double voodoo????

Is it possible to get better fps by installing a second voodoo card? Or do I have to save the money and get a faster CPU? I now have Compaq Presario 5676 PII 450 mHz 256 Mb PC100 Ram 10 Gb Harddrive 3dfx Voodoo 3 3000 AGP card Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

You should be getting the max fps with one voodoo2 if it is a 12mb card. Papy have said sli wont help their sims and may slow them a bit.

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> Is it possible to get better fps by installing a second voodoo card? > Or do I have to save the money and get a faster CPU? > I now have > Compaq Presario 5676 > PII 450 mHz > 256 Mb PC100 Ram > 10 Gb Harddrive > 3dfx Voodoo 3 3000 AGP card > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

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In offline races with 19 AI competitors I can feel how crowded the area around me is by the drop in fps. In the start it drops to something like 12-15 fps - I want 36 all the way Thomas > You should be getting the max fps with one voodoo2 if it is a 12mb > card. Papy have said sli wont help their sims and may slow them a bit.

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> > Is it possible to get better fps by installing a second voodoo card? > > Or do I have to save the money and get a faster CPU? > > I now have > > Compaq Presario 5676 > > PII 450 mHz > > 256 Mb PC100 Ram > > 10 Gb Harddrive > > 3dfx Voodoo 3 3000 AGP card > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

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Unfortunately, you cannot run V3's in SLI, it ONLY works with V2's. Your V3 3000 is a little faster than V2 sli anyway. You might want to download a V3 overclocker (from 3Dfiles.com) You should get a few more Good luck Ivan

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> > You should be getting the max fps with one voodoo2 if it is a 12mb > > card. Papy have said sli wont help their sims and may slow them a > bit. > > > Is it possible to get better fps by installing a second voodoo

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> > > Or do I have to save the money and get a faster CPU? > > > I now have > > > Compaq Presario 5676 > > > PII 450 mHz > > > 256 Mb PC100 Ram > > > 10 Gb Harddrive > > > 3dfx Voodoo 3 3000 AGP card > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > Before you buy. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

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How much do you think I can overclock it to? And what about overclocking the PII 450 mhz? Thanks for the tip Thomas > Unfortunately, you cannot run V3's in SLI, it ONLY works with V2's. Your > V3 3000 is a little faster than V2 sli anyway. You might want to > download a V3 overclocker (from 3Dfiles.com) You should get a few more and

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> Good luck > Ivan > > > You should be getting the max fps with one voodoo2 if it is a 12mb > > > card. Papy have said sli wont help their sims and may slow them a > > bit. > > > > Is it possible to get better fps by installing a second voodoo > card? > > > > Or do I have to save the money and get a faster CPU? > > > > I now have > > > > Compaq Presario 5676 > > > > PII 450 mHz > > > > 256 Mb PC100 Ram > > > > 10 Gb Harddrive > > > > 3dfx Voodoo 3 3000 AGP card > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > > Before you buy. > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > Before you buy. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

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>Is it possible to get better fps by installing a second voodoo card? >Or do I have to save the money and get a faster CPU? >I now have >Compaq Presario 5676 >PII 450 mHz >256 Mb PC100 Ram >10 Gb Harddrive >3dfx Voodoo 3 3000 AGP card

Not with the Voodoo 3 you can't. The Voodoo 2 was the only 3Dfx card with SLI capability. The Voodoo 4, 5 and 6 should all include this feature however. Which games are you having frame rate trouble with? With your setup you should be having excellent performance, perhaps with only slight drop in frame rate when a lot is happening on screen. The Pentium II 450MHz is still a very decent processor. Don't get caught up in all the hype of the K7's and P3's and think that you're system is slow. It's not. 256MB of RAM certainly won't need upgrading for ages yet. And a Voodoo 3 is an excellent 3D accelerator, which won't need upgrading for some time yet too. But of course, if you really are interested in nothing but the highest resolutions and best possible frame rates, I'd be happy to recommend some upgrades you could make. Let me know. Neo

What fps are you getting now and at what detail? Just in case you don't know, fps is maxed at around 36 in GPL so if you're looking for frame rates of 50 or something it won't happen. I have 36 on my P2-400 with a V3 3000 everywhere except for starts in large fields at high detail.

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> Is it possible to get better fps by installing a second voodoo card? > Or do I have to save the money and get a faster CPU? > I now have > Compaq Presario 5676 > PII 450 mHz > 256 Mb PC100 Ram > 10 Gb Harddrive > 3dfx Voodoo 3 3000 AGP card > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

I've heard that by using a second VDx card, all you can achieve is a better res. There are no frame rate differences. I have a single VD2 and can run at 800x600, It would be an awesome site to see everything in 1200x1600 :) Having only one card doesn't make me any kind of authority on the subject, so don't take my word on it.

