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22 posts by 11 people · 17 Oct 2003 12:00 UTC - 21 Oct 2003 05:12 UTC

Periodic multi-second freezes in F1 Challenge

J.R. reported F1 Challenge freezing for several seconds every few laps despite a powerful PC. Suggestions included disabling fog table emulation, lowering DirectX sound acceleration, closing background tasks and checking for a phantom network card, and Larry Lindstrom noted that F1C pauses online when a driver joins. No solution was confirmed.

tech supportF1 Challenge 99-02

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J.R. 17 Oct 2003 12:00 UTC#51596
I find that periodically, while racing on a track, the game would freeze. It would freeze for about five seconds, then continue. Unfortunately, 5s is added to the timer. This is ridiculously dumb, I'm looking for a solution as we speak. My hardware acceleration is low, antialiasing off, the other anti-something option is also off. Thanks, J.R.
"J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote in news:bmolm0$[email hidden]:
Quoted text (14 lines)> I find that periodically, while racing on a track, the game would > freeze. It would freeze for about five seconds, then continue. > Unfortunately, 5s is added to the timer. This is ridiculously dumb, > I'm looking for a solution as we speak. > > My hardware acceleration is low, antialiasing off, the other > anti-something option is also off. > > Thanks, > > J.R. > > >
Which sim? 5 seconds is a loooooong time...My first thought was your swap file has filled up and windows is transferring it to the hard drive. But no way should it take 5 seconds...more like a little hiccup. How much ram do you have? Have you covered the windows end by running scandisk and defragging your hard drives? dave henrie
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (25 lines)> "J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:bmolm0$[email hidden]: > > > I find that periodically, while racing on a track, the game would > > freeze. It would freeze for about five seconds, then continue. > > Unfortunately, 5s is added to the timer. This is ridiculously dumb, > > I'm looking for a solution as we speak. > > > > My hardware acceleration is low, antialiasing off, the other > > anti-something option is also off. > > > > Thanks, > > > > J.R. > > > > > > > > Which sim? 5 seconds is a loooooong time...My first thought was your > swap file has filled up and windows is transferring it to the hard drive. > But no way should it take 5 seconds...more like a little hiccup. How much > ram do you have? > Have you covered the windows end by running scandisk and defragging your > hard drives? > dave henrie
My system setup is as follows: P4 2.53GHz 1024MB Kingston DDR-RAM GeForce 4 Ti4600 Sound Blaster Audigy Logitech Momo Wheel I have tried the following: Increasing/Decreasing Anti-aliasing and Other Video Settings Re-installing Video Card Drivers Re-installing Sound Card Drivers Running the 3D thing selecting a lower bit rate (16-bit down rom 32) None of these work. However, on my last attempt, it took five 1:35 (suck, eh?) second laps of Monza before it froze up. Basically, sound freezes, video freezes, and these usually last five to seven seconds. Once I get one, they will periodically occur approximately every 10 seconds after the last one has finished until I exit the program. Regards, J.R.
J.R. 17 Oct 2003 13:52 UTC↳ reply to J.R.#51612
"J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bmorh9$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (23 lines)> > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote in > > news:bmolm0$[email hidden]: > > > > > I find that periodically, while racing on a track, the game would > > > freeze. It would freeze for about five seconds, then continue. > > > Unfortunately, 5s is added to the timer. This is ridiculously dumb, > > > I'm looking for a solution as we speak. > > > > > > My hardware acceleration is low, antialiasing off, the other > > > anti-something option is also off. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > J.R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which sim? 5 seconds is a loooooong time...My first thought was your > > swap file has filled up and windows is transferring it to the hard
drive. > > But no way should it take 5 seconds...more like a little hiccup. Howmuch > > ram do you have? > > Have you covered the windows end by running scandisk and defraggingyour
