GPL: Motorsport mag on Lotus, Eagle, and the Ring.

Tried to post this a couple of weeks back but it bounced. FYI, the Feb issue of Motorsport, an English mag now on some newstands in the US, has a "test drive" of Gurney's Eagle and a Lotus 49. In another article, they have a track report on everyone's favorite, the Nurburgring. Well worth getting. Also, "Thoroughbred and Classic Cars" (another UK mag, Feb issue), has a report on driving a BMW 3.0CSL on the 'ring. I had the pleasure of riding with their lead driver on one of his laps that day. Fortunately, I wasn't the one in the Cosworth.

Lucky bastard. I got both those mags - I'm off to the ring this year. I visited a couple of years ago but didn't have the guts to try the track. How much has the ring changed from '67 / gpl ? Would a gpl ringmeister know what to expect or is it like learning the ring again ? Cheers , Bog. PS wasn't the batmobile gorgeous? <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:88mepq$7rp8$[email hidden]... > Tried to post this a couple of weeks back but it bounced. FYI, the Febissue

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> of Motorsport, an English mag now on some newstands in the US, has a "test > drive" of Gurney's Eagle and a Lotus 49. In another article, they have a > track report on everyone's favorite, the Nurburgring. Well worth getting. > > Also, "Thoroughbred and Classic Cars" (another UK mag, Feb issue), has a > report on driving a BMW 3.0CSL on the 'ring. I had the pleasure of riding > with their lead driver on one of his laps that day. Fortunately, I wasn't

the > one in the Cosworth.

Bog If you know the ring on GPL you will be OK at the real Ring. Go to www.hyperstim.com and click on LATEST NEWS 'Crooke drives the real Nurburgring' and you can see comparision track shots from the cockpit between GPL and the way it is now. Regards Jon Crooke _____________________________________________ "THE WORLD'S BEST HOME RACING CAR SIMULATOR" HYPER STIMULATOR INTERNATIONAL P/L Offical Home Page <www.hyperstim.com> DISTRIBUTORS US/Canada <www.hyperstimcanada.com> Europe <www.bernax nl> Australia <www.hyperstim.com> Official Supplier of Hyper Stimulators to: Williams Engineering (UK) Players Racing Simulator Challenge Tour (Canada) <www.players-racing.com> Kool Racing Challenge Tour (USA) Holden Racing Team (Australia) Castrol Racing (Perkins Racing Australia) Shell Racing (Dick Johnson Racing Australia) Audi Racing (Brad Jones Racing Australia) Mitre 10 Racing (Australia) Australian Grand Prix (Australian Grand Prix Corporation) ---------- In article <eZY3CG#e$GA.284@cpmsnbbsa04>, "wheetos" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Lucky bastard. I got both those mags - I'm off to the ring this year. I > visited a couple of years ago but didn't have the guts to try the track. How > much has the ring changed from '67 / gpl ? Would a gpl ringmeister know what > to expect or is it like learning the ring again ? > > Cheers , Bog. PS wasn't the batmobile gorgeous? > > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:88mepq$7rp8$[email hidden]... >> Tried to post this a couple of weeks back but it bounced. FYI, the Feb > issue >> of Motorsport, an English mag now on some newstands in the US, has a "test >> drive" of Gurney's Eagle and a Lotus 49. In another article, they have a >> track report on everyone's favorite, the Nurburgring. Well worth getting. >> >> Also, "Thoroughbred and Classic Cars" (another UK mag, Feb issue), has a >> report on driving a BMW 3.0CSL on the 'ring. I had the pleasure of riding >> with their lead driver on one of his laps that day. Fortunately, I wasn't > the >> one in the Cosworth. > >

And you can read my report around the Ring at http://fgplc.figc.net/Nordschleife/nordschleife.htm Regards, Hena Jon Crooke wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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>Bog > >If you know the ring on GPL you will be OK at the real Ring. >Go to www.hyperstim.com and click on LATEST NEWS 'Crooke drives the real >Nurburgring' and you can see comparision track shots from the cockpit >between GPL and the way it is now. > >Regards >Jon Crooke > >_____________________________________________ >"THE WORLD'S BEST HOME RACING CAR SIMULATOR" >HYPER STIMULATOR INTERNATIONAL P/L > >Offical Home Page <www.hyperstim.com> > >DISTRIBUTORS >US/Canada <www.hyperstimcanada.com> >Europe <www.bernax nl> >Australia <www.hyperstim.com> > >Official Supplier of Hyper Stimulators to: > Williams Engineering (UK) > Players Racing Simulator Challenge Tour (Canada) ><www.players-racing.com> > Kool Racing Challenge Tour (USA) > Holden Racing Team (Australia) > Castrol Racing (Perkins Racing Australia) > Shell Racing (Dick Johnson Racing Australia) > Audi Racing (Brad Jones Racing Australia) > Mitre 10 Racing (Australia) > Australian Grand Prix (Australian Grand Prix Corporation) > > >---------- >In article <eZY3CG#e$GA.284@cpmsnbbsa04>, "wheetos"

