Overtaking!

Does anyone else have this problem: You run lap after lap (just about any sim, but maybe GPL more so) by yourself with no trouble, as soon as you come up to another car to pass you only seem able to either 1) Attempt a ridiculous overtaking manouvre which renders your car in a wall, 2) Manage to hit the other car. I know what the answer is; patience. I know I should wait for a safe opportunity but I guess I get the red mist and common sense goes out the window. Maybe someone should set up an on-line Pyscho therapy service for GPLers to try and overcome these mental problems? Chris

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> Does anyone else have this problem: > You run lap after lap (just about any sim, but maybe GPL more so) by > yourself with no trouble, as soon as you come up to another car to pass you > only seem able to either 1) Attempt a ridiculous overtaking manouvre which > renders your car in a wall, 2) Manage to hit the other car. > I know what the answer is; patience. I know I should wait for a safe > opportunity but I guess I get the red mist and common sense goes out the > window. > Maybe someone should set up an on-line Pyscho therapy service for GPLers to > try and overcome these mental problems? > Chris

hehe.. you are right though, !!PATIENCE!! In the GPML series, this past Sunday we ran the Converted Glen (Modern Glen). I was leading all the way to lap ten when I came across a back marker. This Glen doesn't have Blue flags to tell him that I'm the leader and he should let me by. I knew this and just sat behind him for about three or four laps. All this time the second place guy was getting bigger and bigger in my mirrors and I knew that if I didn't get by this lapper I'd end up losing first place. I also knew that if I tried to pass him in the wrong place I might end up mowing the lawns and still losing first place. So I just sat there and waited, and waited, and waited. Finally with one second between my and the second place driver, The lapper spins in the ninety. WooHoo, I can now continue my race in first place and try to build up that lead again!! Dang it, wouldn't yah know it, I was so e***d that I ended up over powering the car on the exit of the ninety just after the lapper spun. The second place guy ended up taking the lead while I tried to gather my self back up and get going before he got too far ahead. Luckily this wasn't long and I ended up just two seconds behind. It took another five or six laps of breathing in his exhaust fumes and getting so close to him I could reach out and touch his gear box. I finally found that I was a bit quicker getting on the brakes, but softer in the ninety then he was. So, I took the advantage and out braked him on the inside and regained the lead. For the rest of that lap he was pretty much stuck to my tail pipe and scaring the heck out of me. He must have been studying his mirrors while I was behind him because he attempted to pass me in the chute (180* just after the inner loop) where I'm the slowest. He grabbed the inside and we ran side by side down most of the next strait. Just before the braking point for turn ten, I was able to pull in front of him and get ready for the turn. Unfortunately, I wasn't quite ready for it and ended up spinning. hehe, luck was on my side that day because while trying to avoid me, he ended up spinning as well. I took off quicker then he did and went on to win the race. If you read all that you'll see that I waited for the right time and right place to pass both drivers. I didn't wait for the next corner, or even the next several corners, I waited several laps before I found the right place. !!PATIENCE!! is what it took! I had enough of it that I ended up winning:) BTW: I'm now in first place in the points race!! And to the other drivers of GPML.... I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, Nothing is better then rubbing it in<g> I WON, I WON, I WON, <G> -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

<A load of useless conceited drivel about how good he is....blah blah blah. whatever you say............ MS

I think it's impossible to make a clean, fair pass on some tracks. Unless, of course, the guy makes a small mistake. Monaco, Mosport and Watkins Glen come to mind. Sometimes you just have to hang in there and concede that you're not gonna get by unless he screws up. Better to settle for second than ruin somebody's race. Not sure what you can do about the red mist. Drinking too much coffee, maybe? My biggest problem is the inexplicable magnetic attraction I have to spinning cars! Infuriating! :) -A

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>Does anyone else have this problem: >You run lap after lap (just about any sim, but maybe GPL more so) by >yourself with no trouble, as soon as you come up to another car to pass you >only seem able to either 1) Attempt a ridiculous overtaking manouvre which >renders your car in a wall, 2) Manage to hit the other car. >I know what the answer is; patience. I know I should wait for a safe >opportunity but I guess I get the red mist and common sense goes out the >window. >Maybe someone should set up an on-line Pyscho therapy service for GPLers to >try and overcome these mental problems? >Chris

F1 is not meant to have any passing. Just look at modern F1 hehehehe. Only race that a lot of passing was Magny Cours, but that was in the rain. The most impressive run had to be the drive for Michael in 98 from last place in Suzuka, he came back to like 4th or 5th before his wheel gave out

