New GPL tracks?

Why is it that Noonan is the only person who can create new tracks for GPL? Seriously! :) -- ----------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/ -----------------------------------

> Why is it that Noonan is the only person who can create new tracks for GPL? > Seriously! :) If you don't know... it's best you don't ask! Dave Hawnt UK

Been here (http://www.gpl.netti.nu) yet? :-) -- All the best, Ed Solheim The Paddock - a legendary site.... (Remove SPAM-GUARD in address to reply) > Why is it that Noonan is the only person who can create new tracks for GPL? > Seriously! :)

I think the Snetterton track will be great too, the screenshots look very promising. But wouldn't it be great if creating tracks for GPL would have been more easier, just like creating tracks for GP2? If Papy isn't going to make any track addons for GPL, why not give us some help with creating tracks? Surely they must have some kind of track editor with which they made their tracks. Even if they charge a huge amount of money for the editor, I'll buy it immediately! Andre On Wed, 02 Feb 2000 05:09:14 GMT, "Ed Solheim" <thepaddock[S P A M G U

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>Been here (http://www.gpl.netti.nu) yet? :-) >-- >All the best, >Ed Solheim >The Paddock - a legendary site.... >(Remove SPAM-GUARD in address to reply) >> Why is it that Noonan is the only person who can create new tracks for >GPL? >> Seriously! :)

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> I think the Snetterton track will be great too, the screenshots look > very promising. But wouldn't it be great if creating tracks for GPL > would have been more easier, just like creating tracks for GP2? > If Papy isn't going to make any track addons for GPL, why not give us > some help with creating tracks? Surely they must have some kind of > track editor with which they made their tracks. > Even if they charge a huge amount of money for the editor, I'll buy it > immediately!

Andre....my good man...have you thought about the consequences of what you are proposing here ?? That would mean that the i-net would be "flooded" with aftermarket add on tracks for GPL, and N3 etc with the upcoming converter, can you imagine what this would do for the sales of Papyrus' products ? The horror of it all man, I mean, with the TPTCC and other patches, they might even sell extra copies of N3 and NL in Europe <shrug> Not to mention what it would do the god like status of Geoff Cra..err, David Noonan, think about it... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy

Sorry Uncly Goy, I really didn't think when I wrote this. I didn't realize the consequences it would bring when Papyrus would release a track editor. Papyrus: please forget all the stuff i said, please keep your games to a very small adience, so you won't make too much of a profit. You wouldn't want to please those Sierra people now would you? Sorry again, Andre :)

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>> I think the Snetterton track will be great too, the screenshots look >> very promising. But wouldn't it be great if creating tracks for GPL >> would have been more easier, just like creating tracks for GP2? >> If Papy isn't going to make any track addons for GPL, why not give us >> some help with creating tracks? Surely they must have some kind of >> track editor with which they made their tracks. >> Even if they charge a huge amount of money for the editor, I'll buy it >> immediately! >Andre....my good man...have you thought about the consequences of what >you are proposing here ?? >That would mean that the i-net would be "flooded" with aftermarket add >on tracks for GPL, and N3 etc with the upcoming converter, can you >imagine what this would do for the sales of Papyrus' products ? >The horror of it all man, I mean, with the TPTCC and other patches, they >might even sell extra copies of N3 and NL in Europe <shrug> >Not to mention what it would do the god like status of Geoff Cra..err, >David Noonan, think about it... >Beers and cheers >(uncle) Goy

Can someone respond on the hours it took to make ?sterreichring? I am wondering what it took and whether or not labor could be contracted out to various GPLers that have shown that they can do the work without upseting the apple cart? SLG

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>Why is it that Noonan is the only person who can create new tracks for GPL? >Seriously! :) >-- >----------------------------------- >Morgan Vincent Wooten >http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/ >-----------------------------------

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)

Oh God, please don't let that happen! These add-ons ahve ruined all my other games by adding extra fun, options and realism!!! No, please don't let GPL be destroyed like this too!!! -- GraDee (...who must appologize if that sounded just a little sarcastic:-)) ------------------------------------------------------------- Karting "3.65" www.esatclear.ie/~karting ------------------------------------------------------------- "The dozens and dozens........."

I feel the same way. OF COURSE its wonderful Dave gives us these tracks, but why not share the knowhow and let us all give it a try... I got a massive amount of books and documentation about F1 since 1950. And many video's as well. I would LOVE to contribute... for free :) Monopoly is ALWAYS a bad thing....

