A few Osterreichring facts

1) Vittorio Brambilla won his only race there in 1975. He promptly crashed as he crossed the line:) 2) John Watson won his first GP there in 1976 driving a Penske. 3) Alan Jones won his first GP there in 1977 driving a Shadow, also their first win, and if I am correct their last. 4) Ronnie Petersons last win was there in 1978. 5) Elio de Angelis won his first race at the Osterreichring in 1982 driving a Lotus-Ford 0.0125 seconds ahead of Keke Rosberg in the Williams. 6) I also think Niki Lauda had his first F1 race there in 1971, he only managed to win his home GP some 13 years later. 7) The 1987 race was restarted 3 times (Martin Brundle usually explains this several times a season) and the race wans't held for another 10 years. 8) The GP went back to the same location in 1997, the Austrians managing to completely #$%^ up a brilliant circuit! Chris

Let me guess: the Guinness Guide to International Motor Racing? regards -- http://ianhill.tripod.com Please visit www.thehungersite.com today!

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> Let me guess: the Guinness Guide to International Motor Racing? > regards > -- > http://ianhill.tripod.com > Please visit www.thehungersite.com today!

No, from memory of watching or reading about those events at some point in time. The 82 race was a real thriller, Prost retired while leading with about 3 laps to go and Rosberg who was behind De Angelis suddenly realised he could win the race and drove out of his skin to finish a whisker behind the Italian. Chris BTW: Hows Cambridge? I'm grew up in Arbury Road:)

Just picking you up on point seven there Chris. Mansell won that 1987 race after the chequed flag came out a lap late. This was also the same event where Johansson hit a deer in qualifying... I bought the highlights video of this particular GP from Duke videos :o) > 7) The 1987 race was restarted 3 times (Martin Brundle usually explains this > several times a season) and the race wans't held for another 10 years. -- Rob Swindells "Add life to your days, not days to your life." "The greatest substitute for talent is hard work." "Doing it, is better than watching it, is better than simulating it." "I may not be perfect, but parts of me are excellent."

And I was there to see it :) Unfortunately during sunday warm-up Mark Donohue crashed heavily in the 1st corner, right before our eyes. For us he seemed almost unhurt, when they took off his helmet. And still he died the next day :( Also a marchal was killed. That was F1 in the seventies...

All correct, Chris, except your last comment. It wasn't the Austrians who stuffed the circuit, it was the FIA and FOCA. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

> 1) Vittorio Brambilla won his only race there in 1975. He promptly crashed > as he crossed the line:) I was watching some program on Speedvision and they showed this particular crash. it was rather amusing - it was a really wet race and he'd just managed to drive a brilliant race to win, so as he crossed the line he took both hands off the wheel to start waving and celebrating, and of course immediately lost control and smacked into the pit wall. :) Grant.

Don't know of any movies with David Essex in that weren't shitty. On a par with his music really. :-) Though, of course, the one you are referring to I would imagine is Silver Dream Racer. I can see the lamplight... shining through my window... <snip> -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

"Silver Dream Racer" - has to be in contention for the worst racing movie ever! The "racing" scenes before Essex's final firey demise have people rolling on the floor in hysterics:-) - Michael

On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:52:22 -0000, "Mark Seery" >Hehe yes....Silver dream racer. What a load of ...... >The so called superbike struck an uncanny resemblance to a machine I used to >ride - A Yamaha RD 350 LC Is till ride a XT500 - as featured in "Timerider Lynn Swann" , "Mad Max 2" and "007 - For Your Eyes Only". ;-) Is that the one were an american hillbilly boy enters GP motorcycle racing with his selfmade bike and beats the reigning champion (an Austrian?) ? That was an very american movie, I think. -- Matthias Flatt

Well he was British and the champeen was (I think) Australian, but you're on the right track. Although how you could confuse David Essex for an Amereican is beyond me !! ;) -- Ian Parker UKGPL League http://members.xoom.com/ukgpl == > Is that the one were an american hillbilly boy enters GP motorcycle > racing with his selfmade bike and beats the reigning champion (an > Austrian?) ? > That was an very american movie, I think. > -- > Matthias Flatt

On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 17:20:14 GMT, "Ian Parker"

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>> Is that the one were an american hillbilly boy enters GP motorcycle >> racing with his selfmade bike and beats the reigning champion (an >> Austrian?) ? >Well he was British and the champeen was (I think) Australian, but you're on >the right track. >Although how you could confuse David Essex for an Amereican is beyond me !! >;)

We get it everything translated (lip-synchred, dubbed?) into German, and when it's not a big Hollywood movie, the translation might be less than excellent. My favourite is the movie "Plenty", which was called "Meryl Streep is a demancipated woman" in German movie theaters. I doubt anyone dared to buy a ticket. Video releases often are changed to be even more interesting. So it's quite possible that the translator of the script run out of coffee and made an Austrian out of the Australian. Saves typing two letters every time it occurs. And when reading about David Essex, the translator probably thought: isn't that a place in England? Certainly foggy all the time. Dull. Let's call it Amarillo, Texas instead, and then we name the flick "Rodeo Ridin' Ringo, the fastest son of a gun under the sun". There was a documentary about Muhammad Ali on the TV recently, showing Ali during a speech in the 60s, citing "Mary had a little lamb". The translator obviously understood "lamp", and so the German audience got tortured with a translation starting "Mary had a small light". -- Matthias Flatt

Oh that makes sense now !! :) -- Ian Parker UKGPL League http://members.xoom.com/ukgpl ==

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