Hello Michael, It would be a waste of money in my opinion to buy a Voodoo2 card with the Voodoo3 in your machine now. You already have plenty of memory and a decent Harddrive so I would recommend going to a PIII, you may have to upgrade your Bios first but that is easily done. I would then wait for the next generation 3dfx/nVIDIA cards to come out (should be in the next few months) or buy a GEForce 256 now. I hope this helps but try and remember this is just my opinion and what I would do in your situation. Good luck.

> Unfortunately, you cannot run V3's in SLI, it ONLY works with V2's. Your > V3 3000 is a little faster than V2 sli anyway. You might want to > download a V3 overclocker (from 3Dfiles.com) You should get a few more only having a single VD2 and the most recent drivers for this card, I wonder if a VD3 driver would work? Is there anyone out there with experience in this?

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> In offline races with 19 AI competitors I can feel how crowded the area > around me is by the drop in fps. > In the start it drops to something like 12-15 fps - I want 36 all the > way > Thomas

This is almost entirely CPU dependant. A while back, I borrowed a 2nd V2 to run GPL in SLI. There was no noticeable diference. I've since purchased a V3 - same story. I get higher resolution, but the V3's higher fill rates don't do much for GPL. - Greg -- Note! Anti-spam tactics engaged! Remove the duplicate "g" and "s" before replying.

> > Unfortunately, you cannot run V3's in SLI, it ONLY works with V2's. Your > > V3 3000 is a little faster than V2 sli anyway. You might want to > > download a V3 overclocker (from 3Dfiles.com) You should get a few more and > only having a single VD2 and the most recent drivers for this card, I > wonder if a VD3 driver would work? Is there anyone out there with > experience in this? I would think not. I wouldn't suggest even trying it. It's a hardware limitation, not a driver limitation. (of course the V2 drivers could probably be improved) Ivan Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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> How much do you think I can overclock it to? > And what about overclocking the PII 450 mhz? > Thanks for the tip > Thomas

Your V3 default speed is 166mhz. You can try overclocking in 2-3mhz increments. Some V3 3000's have gone to 180 and beyond, but some cannot break 170. Every V3 is different. You will usually see "visual artifacts" before you damage your V3 or lock up your system (in which case just restart your computer and lower the speed). A fan blowing over the V3 heatsink will usually help you get the maximun results. Your P2 450 on the other hand could be very difficult to overclock because of the "compaq" motherboard. Unless Compaq tells you which jumpers to change (and they probably wont) your out of luck. Even upgrading your processor could prove difficult. Like someone else said though, don't worry about that, the P2 450 is no slouch. Make sure you have all unnecesary background programs are shut down when your playing. This can make a huge difference (although with 256meg it may not). Type "msconfig" in the run menu and look for "startup items" You can uncheck most of those programs (especially the antivirus programs) except for systray and explorer. Good luck! Ivan Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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>Subject: Re: double voodoo???? >Date: 02/17/2000 11:05 AM Eastern Standard Time >> How much do you think I can overclock it to? >> And what about overclocking the PII 450 mhz? >> Thanks for the tip >> Thomas >Your V3 default speed is 166mhz. You can try overclocking in 2-3mhz >increments. Some V3 3000's have gone to 180 and beyond, but some cannot >break 170. Every V3 is different. You will usually see "visual >artifacts" before you damage your V3 or lock up your system (in which >case just restart your computer and lower the speed). A fan blowing over >the V3 heatsink will usually help you get the maximun results. >Your P2 450 on the other hand could be very difficult to overclock >because of the "compaq" motherboard. Unless Compaq tells you which >jumpers to change (and they probably wont) your out of luck. Even >upgrading your processor could prove difficult. >Like someone else said though, don't worry about that, the P2 450 is no >slouch. Make sure you have all unnecesary background programs are shut >down when your playing. This can make a huge difference (although with >256meg it may not). Type "msconfig" in the run menu and look for >"startup items" You can uncheck most of those programs (especially the >antivirus programs) except for systray and explorer. >Good luck! >Ivan >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy.

Rather than going through the "msconfig" thing which works nicely too, I prefer to just do "alt-ctrl-del" then end task on the unwanted items. this way anything you want in your normal startup (for those silly enough to use their computers for nonsense like non-game programs too) will still be there every time you boot up. either way stuff like antivirus can reduce your performance...... (Don't use NO***in E-mail) You think in the storm we've found the eye of the calm.....Bill Mallonnee, Vigilantes Of Love