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>I think it's impossible to make a clean, fair pass on some tracks. Unless, >of course, the guy makes a small mistake. Monaco, Mosport and Watkins Glen >come to mind. Sometimes you just have to hang in there and concede that >you're not gonna get by unless he screws up. Better to settle for second >than ruin somebody's race. Not sure what you can do about the red mist. >Drinking too much coffee, maybe? >My biggest problem is the inexplicable magnetic attraction I have to >spinning cars! Infuriating! :) >-A >>Does anyone else have this problem: >>You run lap after lap (just about any sim, but maybe GPL more so) by >>yourself with no trouble, as soon as you come up to another car to pass you >>only seem able to either 1) Attempt a ridiculous overtaking manouvre which >>renders your car in a wall, 2) Manage to hit the other car. >>I know what the answer is; patience. I know I should wait for a safe >>opportunity but I guess I get the red mist and common sense goes out the >>window. >>Maybe someone should set up an on-line Pyscho therapy service for GPLers to >>try and overcome these mental problems? >>Chris

One question for you - what is your frame rate doing around other cars? I had the same probs 4-5 months back, and didn't realise my fps was dropping, and I was losing control. Upgraded, and SWEEEEET! Never had more fun! Rafe Mc On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:42:38 -0800, "Aubrey"

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>I think it's impossible to make a clean, fair pass on some tracks. Unless, >of course, the guy makes a small mistake. Monaco, Mosport and Watkins Glen >come to mind. Sometimes you just have to hang in there and concede that >you're not gonna get by unless he screws up. Better to settle for second >than ruin somebody's race. Not sure what you can do about the red mist. >Drinking too much coffee, maybe? >My biggest problem is the inexplicable magnetic attraction I have to >spinning cars! Infuriating! :) >-A >>Does anyone else have this problem: >>You run lap after lap (just about any sim, but maybe GPL more so) by >>yourself with no trouble, as soon as you come up to another car to pass you >>only seem able to either 1) Attempt a ridiculous overtaking manouvre which >>renders your car in a wall, 2) Manage to hit the other car. >>I know what the answer is; patience. I know I should wait for a safe >>opportunity but I guess I get the red mist and common sense goes out the >>window. >>Maybe someone should set up an on-line Pyscho therapy service for GPLers to >>try and overcome these mental problems? >>Chris

That's a good story. I've been keeping that in mind today while practicing running in traffic in GPL. Thanks. -- ----------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/ ----------------------------------- > hehe.. you are right though, !!PATIENCE!! In the GPML series, this > past Sunday we ran the Converted Glen (Modern Glen). I was leading all [clip] > And to the other drivers of GPML.... I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I > WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I > WON, Nothing is better then rubbing it in<g> I WON, I WON, I WON, <G> > -- > ========================================= > Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? > ========================================= > http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ > Racing online with the help of...... > Race Communications Association > Holodyne Engineering > Mystic Music > (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

If there is only one or two cars ahead I am still getting up around 36fps, actually the only time I get alot less is at the start with a full grid, though this is less crucial as its always easier to restart if there is a pile up on the grid:)

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> One question for you - what is your frame rate doing around other > cars? I had the same probs 4-5 months back, and didn't realise my fps > was dropping, and I was losing control. Upgraded, and SWEEEEET! Never > had more fun! > Rafe Mc > On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:42:38 -0800, "Aubrey" > >I think it's impossible to make a clean, fair pass on some tracks.

Unless, > >of course, the guy makes a small mistake. Monaco, Mosport and Watkins Glen

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> >come to mind. Sometimes you just have to hang in there and concede that > >you're not gonna get by unless he screws up. Better to settle for second > >than ruin somebody's race. Not sure what you can do about the red mist. > >Drinking too much coffee, maybe? > >My biggest problem is the inexplicable magnetic attraction I have to > >spinning cars! Infuriating! :) > >-A > >>Does anyone else have this problem: > >>You run lap after lap (just about any sim, but maybe GPL more so) by > >>yourself with no trouble, as soon as you come up to another car to pass

you > >>only seem able to either 1) Attempt a ridiculous overtaking manouvre which

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> >>renders your car in a wall, 2) Manage to hit the other car. > >>I know what the answer is; patience. I know I should wait for a safe > >>opportunity but I guess I get the red mist and common sense goes out the > >>window. > >>Maybe someone should set up an on-line Pyscho therapy service for GPLers

to > >>try and overcome these mental problems? > >>Chris