ge4 5600 ultra results

Hello, I just picked up a bfg asylum 5600 ultra 128mb for $105 after rebates at Best Buy. I thought it was a great deal, but my results in f12002 are less than I expected. My system is a Dell 4550 P4 2.53GHZ at 533MHZ FSB with 256MB ram at 400MHZ, 120GB 7200 RPM Harddrive. In 3dconfig, at 800x600 16bit the best I can get is 41 Million triangles. In game, frame rates are about 35-40 with everything turned all the way up. I really can't even turn on AA or aniso without a performance hit. Questions: am I right to assume this card was a great deal or should I return it? Would I get better results with F1C? Thanks! Eric Please remove *** in email adress to avoid spam

"Eric Brewer" <eric@***custom***rx***shop.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hello, > I just picked up a bfg asylum 5600 ultra 128mb for $105 after rebates > at Best Buy. I thought it was a great deal, but my results in f12002 > are less than I expected. > > My system is a Dell 4550 P4 2.53GHZ at 533MHZ FSB with 256MB ram at > 400MHZ, 120GB 7200 RPM Harddrive. > > In 3dconfig, at 800x600 16bit the best I can get is 41 Million > triangles. In game, frame rates are about 35-40 with everything > turned all the way up. I really can't even turn on AA or aniso > without a performance hit. > > Questions: am I right to assume this card was a great deal or should > I return it? > > Would I get better results with F1C? > > Thanks! Eric > Please remove *** in email adress to avoid spam

Performance is also due in no small part to the drivers and OS you're using, and you didn't share that info. Won't do too much to complain about performance if your drivers are 6 months out of date. I have a 5600 Ultra and it smokes everything I run with it, though I don't run the F1 type sims outside of GPL. Using XP and 45.23 drivers on a 2800+ AMD with a gig of DDR on a mobo that supports AGP 8X (A7N8X Deluxe) that I built. I gave up on the mail order boxes when Zeos got bought out by Micron... :-) (prolly 9 years ago maybe?)

Eric, you need another 256MB to 512MB of RAM for one thing(for a total of 512 or 768). That will help a little(possibly 10% or more, which would put u in the 45-50fps range). Using 45.XX or higher drivers should help some as well. Everything turned all the way up and getting 35-40 is still pretty darn good considering your HW. The 5600 Ultra is a good card, but by todays standards its not a great card, there are many models that are substantially faster. "Eric Brewer" <eric@***custom***rx***shop.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hello, > I just picked up a bfg asylum 5600 ultra 128mb for $105 after rebates > at Best Buy. I thought it was a great deal, but my results in f12002 > are less than I expected. > > My system is a Dell 4550 P4 2.53GHZ at 533MHZ FSB with 256MB ram at > 400MHZ, 120GB 7200 RPM Harddrive. > > In 3dconfig, at 800x600 16bit the best I can get is 41 Million > triangles. In game, frame rates are about 35-40 with everything > turned all the way up. I really can't even turn on AA or aniso > without a performance hit. > > Questions: am I right to assume this card was a great deal or should > I return it? > > Would I get better results with F1C? > > Thanks! Eric > Please remove *** in email adress to avoid spam >

5600 Ultra is easily out performed by the GF4 ti4200 Golden sample then... I have this in my 2nd pc and it shows 47.3m triangles to your 41m..... When i start the EA Racing titles all graphic settings are auto set to High or Full and i see over 40 fps all the time. The card you have isnt top notch but i would have expected a little more. AD

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> 5600 Ultra is easily out performed by the GF4 ti4200 Golden sample > then... > > I have this in my 2nd pc and it shows 47.3m triangles to your 41m..... > > When i start the EA Racing titles all graphic settings are auto set to > High or Full and i see over 40 fps all the time. > > The card you have isnt top notch but i would have expected a little > more. > > AD > > >

Double check your FSAA and Ansio settings...the Nvidia cards bog down easily if you run those options. Extra ram is good but don't exceed 512mb if you use win98. You can use utilities like Riva TUner to overclock the memory and that should increase the fps...still a triangle score in the 40's are about what the GF4's hit when they came out and the 5xxx line isn't much faster...just has a few new features. But for $100 you got a pretty good deal. To see real speed increases you'd probably have to spend closer to $300 or more. And if you have an older motherboard with slow RAM then those items too would hold back your test scores. The thing about 3dconfig is the cpu does not help or hurt the score, so you get a good look at your video card. Probably just messing around with your D3d settings in the video properties and retesting 3dconfig several times will raise the triangle score. You can keep going back without finalizing the config setup. Try different screen sizes, most video cards have a few native resolutions that seem to eek out slighter better peformance. And 16bit is usually faster than 32bit.. F1c is more demanding than the 2k2 sim. Not a-lot but it definately makes the video system work. dave henrie

I think it's a myth that Win98 doesn't run with RAM > 512 MB. I'm running WinME which should be subjected to the same restrictions with 1 GB of RAM and it works like a charm. All you need to do is limited the amount of RAM WinME's vcache can grab to 512 MB. I think it's really vcache that poses that memsize limitation, and that can be easily cured in system.ini by setting maxfilecache to something less than 512MB. I've set mine to 409600 because I don't think 512 MB is really necessary anyway. Achim "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... ... > Extra ram is good but don't exceed 512mb if you use win98....

