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What is trail braking?

13 posts by 10 people · 05 Feb 2000 - 09 Feb 2000 01:04 UTC

tampa 05 Feb 2000#518190
I cant find any place that explains it.
Pat Dotson 05 Feb 2000#518193
> I cant find any place that explains it. The safest way to use the brakes is to do it in a straight line, and finish braking before turning into a corner. When trail braking, you start using the brakes a bit later and continue braking after you turn into the corner. It can be done with brake and gas on a single control axis. It is, however, more effective to use 'left foot braking' with split axis pedals. Then you can feed in some throttle to stabilize the car while you are using the brakes. -- Pat Dotson IMPACT Motorsports http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html
GTX_SlotCar 05 Feb 2000#518194
I'll probably get in trouble for this one. Trail braking doesn't necessarily mean you are applying the brakes, just that you are decelerating through the beginning of the corner, and maybe as late as the apex. Keep Tom Pabst's quotes in mind, "use trail braking sparingly" and "the fastest way to go slow is to brake too late". If you trail brake with a single axis pedal system, you are in effect, just slowing down. Some single axis pedals use only one pot for gas and brake. Applying gas rotates the pot shaft, and applying brake rotates the pot case in the same direction, which of course has the same effect as taking your foot off the gas. Others use 2 pots, but the brake and gas just counteract each other. The CH Products EXL 500 used to use 2 pots and now only uses one. With split axis, you can apply brake and gas at the same time and GPL (does it best) and some other games will recognize the forces applied by both. Thus you can squat the car (while braking) and accelerate at the same time. Also, if you're not heavy on front brake bias, you can apply brakes to put pressure on the front wheels and still accelerate through a corner. Slot
GTX_SlotCar 05 Feb 2000#518195
In fact, I still have one. I used to include them in all *** computers I built for people too. Nice fat wheel with good resistence, spring driven not bungee cords. I used mine for a long, long time, not caring for anything else I tried until I finally tried the Andretti Racing Wheel (digital) for $20 more. Very good resolution, but still no split axis. I'd have to agree that the EXL500 with split axis pedals would be a nice unit. Slot BTW, I like the trailer on your posts. "Super genius" and then you mispell 'realize'. Good sense of humor. ;) > > The CH Products EXL 500 used to use 2 pots and now only uses > > one. > FYI, the only thing that seperates the EXL 500 from being the best plastic > wheel on the market are it's pedals. Take 40$ and go buy the standard CH > Pedals to go with them. You'll have seperate axis, plus your standard wheel
Quoted text (8 lines)> pedals that you can use for other things (like a clutch in GPL). > -- > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
ymenard 06 Feb 2000#518355
FYI, the only thing that seperates the EXL 500 from being the best plastic wheel on the market are it's pedals. Take 40$ and go buy the standard CH Pedals to go with them. You'll have seperate axis, plus your standard wheel pedals that you can use for other things (like a clutch in GPL). -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
He didn't mispell it. That's the English spelling.
Quoted text (23 lines)> Slot > BTW, I like the trailer on your posts. "Super genius" and then you mispell > 'realize'. Good sense of humor. ;) > > > The CH Products EXL 500 used to use 2 pots and now only uses > > > one. > > FYI, the only thing that seperates the EXL 500 from being the best plastic > > wheel on the market are it's pedals. Take 40$ and go buy the standard CH > > Pedals to go with them. You'll have seperate axis, plus your standard > wheel > > pedals that you can use for other things (like a clutch in GPL). > > -- > > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> > > -- May the Downforce be with you... > > "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
KK 08 Feb 2000#518540
indeed... realiSe is Shakespeare spelling and realiZe is Aaron 'Spelling'. he, rosbif, et Mr Bean il dit comment ? > He didn't mispell it. That's the English spelling. > > Slot > > BTW, I like the trailer on your posts. "Super genius" and then you mispell
Quoted text (10 lines)> > 'realize'. Good sense of humor. ;) > > > > The CH Products EXL 500 used to use 2 pots and now only uses > > > > one. > > > FYI, the only thing that seperates the EXL 500 from being the best
plastic > > > wheel on the market are it's pedals. Take 40$ and go buy the standard CH > > > Pedals to go with them. You'll have seperate axis, plus your standard
Quoted text (8 lines)> > wheel > > > pedals that you can use for other things (like a clutch in GPL). > > > -- > > > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> > > > -- May the Downforce be with you... > > > "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't
realise > > > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
GTX_SlotCar 08 Feb 2000#518542
And all this time I thought it was a clever joke ;) Well, I never said I was the brightest candle on the cake. Slot >>indeed... >>realiSe is Shakespeare spelling and realiZe is Aaron 'Spelling'. >LOL!!
ymenard 08 Feb 2000#518543
Well that's the whole point of the signature file. Your about the 50th person who said that since I have it, still makes me laugh about the situation. At some extent, we could say I make Americans realise that they aren't alone on the planet 8) -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
Tony Rickard 09 Feb 2000 01:04 UTC#290211
>From: "GTX_SlotCar" > BTW, I like the trailer on your posts. "Super genius" and then you mispell'realize'. Good sense of humor. ;) Don't you mean humour? :) BTW thanks for the Ferrari wheel settings - they have transformed the wheel in GPL. I like to try radical setting changes - but increasing the FF damping had not even figured. Well done. I just love RAS Tony

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