Quoted text (27 lines)> > hard drives? > > dave henrie > > My system setup is as follows: > P4 2.53GHz > 1024MB Kingston DDR-RAM > GeForce 4 Ti4600 > Sound Blaster Audigy > Logitech Momo Wheel > > I have tried the following: > Increasing/Decreasing Anti-aliasing and Other Video Settings > Re-installing Video Card Drivers > Re-installing Sound Card Drivers > Running the 3D thing selecting a lower bit rate (16-bit down rom 32) > > None of these work. However, on my last attempt, it took five 1:35 (suck, > eh?) second laps of Monza before it froze up. > > Basically, sound freezes, video freezes, and these usually last five to > seven seconds. Once I get one, they will periodically occur approximately > every 10 seconds after the last one has finished until I exit the program. > > Regards, > J.R. > >
Update Setting my 3D Settings (Monitor max 1280x1024) to 800x600, 16bit, 75Hz, still freezes me after five laps (approx. six minutes into playing). Length of freeze is still a good seven seconds. J.R.
Haqsau 17 Oct 2003 16:34 UTC↳ reply to J.R.#51627
Try turning of all unnecessary background stuff. "J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bmp2kp$[email hidden]... > F1C 99-02 > > J.R. > >
"J.R." wrote:
Quoted text (12 lines)> > I find that periodically, while racing on a track, the game would freeze. It > would freeze for about five seconds, then continue. Unfortunately, 5s is > added to the timer. This is ridiculously dumb, I'm looking for a solution as > we speak. > > My hardware acceleration is low, antialiasing off, the other anti-something > option is also off. > > Thanks, > > J.R.
Hi J.R. Are you running online? F1C has a "feature" that pauses the sim, but not the clock, when a driver enters the session. All drivers experience this. I've approached a hard corner, I think it was the first nasty right hander at A1, with a competitor in my mirrors, paused while a new driver entered the race, and suddenly was following that same car into the corner. So apparently not each driver has exactly the same pause. But I believe all drivers experience a similar problem. Apparent also is that collision is turned off when this happens. When this happens to me, I try to hold the wheel and pedals in the position they were in when the sim froze. If the pause is happening in a different situation, never mind. Larry
Try disabling Fog Table Emulation yet? (right click desktop, properties, settings, advanced, GeForce Settings tab, D3d, uncheck Enable Fog Table Emulation) "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Try turning of all unnecessary background stuff. > > > "J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bmp2kp$[email hidden]... > > F1C 99-02 > > > > J.R. > > > > > >
J.R. 18 Oct 2003 15:37 UTC↳ reply to J.R.#51475
Running at a good 50 (100 when I want to, by turning everything off) FPS now. It's just the freezing that's screwing me up. I just disabled the fog thing and I'll try it out. Cheers, J.R.
J.R. 19 Oct 2003 16:31 UTC#51303
Running at a good 100 FPS now. It's just the freezing that's screwing me up. I diabled the fog thing and it still does it periodically. Has anyone else EVER encountered this problem? Help! For reference, please visit the "Sorry, One More Problem" thread below. Thank you! Cheers, J.R.
"J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote in news:bmue9k$[email hidden]:
Quoted text (15 lines)> Running at a good 100 FPS now. > > It's just the freezing that's screwing me up. > > I diabled the fog thing and it still does it periodically. Has anyone > else EVER encountered this problem? Help! > > For reference, please visit the "Sorry, One More Problem" thread > below. Thank you! > > Cheers, > J.R. > > >
glad you got the fps up. Try going into directx and turning DOWN the sound hardware acceleration one or two notches...start>run>dxsetup should get you there. dh
Andrew 19 Oct 2003 16:50 UTC↳ reply to J.R.#51305
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:31:31 +0800, "J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote: >Running at a good 100 FPS now. >Good - err, what is? >I diabled the fog thing and it still does it periodically. Has anyone else >EVER encountered this problem? Help! >In what? >For reference, please visit the "Sorry, One More Problem" thread below. >Thank you! >Why not keep whatever you are talking about in that thread then? -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.
"J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote in news:bmvf34$[email hidden]: > I think it > is. :) > > J.R. > As I have done just now, with many email/newsgroup readers you can highlight JUST the relavent portion and then click the reply button. Then only the part you highlight is shown in the above quote. I'm using Xnews currently. So rather than having to scrolllllll down long posts, courtesy would also imply using this or some other method to trim the extra postage.