BTW, I'm using XP and driver version 45.23. I guess I'll return it and wait for the better cards to drop in price. On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:07:08 GMT, "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"Eric Brewer" <eric@***custom***rx***shop.com> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Hello, >> I just picked up a bfg asylum 5600 ultra 128mb for $105 after rebates >> at Best Buy. I thought it was a great deal, but my results in f12002 >> are less than I expected. >> >> My system is a Dell 4550 P4 2.53GHZ at 533MHZ FSB with 256MB ram at >> 400MHZ, 120GB 7200 RPM Harddrive. >> >> In 3dconfig, at 800x600 16bit the best I can get is 41 Million >> triangles. In game, frame rates are about 35-40 with everything >> turned all the way up. I really can't even turn on AA or aniso >> without a performance hit. >> >> Questions: am I right to assume this card was a great deal or should >> I return it? >> >> Would I get better results with F1C? >> >> Thanks! Eric >> Please remove *** in email adress to avoid spam > >Performance is also due in no small part to the drivers and OS you're using, >and you didn't share that info. Won't do too much to complain about >performance if your drivers are 6 months out of date. I have a 5600 Ultra >and it smokes everything I run with it, though I don't run the F1 type sims >outside of GPL. Using XP and 45.23 drivers on a 2800+ AMD with a gig of DDR >on a mobo that supports AGP 8X (A7N8X Deluxe) that I built. I gave up on the >mail order boxes when Zeos got bought out by Micron... :-) (prolly 9 years >ago maybe?) >

"Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:bmljae$mbsbr$1@ID- 99765.news.uni-berlin.de: > I think it's a myth that Win98 doesn't run with RAM > 512 MB. Not a myth...win98 will run with more than 512mb, but it will not run as quickly. So rather than try to explain vcache to general users, it is easier to just say...whoa...don't drop in more than 512mb. Especially since, up until recently, ram was pretty pricey. dave henrie

"Eric Brewer" <eric@***custom***rx***shop.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > BTW, I'm using XP and driver version 45.23. I guess I'll return it > and wait for the better cards to drop in price. > > Well, if you feel that the card is truly your bottleneck, then that may be the best bet. Just don't freak out if you get a nicer card and it still doesn't perform up to snuff. Getting vid cards to scoot properly takes some level of tweaking and it sounds like you want one you can drop and in work. Good luck.

If you had any sense you'd go get some ram for now......256mb is NOT enough unless you write letters on Wordpad 99% of the time. AD

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> Hello, > I just picked up a bfg asylum 5600 ultra 128mb for $105 after rebates > at Best Buy. I thought it was a great deal, but my results in f12002 > are less than I expected. > > My system is a Dell 4550 P4 2.53GHZ at 533MHZ FSB with 256MB ram at > 400MHZ, 120GB 7200 RPM Harddrive. > > In 3dconfig, at 800x600 16bit the best I can get is 41 Million > triangles. In game, frame rates are about 35-40 with everything > turned all the way up. I really can't even turn on AA or aniso > without a performance hit. > > Questions: am I right to assume this card was a great deal or should > I return it? > > Would I get better results with F1C?

Very often very fast graphics cards have poor results in lower resolutions, usually not much better then a card that should be at least 50% slower. Compare your old card with the new one in 1280x1024/32bit, there should be a bigger difference. Also, you _MUST_ add another 256 megs of RAM. -- Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. ICQ: 138579247

Here is an update from my original post. I found that turning mirrors down made a huge difference for me: I gained 30 fps going from high to low mirrors so now I can use some fsaa and af! The anisotropic filtering makes a big difference in appearance. Things in the distance are more "focused." Actually, I am bringing my 5600 ultra back to Best Buy for a 5900 non-ultra tonight. Price $225. Let me know if it's a bad idea. Eric On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:49:07 -0400, Eric Brewer <eric@***custom***rx***shop.com> wrote:

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>Hello, >I just picked up a bfg asylum 5600 ultra 128mb for $105 after rebates >at Best Buy. I thought it was a great deal, but my results in f12002 >are less than I expected. > >My system is a Dell 4550 P4 2.53GHZ at 533MHZ FSB with 256MB ram at >400MHZ, 120GB 7200 RPM Harddrive. > >In 3dconfig, at 800x600 16bit the best I can get is 41 Million >triangles. In game, frame rates are about 35-40 with everything >turned all the way up. I really can't even turn on AA or aniso >without a performance hit. > >Questions: am I right to assume this card was a great deal or should >I return it? > >Would I get better results with F1C? > >Thanks! Eric >Please remove *** in email adress to avoid spam