Can't inform you on how long Dave took on ostrich-ring, but I can tell you I've been working since GPL was released with the sole purpose of creating new tracks. I/we(GPLEA) started Snetterton last summer and it's nearly done, so I guess several hundred if not thousand hours of work... ! But that's from scratch, and not from a known base. I'm thinking that the next track we do will take significantly less time. Phil (Snetterton is a coming!)

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> Can someone respond on the hours it took to make ?sterreichring? I am > wondering what it took and whether or not labor could be contracted > out to various GPLers that have shown that they can do the work > without upseting the apple cart? > SLG > >Why is it that Noonan is the only person who can create new tracks for GPL? > >Seriously! :) > >-- > >----------------------------------- > >Morgan Vincent Wooten > >http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/ > >----------------------------------- > (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new > and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are > due to too many English classes/teachers)

Uhhh... when? :) Andre

Probably, as my mother was prone to saying when asked when dinner would be ready, "When it's ready and not before"! :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

Eagerly awaited, should be great. 2 parties producing GPL tracks=lots of time spent racing... Rafe Mc On Thu, 03 Feb 2000 19:32:28 +0000, Phil Flack

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>Can't inform you on how long Dave took on ostrich-ring, but I can tell >you I've been working since GPL was released with the sole purpose of >creating new tracks. I/we(GPLEA) started Snetterton last summer and >it's nearly done, so I guess several hundred if not thousand hours of >work... ! But that's from scratch, and not from a known base. I'm >thinking that the next track we do will take significantly less time. >Phil >(Snetterton is a coming!)

Again: WHY not share the info and the code???? Is this an attitude: "I had to search for months to find the code, so you all have to do it yourself too"? Sound totally silly to me. We all LOVE GPL. We all want new tracks, or improved tracks. Whats wrong with that? Karl > > >Why is it that Noonan is the only person who can create new tracks for GPL?

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> > >Seriously! :) > > >-- > > >----------------------------------- > > >Morgan Vincent Wooten > > >http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/ > > >----------------------------------- > > (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new > > and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are > > due to too many English classes/teachers)

Karl Zosel wrote:

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> > Again: WHY not share the info and the code???? > Is this an attitude: "I had to search for months to find the code, so you > all have to do it yourself too"? > > Sound totally silly to me. > > We all LOVE GPL. > We all want new tracks, or improved tracks. > > Whats wrong with that?

Nothing, and in a perfect world, Papy would have put together a user friendly track editor that everyone could learn to use in 5 mins flat, in a slightly less perfect world David Noonan (or someone else) would have put together a less user friendly editor that 50% could use in a day or two, as it is now, it's all about manual labor and "black art" tools that probably only the creator of the tools an a select few could ever have a hope of learning how to use, and rather than spend their entire time answering e-mails about how to use them, they put out tracks for us to enjoy... But then again, in a perfect world, Papy would have used the GPL engine in N3, David Noonan would have finished his GPL<->N3<->NL<->N2<->ICR2 converter, "The Pits" would have put out a TPTCC/AussieV8 patch a few days after the release of N3 (because Papy had recognized the value of having sites such as SimCyberworld and The Pits doing aftermarket add-on's and released valuable info to such sites ahead of the release) and I would now have been racing some good friends around the Bathurst track in "The Pits" annual 1000 km race, online, in a warp free environment in a Larry Perkins Racing Holden Commodore...........hey, that's *my* dream Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy

I say, if Noonan knows everything about the format (and he obviously does :) why not make a track editor? Even if it's as simple as SODA's editor (in fact, I love that editor!!!) it'd be great...then my 14 mile + track with a 7 mile downhill straight and incredibly twisty uphill would become a reality :) -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "Yeah you won't find me I'm going MIA Tonight I'm leaving Going MIA Getting lost in you again Is better than being known" -Foo Fighters, "MIA" > Again: WHY not share the info and the code???? > Is this an attitude: "I had to search for months to find the code, so you > all have to do it yourself too"? > Sound totally silly to me. > We all LOVE GPL. > We all want new tracks, or improved tracks. > Whats wrong with that? > Karl > > > >Why is it that Noonan is the only person who can create new tracks for > GPL? > > > >Seriously! :) > > > >-- > > > >----------------------------------- > > > >Morgan Vincent Wooten > > > >http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/ > > > >----------------------------------- > > > (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new > > > and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are > > > due to too many English classes/teachers)