EldredP 20 Oct 2003 04:07 UTC↳ reply to J.R.#51285
In article <bmue9k$[email hidden]>, "J.R." <[email hidden]> writes: >Running at a good 100 FPS now. 100?!? In N2K3? Man, I'm jealous...~30 fps here. :-( Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
I wish OE had this feature :( I'm a registered Agent user, but I despise the program so much I can't bring myself to use it. What is the best FREEWARE reader out there these days, that does selective quoting ? I have no aversion to switching, I just haven't found anything truly better. Offline features are also nice to have, but not mandatory. -Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> "J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:bmvf34$[email hidden]: > > > I think it > > is. :) > > > > J.R. > > > > As I have done just now, with many email/newsgroup readers you can > highlight JUST the relavent portion and then click the reply button. Then > only the part you highlight is shown in the above quote. I'm using Xnews > currently. > So rather than having to scrolllllll down long posts, courtesy would also > imply using this or some other method to trim the extra postage.
J.R. 20 Oct 2003 05:24 UTC↳ reply to EldredP#51342
F1C :) J.R. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <bmue9k$[email hidden]>, "J.R."<[email hidden]>
Quoted text (18 lines)> writes: > > >Running at a good 100 FPS now. > > 100?!? In N2K3? Man, I'm jealous...~30 fps here. :-( > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Member > Screamers Racing League > IICC League > GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 > ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 > Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress > N2k3 rank:in progress > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 20 Oct 2003 16:01 UTC↳ reply to J.R.#51366
Quoted text (14 lines)>F1C :) > >J.R. > >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> In article <bmue9k$[email hidden]>, "J.R." ><[email hidden]> >> writes: >> >> >Running at a good 100 FPS now. >> >> 100?!? In N2K3? Man, I'm jealous...~30 fps here. :-( >>
You know, I read it as N2K3, but gave my fps for F1c... Yeah, about 30. In N2k2 I think I got about 50 fps. So, your framerate is STILL more than 3 times mine in F1c. I'd probably have to set every graphics option to LOW to get that... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:15:12 -0400, Larry wrote: > What is the best FREEWARE reader out there these days, that does selective > quoting ? > > I have no aversion to switching, I just haven't found anything truly better. > Hi Larry, it's called BRAINS and just about everyone is using it these days, you might be surprised how easy it is once you get used to it! ;-) Personally & seriously, I use slrn which is freeware and lets you choose your editor of choice (I use emacs) so you can snip unnecessary parts of the post quickly. All the best, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61
J.R. 21 Oct 2003 04:23 UTC↳ reply to J.R.#51180
So can anyone help? :( This happens with Warcraft 3 as well as F1C too, btw. Video/Sound acceleration doesn't seem to be helping at all. J.R.
"J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote in news:bmue9k$[email hidden]:
Quoted text (14 lines)> Running at a good 100 FPS now. > > It's just the freezing that's screwing me up. > > I diabled the fog thing and it still does it periodically. Has anyone > else EVER encountered this problem? Help! > > For reference, please visit the "Sorry, One More Problem" thread > below. Thank you! > > Cheers, > J.R. > >
That jogged the ol memory for a moment. Back when Win95 first came out...When I was a young man.... hehehehe There were lots of users who had small pauses...little freezes in games and on the desktop. Usually it was something like a missing netcard. Windows THOUGHT it had nic installed so it would scan every once and awhile to verify the connection. The problems would occur if you were offline and had no access to the net or you removed a nic...then Windows would keep searching for the hardware/connection til you shut the sucker down. So as far as I know, this sort of problem was fixed long ago...but do you have an onboard nic as well as a nic card? perhaps you have a conflict somewhere...and if I recall, you are using a soundcard right? Make sure in the bios that the onboard sound system(if your motherboard comes equiped with onboard sound) is disabled. dave henrie

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