<[email hidden]> >wrote: > > >> Lucky bastard. I got both those mags - I'm off to the ring this year. I >> visited a couple of years ago but didn't have the guts to try the track.How >> much has the ring changed from '67 / gpl ? Would a gpl ringmeister knowwhat

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>> to expect or is it like learning the ring again ? >> >> Cheers , Bog. PS wasn't the batmobile gorgeous? >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:88mepq$7rp8$[email hidden]... >>> Tried to post this a couple of weeks back but it bounced. FYI, the Feb >> issue >>> of Motorsport, an English mag now on some newstands in the US, has a

"test >>> drive" of Gurney's Eagle and a Lotus 49. In another article, they havea >>> track report on everyone's favorite, the Nurburgring. Well worthgetting. >>> >>> Also, "Thoroughbred and Classic Cars" (another UK mag, Feb issue), has a >>> report on driving a BMW 3.0CSL on the 'ring. I had the pleasure ofriding >>> with their lead driver on one of his laps that day. Fortunately, Iwasn't >> the >>> one in the Cosworth. >> >>

>Just to be a pain, any chance of a scan and posting?????? >What was the verdict on the eagle vs the lotus? Lotus quickest, Eagle prettiest, best sounding, and most forgiving[1]. So no surprises there then... [1] Although the Lotus is, apparently rather less intimidating than the unforgiving beast we get in GPL... -- JG

Just to be a pain, any chance of a scan and posting?????? What was the verdict on the eagle vs the lotus? Rafe Mc On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:53:46 +0000, robswindells <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>And what about the 'passing shot' in the back of that particular magazine? Pages >92/93 if I remember correctly. Fantastic photo :o) > >[email hidden] wrote: > >> Tried to post this a couple of weeks back but it bounced. FYI, the Feb issue >> of Motorsport, an English mag now on some newstands in the US, has a "test >> drive" of Gurney's Eagle and a Lotus 49. In another article, they have a >> track report on everyone's favorite, the Nurburgring. Well worth getting. >> >> Also, "Thoroughbred and Classic Cars" (another UK mag, Feb issue), has a >> report on driving a BMW 3.0CSL on the 'ring. I had the pleasure of riding >> with their lead driver on one of his laps that day. Fortunately, I wasn't the >> one in the Cosworth.

>>Just to be a pain, any chance of a scan and posting?????? Sorry, no scanner. Others?? They did mention that both had more modern compound tires and while the Eagle was on '67-type widths, the Lotus was using much wider '69 vintage width. They were concilliatory in congratulating Gurney et al for being competitive working on such a shoe-string budget against a seasoned Lotus and deep-pocketed Ford. Nice photo spread...

Err, thanks, I guess :-) I know how you feel. Took a bit of workup of the old courage to try it. And after each lap, I had to let the adrenalin die down. Thinking each time, "another lap? No! Yes! No! ...Well, okay..." I only had a few hours of GPL "ring practice before I left. So I was not that familiar. Besides, how much do you really want to trust your memory when it there is no "shift-R" on your body? :-) Since running it, I've done countless laps on it in GPL. Maybe I'll have to give it another try. Oh, both Adenau and Pfanzgarten had me scared silly in that I'd embarass myself in front of the locals. But yes, you'll have a leg up by your running the sim. And after 3 or so laps, you start remembering more. The Batmobile was sweet. So were the Ferrari 355 F1, 3 Elises, two Porsche GT3's, Caterham, many tricked out Schnitzer BMW's, Cosworths, etc, etc. It's like being in a rolling museum. Most passing my lowly 4-cyl A4...

ALL of the 1967 GP cars were, and still are, less than the beasts that GPL would have us believe. ALL of them....Brabham included. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

: They did mention that both had more modern compound tires and while the Eagle : was on '67-type widths, the Lotus was using much wider '69 vintage width. : They were concilliatory in congratulating Gurney et al for being competitive : working on such a shoe-string budget against a seasoned Lotus and : deep-pocketed Ford. I also thought the article rather unfair since it seemed to me that the Lotus 49B they were using _should_ have had front wings attached. It certainly seemed to having mounting points and in the picture with Hill driving it it had front wings. To remove them and then complain of chronic understeer seemed churlish. -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html

Any more churlish than comparing a 67 Eagle with a winged car. The Lotus was essentially the same car in 69 albeit with a few mods and the wings. The article in question, in all fairness ,did state that the very cold temperatures made it almost impossible to heat the tyres up and this contributed to the understeer. MS

If the 49 was set up to comply with Formula Adelaide rules, or even the new Thoroughbred rules, then wings are not allowed. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- > : They did mention that both had more modern compound tires and while the Eagle > : was on '67-type widths, the Lotus was using much wider '69 vintage width. > : They were concilliatory in congratulating Gurney et al for being competitive > : working on such a shoe-string budget against a seasoned Lotus and > : deep-pocketed Ford. > I also thought the article rather unfair since it seemed to me that > the Lotus 49B they were using _should_ have had front wings attached. > It certainly seemed to having mounting points and in the picture with > Hill driving it it had front wings. > To remove them and then complain of chronic understeer seemed churlish. > -- > Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving > Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group > Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York > www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----