Do F1 cars have gated shifters?

Brandon Crick of Act Labs posted on their forum that F1-2000 will support the RS Shifter. I was thinking that might feel kinda wierd because it's my impression that all F1 drivers use paddles on the wheel to shift. Do they have gated shifters down below as well? --David Cook

I'm pretty sure that all the drivers use the paddle system. I do know that Damon hill had a clutch pedal rather then a clutch button. Take a look at this months F-1 mag. It has the***pit layouts for the 99 Jordan as well as the 65 Lotus! Al Stiff

No all F1 cars have sequential paddle gears but I think games will be including support for this anyway because if you have it, must be great to use. And if a game doesn't support new devices it looks a little bad. > I'm pretty sure that all the drivers use the paddle system. I do know that > Damon hill had a clutch pedal rather then a clutch button. Take a look at > this months F-1 mag. It has the***pit layouts for the 99 Jordan as well as > the 65 Lotus! > Al Stiff > > Brandon Crick of Act Labs posted on their forum that F1-2000 will support > > the RS Shifter. I was thinking that might feel kinda wierd because it's > my > > impression that all F1 drivers use paddles on the wheel to shift. Do they > > have gated shifters down below as well? > > --David Cook

No. F1 cars use paddles with a sequential shift. > Brandon Crick of Act Labs posted on their forum that F1-2000 will support > the RS Shifter. I was thinking that might feel kinda wierd because it's my > impression that all F1 drivers use paddles on the wheel to shift. Do they > have gated shifters down below as well? > --David Cook

Ferrari introduced "semi-automatic" gearbox at the 89' Brazil GP(Mansell became the 1st driver to have a "5 wheels change" Pit Stop when they also replaced the steering wheel due to electrical malfuntion with the gearbox, but he still managed to Win)... he!he! It was developped by Mauro Forghieri in the early 80's and tested by Gilles Villeneuve before beeig reintroduced by John Barnard on the "Ferrari 640"... Williams-Renault was the 2nd team to use one in 91'. By 95', virtually all teams had Semi-Automatic Gearboxes with "steering paddle shifting"(first steps for smaller teams was to use sequential gearboxes the previous years, and then, incorporate the hydraulics & electronics to make it Semi-Auto...) A Semi-Auto gearbox cannot have a gated shifter cause it has to be sequential(works like a motorcycle transmission), so only paddles are used to change gears... Cheers! Chris Roy NB: The "Act Labs RS Shifter" would be fun & realistic on older F1 & GT/Prototypes... GPL would be the best Sim to use realisticly the "RS Shifter".... :-( (GT/Prototypes, Rally cars, Touring cars, even F3000/F-Atlantic, etc, now all use Semi-Auto or at least, Sequential gearboxes) > Brandon Crick of Act Labs posted on their forum that F1-2000 will support > the RS Shifter. I was thinking that might feel kinda wierd because it's my > impression that all F1 drivers use paddles on the wheel to shift. Do they > have gated shifters down below as well? > --David Cook

I remember a racing journalist once noting that, if you actually look at the history of the sport, Ferrari has been somewhat of an innovator (of course, usually we give Lotus the crown for that). Other notable Ferrari firsts? Transverse gearbox comes to mind (312T-series, mid-70s . . .) --DK > Ferrari introduced "semi-automatic" gearbox at the 89' Brazil GP(Mansell became > the 1st driver to have a "5 wheels change" Pit Stop when they also replaced the > steering wheel due to electrical malfuntion with the gearbox, but he still > managed to Win)... he!he! > It was developped by Mauro Forghieri in the early 80's and tested by Gilles > Villeneuve before beeig reintroduced by John Barnard on the "Ferrari 640"... > Williams-Renault was the 2nd team to use one in 91'. > By 95', virtually all teams had Semi-Automatic Gearboxes with "steering paddle > shifting"(first steps for smaller teams was to use sequential gearboxes the > previous years, and then, incorporate the hydraulics & electronics to make it > Semi-Auto...) > A Semi-Auto gearbox cannot have a gated shifter cause it has to be > sequential(works like a motorcycle transmission), so only paddles are used to

