Could this be the reason GPL doesn't sell??

I've finally blown it... After almost two years of messing with this sim, After constant practice, After numerous hardware upgrades with GPL in mind (including a LWFF), After all the hints, advice, setups, etc., from the various web sites After day after day of hundred lap practices, After completely alienating my wife, ...this is all I've got to show for myself... 1:24:50 all-out, kamikaze, shift-r every other lap, personal best at Mosport (Ferrari) 1:06:00 same as above, at Watkins Glen (Lotus) 1:28:00 same as above, at Monza (Ferrari -- OK, that one's not so bad) I don't even want to mention Monaco, Mexico or Spa, and I have never really gotten far enough in the game to drive any of the other tracks. And after all that, I am told I'm still a good 3 seconds off the pace, at least...Well...I know I must be doing something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with this thing...Any help? Completely in awe of most of you, Luis "Lawnmower" Soto

I bought it the day it came out. You are better than me. In truth the sim is really that difficult. It's not that you are doing anything wrong, you (and I) are not Jim Clark, or even Jo Bonnier for that matter. I've moved on the DTR and SCGT! buzard

Hmm... two years ?????? Must had stole an early alpha version ;) Whatever the situation, your subject is in no-way related to your message. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

I've done the same as you and am in the same position as you are now, so your not alone but I'm going to persevere because if nothing else it good relaxing way to end winter evenings without doing something to do with work or spending money in the pub? which has got to help when the wife barks. Regards Bob

I do have the hardware to run the game but the game is really, really difficult. It takes too much concentration on driving. Driving in GPL is not "fun" but is carefully planned. Maybe that was the way cars behaved back then. Breaking in the corners, you are dead. One of the wheel locks up during breaking, you are dead. Applying too much throttle on exiting a sharp turn, you are dead. It gets scary when the Als are behind you. If you are too slow in entering a turn, some of them will ramp into you. Those cars are not that forgiving.

t... throttle on exiting a Sounds almost like real life doesn't it?

I guess so but all I drive is my Ford Escort 92. The speed tops out at 85 mhp. :-)

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> t... > > I do have the hardware to run the game but the game is > really, really > > difficult. It takes too much concentration on driving. > Driving in GPL is > > not "fun" but is carefully planned. Maybe that was the > way cars behaved > > back then. Breaking in the corners, you are dead. One of > the wheel locks > > up during breaking, you are dead. Applying too much > throttle on exiting a > > sharp turn, you are dead. > Sounds almost like real life doesn't it?

It does help when the wife barks...although I struggle to explain such *** to her. After reading the thread my post has started, I calmed down, got in a better mood, and turned that 1:24:50 into a 1:24:40. HEY, I'll take a thousandth at a time, and thank you all, for the encouragement, and the slap in the face I sorely needed... Are we sure this is only a game? Luis "Slightly Faster Lawnmower" Soto > I've done the same as you and am in the same position as you are now, so > your not alone but I'm going to persevere because if nothing else it good > relaxing way to end winter evenings without doing something to do with work

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> or spending money in the pub? which has got to help when the wife barks. > Regards > Bob > > I've finally blown it... > > After almost two years of messing with this sim, > > After constant practice, > > After numerous hardware upgrades with GPL in mind (including a LWFF), > > After all the hints, advice, setups, etc., from the various web sites > > After day after day of hundred lap practices, > > After completely alienating my wife, > > ...this is all I've got to show for myself... > > 1:24:50 all-out, kamikaze, shift-r every other lap, personal best at > Mosport > > (Ferrari) > > 1:06:00 same as above, at Watkins Glen (Lotus) > > 1:28:00 same as above, at Monza (Ferrari -- OK, that one's not so bad) > > I don't even want to mention Monaco, Mexico or Spa, and I have never > really > > gotten far enough in the game to drive any of the other tracks. And

after > > all that, I am told I'm still a good 3 seconds off the pace, at > > least...Well...I know I must be doing something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with > > this thing...Any help? > > Completely in awe of most of you, > > Luis "Lawnmower" Soto

Oh, come 'on. That's just a bit over the top, I'd say. --DK

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> Whatever the situation, your subject is in no-way related to your message. > -- > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't

realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

I have been playing this sim for about a year now and i have times very close to yours. I always tell myself I'm going to go faster and sometimes months go by and nothing, then all of a sudden my times fall a little bit more and I'm hooked again. My wife has given up the idea of the other woman but i think she's not sure which would take more of my time. Everytime i make an upgrade to my computer it is only to make GPL happy, I don't play anything else on my computer, I'm ***ed. One thing i can't figure is how these guys do a 3.13 at spa, the best i can do in the eagle is a 3.21 and i figure I'm flying and that is after about a 1000 laps. Anyways don't get me started after drinking a few beers and racing, I just love this sim. Good luck everyone with your times and remember don't give up just keep plugging away sooner or later you will be there with the best. Steve!

If you compare yourself to the fastest laps of all time you will probably will just get frustrated, race your own race and just try to beat your own PB's. The best way to improve is to know ALL the tracks. Each track need's to be driven in a certain way and you'll learn more skills because of it. With all the skills you have learnt at other tracks you can use them at one track and turn a fast time. You will not learn much if you just race Monza and the Glen all the time.

