OT: 60's and 70's era videos - recommendations?

I've just ordered the "in car 956" video (Duke) as recommended by many, but would love to get hold of some footage of full F1 races, or at least extended footage of the racing from the races in the 60's or 70's. Almost all of the videos seem to try to cram an entire decade into 60 minutes, reducing each race to about a minute of footage, if you're lucky. Even something like the '95, '96, '97 etc. summary type videos, but for a particular year in the 60's or 70's would be fantastic. I don't know whether the footage exists or not, but would love to see it if it does. Any recommendation of anything even vaguely fitting my description? Or any other videos that are pretty good and worth spending a dollar on? TIA Rafe Mc

SpeedVision and a VCR....? <G> I don't really know of some good F1 videos that cover any specific year, but if you're looking for racing in general, 'American Nitro Saga of the Funny Car' is damn good and the HAVOC series shows a lot of old stuff but they're mainly just wrecks from everything and don't really go into a lot of info. Either way, Duke Video should have what you want.... that reminds me, I need to order a catalog...

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>I've just ordered the "in car 956" video (Duke) as recommended by >many, but would love to get hold of some footage of full F1 races, or >at least extended footage of the racing from the races in the 60's or >70's. Almost all of the videos seem to try to cram an entire decade >into 60 minutes, reducing each race to about a minute of footage, if >you're lucky. Even something like the '95, '96, '97 etc. summary type >videos, but for a particular year in the 60's or 70's would be >fantastic. I don't know whether the footage exists or not, but would >love to see it if it does. >Any recommendation of anything even vaguely fitting my description? Or >any other videos that are pretty good and worth spending a dollar on? >TIA >Rafe Mc

It's a damn pity that we don't get that kinda stuff over here is Australia. Foxtel occasionally has something reasonable, but I would love to be able to see that "9 Days in Summer" that was apparently on Speedvision. No cable channels like that over here tho, pity. Rafe Mc

Try to find "If you ain't winning - you ain't trying". Covers the 1972 (?) Season from JPS Lotus' point of view. Really great video! Best, Matt/GPLEA

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>SpeedVision and a VCR....? <G> >I don't really know of some good F1 videos that cover any specific >year, but if you're looking for racing in general, 'American Nitro >Saga of the Funny Car' is damn good and the HAVOC series shows a lot >of old stuff but they're mainly just wrecks from everything and don't >really go into a lot of info. >Either way, Duke Video should have what you want.... that reminds me, >I need to order a catalog... >>I've just ordered the "in car 956" video (Duke) as recommended by >>many, but would love to get hold of some footage of full F1 races, or >>at least extended footage of the racing from the races in the 60's or >>70's. Almost all of the videos seem to try to cram an entire decade >>into 60 minutes, reducing each race to about a minute of footage, if >>you're lucky. Even something like the '95, '96, '97 etc. summary type >>videos, but for a particular year in the 60's or 70's would be >>fantastic. I don't know whether the footage exists or not, but would >>love to see it if it does. >>Any recommendation of anything even vaguely fitting my description? Or >>any other videos that are pretty good and worth spending a dollar on? >>TIA >>Rafe Mc

Thanks for the recommendation, just found it in my Duke catalog. Actually the '73 season, sounds like a goer. Added to the list... Rafe Mc On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 13:55:45 +0100, "Matthew Birger Knutsen" >Try to find "If you ain't winning - you ain't trying". >Covers the 1972 (?) Season from JPS Lotus' point of view. Really great >video! >Best, >Matt/GPLEA

Well, there's "Nine days in Summer" which you probably know about, if not it's all about 1967, the GPL season, from a Lotus point of view. Also featuring Lotus is "If you're not winning, you're not trying", which follows the team throughout the 1973 GP season. Duke Video stock both of them. -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

"The Ringmasters" from Duke has a reasonable coverage of the the Ring in '67. Andrew,

Thanks, I'll have to add that to the list as well, I can't see it being screened over here... On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:43:50 +0000, Graeme Nash >Well, there's "Nine days in Summer" which you probably know about, if >not it's all about 1967, the GPL season, from a Lotus point of view. >Also featuring Lotus is "If you're not winning, you're not trying", >which follows the team throughout the 1973 GP season. >Duke Video stock both of them.