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> change gears... > Cheers! > Chris Roy > NB: The "Act Labs RS Shifter" would be fun & realistic on older F1 & > GT/Prototypes... > GPL would be the best Sim to use realisticly the "RS Shifter".... :-( > (GT/Prototypes, Rally cars, Touring cars, even F3000/F-Atlantic, etc, now

all > use Semi-Auto or at least, Sequential gearboxes) > > Brandon Crick of Act Labs posted on their forum that F1-2000 will support > > the RS Shifter. I was thinking that might feel kinda wierd because it's my > > impression that all F1 drivers use paddles on the wheel to shift. Do they > > have gated shifters down below as well? > > --David Cook

The main reason for a sequential gearbox is the greatly reduced time to change gears so the drive is only interrupted for a fraction of the time of a normal manual gearbox. The limitation of the system (so far) is that it has to be sequential. I have a feeling that if you could actually directly select any gear with a computer controlled transmission, that would also be a great thing. Maybe the RS shifter will be an unfair advantage? The FIA may have to ban it... ;-) Regards, Zenon On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:51:13 -0600, "David Karr"

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>I remember a racing journalist once noting that, if you actually look at the >history of the sport, Ferrari has been somewhat of an innovator (of course, >usually we give Lotus the crown for that). >Other notable Ferrari firsts? Transverse gearbox comes to mind >(312T-series, mid-70s . . .) >--DK >> Ferrari introduced "semi-automatic" gearbox at the 89' Brazil GP(Mansell >became >> the 1st driver to have a "5 wheels change" Pit Stop when they also >replaced the >> steering wheel due to electrical malfuntion with the gearbox, but he still >> managed to Win)... he!he! >> It was developped by Mauro Forghieri in the early 80's and tested by >Gilles >> Villeneuve before beeig reintroduced by John Barnard on the "Ferrari >640"... >> Williams-Renault was the 2nd team to use one in 91'. >> By 95', virtually all teams had Semi-Automatic Gearboxes with "steering >paddle >> shifting"(first steps for smaller teams was to use sequential gearboxes >the >> previous years, and then, incorporate the hydraulics & electronics to make >it >> Semi-Auto...) >> A Semi-Auto gearbox cannot have a gated shifter cause it has to be >> sequential(works like a motorcycle transmission), so only paddles are used >to >> change gears... >> Cheers! >> Chris Roy >> NB: The "Act Labs RS Shifter" would be fun & realistic on older F1 & >> GT/Prototypes... >> GPL would be the best Sim to use realisticly the "RS Shifter".... :-( >> (GT/Prototypes, Rally cars, Touring cars, even F3000/F-Atlantic, etc, now >all >> use Semi-Auto or at least, Sequential gearboxes) >> > Brandon Crick of Act Labs posted on their forum that F1-2000 will >support >> > the RS Shifter. I was thinking that might feel kinda wierd because it's >my >> > impression that all F1 drivers use paddles on the wheel to shift. Do >they >> > have gated shifters down below as well? >> > --David Cook

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> The main reason for a sequential gearbox is the greatly reduced time > to change gears so the drive is only interrupted for a fraction of the > time of a normal manual gearbox. The limitation of the system (so far) > is that it has to be sequential. > > I have a feeling that if you could actually directly select any gear > with a computer controlled transmission, that would also be a great > thing. Maybe the RS shifter will be an unfair advantage? The FIA may > have to ban it... ;-)

I'm *sure* that some of the current Formula One cars have a 'shift down three gears' lever... it's handy for things like La Source (Spa). The 1998 Jordan had such a device, apparently it went from 5th to 2nd in one flick. -- Richard. "Michelle, ma belle. These are words that go together well, my Michelle."