > >> ia\OpenGL > >> Keep in mind, that the 0001 could be 0000 or 0002 or whatever, depending > >on > >> the number of cards you HAVE or the number of drivers you HAD installed. > >> When you open the folder, look on the right side of the split screen for > >> "FlippingControl". Double click it and a box will open. Type 0 in the box > >> and close the registry (just hit the x to close the window). It > >> automatically saves the changes. Generally you don't have to reboot, but

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> >you > >> may have to. > >> Slot > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C.

Most people say that the Nvidia based cards have a clearer/sharper image than the Voodoo based cards due to different filtering techniques used, so I'm surprised you find it not as clear. There is even a websites showing side by side Nvidia versus Voodoo gpl screen shots. Don't know the url. Anybody ? GPL tends to be a bit dark. I have to turn up my monitor brightness for it. Could this be what your seeing ? -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.