Upgrading Millenium G200->G400?

Hi! I've got Celeron 300A (o/c 450MHz), 64Mb 100MHz DRAMM and a Matrox Millenium G200 AGP 8Mb. I've heard that there has been trouble with G400 and e.g. GPL, but is there any improvements to expect while upgrading to Millenium G400 AGP 16Mb? Are the other 3D games running without problems in Mille G400? Thanks.

Well, I've heard that the G400 is fantastic for everything BUT gpl. If you are interested in playing gpl, don't bother. It won't work. Rafe Mc

Hi there, I was contemplating the G400 as an upgrade, and heard about the problems it has with GPL. But it looks like Matrox may have sorted things out: http://forums.matroxusers.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/002249.html Read the last message, and the next page of replies. Is this for real? Woohoo if so :) Phil

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> Well, I've heard that the G400 is fantastic for everything BUT gpl. If > you are interested in playing gpl, don't bother. It won't work. > Rafe Mc > >Hi! > >I've got Celeron 300A (o/c 450MHz), 64Mb 100MHz DRAMM and > >a Matrox Millenium G200 AGP 8Mb. > >I've heard that there has been trouble with G400 and e.g. GPL, > >but is there any improvements to expect while upgrading to > >Millenium G400 AGP 16Mb? > >Are the other 3D games running without problems in Mille G400? > >Thanks.

If your interested in running GPL, your best bet is to get a Voodoo II 12 meg PCI piggy-back board. I'm running a TNT 1, 16 meg AGP card, and could never get GPL to run well with the OpenGL patch. I then added a VII card, and WOW what a difference! Besides you can pick one up now a days, for around $70, perhaps less if you shop around on the net! Regards Jay J

If you want one, let me know. I just upgraded to a Voodoo 3 2000 so I have no use for my Voodoo 2 12MB PCI piggy-back. Make me an offer (you pay for shipping). Been used less than 1 year and never overclocked. Mike

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> If your interested in running GPL, your best bet is to get a Voodoo II 12 > meg PCI piggy-back board. > I'm running a TNT 1, 16 meg AGP card, and could never get GPL to run well > with the OpenGL patch. I then added a VII card, and WOW what a difference! > Besides you can pick one up now a days, for around $70, perhaps less if you > shop around on the net! > Regards > Jay J > > Hi! > > I've got Celeron 300A (o/c 450MHz), 64Mb 100MHz DRAMM and > > a Matrox Millenium G200 AGP 8Mb. > > I've heard that there has been trouble with G400 and e.g. GPL, > > but is there any improvements to expect while upgrading to > > Millenium G400 AGP 16Mb? > > Are the other 3D games running without problems in Mille G400? > > Thanks.

I hope so, ihope so.... Andre

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> Hi there, I was contemplating the G400 as an upgrade, and heard about > the problems it has with GPL. But it looks like Matrox may have sorted > things out: > http://forums.matroxusers.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/002249.html > Read the last message, and the next page of replies. Is this for real? > Woohoo if so :) > Phil > > Well, I've heard that the G400 is fantastic for everything BUT gpl. If > > you are interested in playing gpl, don't bother. It won't work. > > Rafe Mc > > >Hi! > > >I've got Celeron 300A (o/c 450MHz), 64Mb 100MHz DRAMM and > > >a Matrox Millenium G200 AGP 8Mb. > > >I've heard that there has been trouble with G400 and e.g. GPL, > > >but is there any improvements to expect while upgrading to > > >Millenium G400 AGP 16Mb? > > >Are the other 3D games running without problems in Mille G400? > > >Thanks.

Man, that's scary how similar your system is to mine... Millenium G200 8MB and a V2 1000 for GPL... I really wish GPL could run on D3D...I mean, I get a great deal better framerates and graphic quality in the Descent 3 Demo on the G200 alone than I get in GPL with the Voodoo!!! That G200 just SCREAMS in D3D... -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "Yeah you won't find me I'm going MIA Tonight I'm leaving Going MIA Getting lost in you again Is better than being known" -Foo Fighters, "MIA" > Well, I've heard that the G400 is fantastic for everything BUT gpl. If > you are interested in playing gpl, don't bother. It won't work. > Rafe Mc > >Hi! > >I've got Celeron 300A (o/c 450MHz), 64Mb 100MHz DRAMM and > >a Matrox Millenium G200 AGP 8Mb. > >I've heard that there has been trouble with G400 and e.g. GPL, > >but is there any improvements to expect while upgrading to > >Millenium G400 AGP 16Mb? > >Are the other 3D games running without problems in Mille G400? > >Thanks.

:: Man, that's scary how similar your system is to mine... :: Millenium G200 8MB and a V2 1000 for GPL... so the choice was really easy. Price for 300A was about 1/4 or so. :: I really wish GPL could run on D3D...I mean, I get a great deal better :: framerates and graphic quality in the Descent 3 Demo on the G200 alone than :: I get in GPL with the Voodoo!!! That G200 just SCREAMS in D3D... Do you mean that in some games G200 would be faster than Voodoo2? With Glide/3Dfx support for V2 or only in D3D-only games? Maybe Descent 3 has a G200 chip specific support? - Anyway, it looks like am going to by the cheapest Millenium G400 16Mb when the driver problems are over. ( And prices are reasonable. ) And add 64/128Mb of RAM. The only doubt is, do I have enough power so that I could get all the power from a G400? I guess I have, but does somebody have any experiences? J.

I don't think that D3 has chip-specific support for the G200...other games that utilize D3D well run awesome too, like ReVolt, G-Police, Need For Speed III (tho it is better on a Voodoo)... Riddle me this...do you ever have a problem with your system locking up in Windows, you reboot, it POSTs, the EPA logos at the top and the BIOS info at the bottom disappear (everything else stays), and it stops? Mine does it on occasion...I think it may be memory-related as it seems to happen more when I have more stuff open... Only thing the P2B is missing that I wish it had (and that my Abit BH6 does) is voltage control...I'm sure this Celery could go faster than 4.5x100, but it likely needs just another tenth or two...I have a PII 350 that runs nice, cool, and stable at 466 MHz (3.5x133 FSB...some good cheap PC100 memory) but it needs 2.2vCore to do so...it will run at 2.1 but not as stable, and anything lower and it starts to get funky. -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "Yeah you won't find me I'm going MIA Tonight I'm leaving Going MIA Getting lost in you again Is better than being known" -Foo Fighters, "MIA" > :: Man, that's scary how similar your system is to mine... too?), > :: Millenium G200 8MB and a V2 1000 for GPL... 500, > so the choice was really easy. Price for 300A was about 1/4 or so. > :: I really wish GPL could run on D3D...I mean, I get a great deal better > :: framerates and graphic quality in the Descent 3 Demo on the G200 alone than > :: I get in GPL with the Voodoo!!! That G200 just SCREAMS in D3D... > Do you mean that in some games G200 would be faster than Voodoo2? With > Glide/3Dfx support for V2 or only in D3D-only games? > Maybe Descent 3 has a G200 chip specific support? > - > Anyway, it looks like am going to by the cheapest Millenium G400 16Mb > when the driver problems are over. ( And prices are reasonable. ) > And add 64/128Mb of RAM. > The only doubt is, do I have enough power so that I could get all the > power from a G400? I guess I have, but does somebody have any experiences? > J.