Looks pretty good, I think I may be out of cash soon:) On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 07:40:26 +1100, "Andrew Cowell"

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>"The Ringmasters" from Duke has a reasonable coverage of the the Ring in >'67. >Andrew, >> I've just ordered the "in car 956" video (Duke) as recommended by >> many, but would love to get hold of some footage of full F1 races, or >> at least extended footage of the racing from the races in the 60's or >> 70's. Almost all of the videos seem to try to cram an entire decade >> into 60 minutes, reducing each race to about a minute of footage, if >> you're lucky. Even something like the '95, '96, '97 etc. summary type >> videos, but for a particular year in the 60's or 70's would be >> fantastic. I don't know whether the footage exists or not, but would >> love to see it if it does. >> Any recommendation of anything even vaguely fitting my description? Or >> any other videos that are pretty good and worth spending a dollar on? >> TIA >> Rafe Mc

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Almost all of the videos seem to try to cram an entire decade > into 60 minutes, reducing each race to about a minute of footage, if > you're lucky. > Although several people have suggested some good videos, generally speaking you're going to be out of luck. Proper TV coverage of GPs only started in the early 80's, so most 60's and 70's vids seem to be collections of highlights from promotional films. Occasionally you get a good one like "Nine days in Summer" or "Ringmasters". What I'd like is a video of the last F1 races at the Ring, say 74, 75 and 76. I've never been able to find anything other than snippets of these. - Michael

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> The last F1 GPs on the Ring are said to have had very good TV > coverage. Maybe not so much for the German audience, but for foreign > stations . I can't remember which station was in charge of providing > the coverage, WDR, SWF or ZDF. Apparantly, the experience and > equipment from the 1972 Olympics and the 1974 Soccer World Cup were > used. I've read reports about the numbers of cameras, length of cables > etc. in books about the Ring.

Have you ever seen videos of these races for sale? Even in German language they would be of great interest. - Michael

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>> The last F1 GPs on the Ring are said to have had very good TV >> coverage. Maybe not so much for the German audience, but for foreign >> stations . I can't remember which station was in charge of providing >> the coverage, WDR, SWF or ZDF. Apparantly, the experience and >> equipment from the 1972 Olympics and the 1974 Soccer World Cup were >> used. I've read reports about the numbers of cameras, length of cables >> etc. in books about the Ring. >Have you ever seen videos of these races for sale?

Like the womens 4x400m relay in Munich? ;-> No, I've not seen videos for sale. But I just received a reply from the TV station, saying that they have a lot of F1 in their archives. I'll see what I can get. -- Matthias Flatt

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:49:59 -0000, MichaelJP <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> Almost all of the videos seem to try to cram an entire decade >> into 60 minutes, reducing each race to about a minute of footage, if >> you're lucky. >Although several people have suggested some good videos, generally >speaking you're going to be out of luck. Proper TV coverage of GPs only >started in the early 80's, so most 60's and 70's vids seem to be >collections of highlights from promotional films. Occasionally you get a >good one like "Nine days in Summer" or "Ringmasters". >What I'd like is a video of the last F1 races at the Ring, say 74, 75 and >76. I've never been able to find anything other than snippets of these.

The last F1 GPs on the Ring are said to have had very good TV coverage. Maybe not so much for the German audience, but for foreign stations . I can't remember which station was in charge of providing the coverage, WDR, SWF or ZDF. Apparantly, the experience and equipment from the 1972 Olympics and the 1974 Soccer World Cup were used. I've read reports about the numbers of cameras, length of cables etc. in books about the Ring. The famous Lauda crash film was taken by an amateur, though. Some stations offer the service of sending video tapes of recent broadcasts, eg. SWR at [email hidden] But usually this is rather expensive. -- Matthias Flatt

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:52:59 -0000, MichaelJP <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> The last F1 GPs on the Ring are said to have had very good TV >> coverage. Maybe not so much for the German audience, but for foreign >> stations . I can't remember which station was in charge of providing >> the coverage, WDR, SWF or ZDF. Apparantly, the experience and >> equipment from the 1972 Olympics and the 1974 Soccer World Cup were >> used. I've read reports about the numbers of cameras, length of cables >> etc. in books about the Ring. >Have you ever seen videos of these races for sale?

Like the womens 4x400m relay in Munich? ;-> >Even in German language they would be of great interest. No, I've not seen videos for sale. But I just received a reply from the TV station, saying that they have a lot of F1 in their archives. I'll see what I can get. -- Matthias Flatt

It'd be fantastic to be able to go through a station's archives, get hold of all that stuff. Don't know how helpful the Australian networks would be though... Rafe Mc

After doing some more intensive searching of the Duke video offerings, I've found some called "Grand Prix 1970-71", also 72-73, 74-5, 76-7 and 78-79. Fairly pricey videos, but I'm sure they'd have great footage, since they are concentrating on only 2 years. About 50-55 mins running time, they look like they'd be pretty good. Can't say what footage of the 'ring they have, has anyone seen these??? Rafe Mc

They have 'Ringmasters', it's about the '67 race at the Ring. Superb stuff. Andre >mins running time, they look like they'd be pretty good. Can't say >what footage of the 'ring they have, has anyone seen these??? >Rafe Mc

I've seen some of these and they generally have about 2 minutes on each race:-( - Michael

Would you recommend them? Considering they are twice the price of most of the other videos, but would (I guess) have heaps of footage not seen elsewhere. Disappointing that there is only 2 mins per race, though at least they do have footage of each one. Rafe Mc

Well they're OK, as long as you know what you're buying. Don't expect coverage like we have now with loads of cameras round the track. Quite often they just had one on the start/finish then another somewhere round the track. - Michael