I've been at it nearly as long and am only a bit slower than you. Recently I have downloaded the replays of a couple of the hotlappers and started studying them. I THINK it is helping. I refuse to give up. And yes, I think so, in answer to you subj. question. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Exactly what I was thinking when I read that!! :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- > t... > > I do have the hardware to run the game but the game is > really, really > > difficult. It takes too much concentration on driving. > Driving in GPL is > > not "fun" but is carefully planned. Maybe that was the > way cars behaved > > back then. Breaking in the corners, you are dead. One of > the wheel locks > > up during breaking, you are dead. Applying too much > throttle on exiting a > > sharp turn, you are dead. > Sounds almost like real life doesn't it? -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

That was a TENTH, wasn't it? There you go.....a bigger improvement than you thought! :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- > It does help when the wife barks...although I struggle to explain such > *** to her. > After reading the thread my post has started, I calmed down, got in a better > mood, and turned that 1:24:50 into a 1:24:40. HEY, I'll take a thousandth > at a time, and thank you all, for the encouragement, and the slap in the > face I sorely needed... > Are we sure this is only a game? > Luis "Slightly Faster Lawnmower" Soto > > I've done the same as you and am in the same position as you are now, so > > your not alone but I'm going to persevere because if nothing else it good > > relaxing way to end winter evenings without doing something to do with > work > > or spending money in the pub? which has got to help when the wife barks. > > Regards > > Bob > > > I've finally blown it... > > > After almost two years of messing with this sim, > > > After constant practice, > > > After numerous hardware upgrades with GPL in mind (including a LWFF), > > > After all the hints, advice, setups, etc., from the various web sites > > > After day after day of hundred lap practices, > > > After completely alienating my wife, > > > ...this is all I've got to show for myself... > > > 1:24:50 all-out, kamikaze, shift-r every other lap, personal best at > > Mosport > > > (Ferrari) > > > 1:06:00 same as above, at Watkins Glen (Lotus) > > > 1:28:00 same as above, at Monza (Ferrari -- OK, that one's not so bad) > > > I don't even want to mention Monaco, Mexico or Spa, and I have never > > really > > > gotten far enough in the game to drive any of the other tracks. And > after > > > all that, I am told I'm still a good 3 seconds off the pace, at > > > least...Well...I know I must be doing something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with > > > this thing...Any help? > > > Completely in awe of most of you, > > > Luis "Lawnmower" Soto -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

> Whatever the situation, your subject is in no-way related to your message. > -- > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Huh?? He's clearly stating an opinion that the difficulty factor in this sim appears to be part of the sales problem with this sim. In his opinion. Then he backs up his premise with personal hard numbers & asks for assistance. Geez. You'd think he'd made a compliment on a Ubi product. ;-) -- /Chuck Kandler #70 /ChuckK on Won.net & WinVROC /K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 /The box said "Windows 0x5f or better", so I installed LINUX!

geeesh, stop being an a-hole.

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> > After almost two years of messing with this sim, > Hmm... two years ?????? Must had stole an early alpha version ;) > Whatever the situation, your subject is in no-way related to your message. > -- > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't

realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Yeeeesssshhh... I think people misunderstood the thing. I just wanted to say that actually if he spent all that time racing GPL, it's because he's ***ed, even if it's frustrating. He bought it, good for him. It sold extremely well to the market it aimed for... And it's people like him, you and me ;) -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Like I said.. my post was actually not as a flame whatsoever. Probably took the wrong words. What I wanted to say is that since he took all that time, it was actually benefitial for him. Why wouldn't he want to spend all that time if he didn't liked it ? ;) The reason GPL did not sell principally to the mainstream market is the saturation of the *** market, coupled with the era of those Formula 1. Those quakers just didn't care, which wasn't necessary a bad thing. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

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> > Huh?? He's clearly stating an opinion that the difficulty factor in > > this sim appears to be part of the sales problem with this sim. In his > > opinion. Then he backs up his premise with personal hard numbers & asks > > for assistance. > Like I said.. my post was actually not as a flame whatsoever. Probably took > the wrong words. What I wanted to say is that since he took all that time, > it was actually benefitial for him. Why wouldn't he want to spend all that > time if he didn't liked it ? ;)

My apologies then. It sure sounded like a cranky flame on something that was obvious on the face of it. Your meaning must have gotten lost in the translation from French to English. ;-) -- /Chuck Kandler #70 /ChuckK on Won.net & WinVROC /K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 /The box said "Windows 0x5f or better", so I installed LINUX!

Ooop--my goof. I only realized there were at least two meanings for what you had written *after* I sent my own finger-shaking, high-school librarianized wisecrack. A lesson learned about overquick reactions . . . apologies to you and the list ! David K. > > Oh, come 'on. That's just a bit over the top, I'd say. > > --DK > Yeeeesssshhh... > I think people misunderstood the thing. I just wanted to say that actually

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> if he spent all that time racing GPL, it's because he's ***ed, even if > it's frustrating. He bought it, good for him. It sold extremely well to > the market it aimed for... And it's people like him, you and me ;) > -- > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't

realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.