Any AI files for the oval GPL circuits?

Has any clever person created any AI files for any of the oval tracks? -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

> Has any clever person created any AI files for any of the oval tracks? So you actually DO race the ovals, Bruce ? :)))) -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

Hi! Could you please make it available for download on any GPL-related site and post the url here? I don't know if I'm stupid or something but I cannot find your Tally-AI-post from Jan 18th. TIA! Regards Crash

> Hi! > Could you please make it available for download on any GPL-related site > and post the url here? I don't know if I'm stupid or something but I > cannot find your Tally-AI-post from Jan 18th. TIA! Neither can I, Stephen, if you don't have a place to put them up for DL, send a notice to Erik Frechette over at "The Pits" and he will make them available ASAP... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy

i downloaded the zips, installed them, go into the race, then, they all took off like a bat out of hell, then only to find out that most of them crashed in the first turn, this was at tally and mich, it seems when they hit the bank they crash? what fun is that? is there a cure or is this just how it is?? rod

And it's not just crashing in corners either -- at Talladega they all seem to crash into invisible walls at random. The resulting carnage is amusing the first time but immediately loses its charm. In any case, I've found the files to be of little value in terms of actually being able to compete with the AI. >i downloaded the zips, installed them, go into the race, then, they all took

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>off like a bat out of hell, >then only to find out that most of them crashed in the first turn, this was >at tally and mich, it seems >when they hit the bank they crash? what fun is that? is there a cure or is >this just how it is?? >rod

If you are talking about all the car's suspension, then it's pretty normal. It's related to the old TRK and track architecture when updated to GPL. On real GPL tracks the banking you have around the corners is very smooth. In Nascar Racing 3 (or NR99), the track is still very saccadic. The suspension movement is really how it should be on such a track. The numbers of polygon you pass through at such speed makes almost for high-frequency bumps, results of the flat polygons. In the Nascar series, you don't see it because the Z-axis does not exist, but when you put those same tracks in a real 3d environment then you discover the little flaws in the tracks. All the bumps everywhere (take a look at Michigan out of T4 and into T1). But if your talking about the AI bounce, then well.... we can't do anything for that ;) -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Actually about 4 cars survived the 1st turn, but a lap later, the Brabham suddenly fell apart when doing 320. I mean, it just froze into stone on the spot. It didn't fly off, it didn't break or brake, it just stopped within 20 metres and retired. Where can I get those brakes? :-) Also, the cars bounce around like they are on Belgian "kasseien" instead of a cement or tarmac. OTOH, I saw a fastest lap of 48.2 done by Steward and Clark, so IF they survive, they should be pretty OK.

I posted the aI for Taledega and Michigan to this newsgroup. 18th Jan for Taly earlier for Michigan -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

Given the opportunity to have the AI competitive, yes, sure I would, Olav. It would be the closest that I could get to in my imagination to the Indy cars of the mid-to-late 1960s; after the roadster era yet before wings appeared. A pity that Indianapolis Motor Speedway isn't available. Or is it? -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- > > Has any clever person created any AI files for any of the oval tracks? > So you actually DO race the ovals, Bruce ? :)))) > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove spam when replying -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

Thank you, Stephen. I'll have a search for them. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

Found Tally, stephen, but no sign of Michigan. Any chance of another post or sending via e-mail please? -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

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Ok, *that's* why I didn't remember downloading... Aol automatically blocks large binaries. That's a good thing, but now I have to go through all the steps to find it again...:) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I had tried these files from when they were first posted, and was also quite amused by the rocket take offs and smashes. I saved one replay where Jimmy sits still, then rockets into the air with flaming engine for about 20 secs before crashing down, without having even moved or been hit by anything!! Very freaky stuff, but not really useful for any racing. Once they get their act together though, the AI are very damn quick, maybe too quick... On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:45:54 GMT, "Stephen Warrior"

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>And it's not just crashing in corners either -- at Talladega they all seem >to crash into invisible walls at random. The resulting carnage is amusing >the first time but immediately loses its charm. In any case, I've found the >files to be of little value in terms of actually being able to compete with >the AI. >>i downloaded the zips, installed them, go into the race, then, they all >took >>off like a bat out of hell, >>then only to find out that most of them crashed in the first turn, this was >>at tally and mich, it seems >>when they hit the bank they crash? what fun is that? is there a cure or is >>this just how it is?? >>rod

The behaviour of the AI in this Talledega file is reminiscent of the AI when the very first beta of GPL was "made available". The AI (and the player's car) had the ability rocket into space like a flaming 4-wheeled space shuttle. Sometimes they would sit, hundreds of feet above the ground, rotating on their longitudinal axis. It was quite amazing to see and, even after the game was released, I held onto the beta version simply to be able to entertained by the bizarre behaviour of the AI. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- > I had tried these files from when they were first posted, and was also > quite amused by the rocket take offs and smashes. I saved one replay > where Jimmy sits still, then rockets into the air with flaming engine > for about 20 secs before crashing down, without having even moved or > been hit by anything!! Very freaky stuff, but not really useful for > any racing. Once they get their act together though, the AI are very > damn quick, maybe too quick... > On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:45:54 GMT, "Stephen Warrior" > >And it's not just crashing in corners either -- at Talladega they all seem > >to crash into invisible walls at random. The resulting carnage is amusing > >the first time but immediately loses its charm. In any case, I've found the > >files to be of little value in terms of actually being able to compete with > >the AI. > >>i downloaded the zips, installed them, go into the race, then, they all > >took > >>off like a bat out of hell, > >>then only to find out that most of them crashed in the first turn, this was > >>at tally and mich, it seems > >>when they hit the bank they crash? what fun is that? is there a cure or is > >>this just how it is?? > >>rod -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

My provider blocks binarie files also, is there any way I still can get these binarie files? Andre

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If anyone would be kind enoguh to send me these AI's, I'll have a look at them and see what can be done.. I tried to find the orgiginal post but had no luck. -- All the best, Ed Solheim The Paddock - a legendary site.... ** Proud member of the GPLEA ** (Remove SPAM-GUARD in address to reply) > The behaviour of the AI in this Talledega file is reminiscent of the AI when > the very first beta of GPL was "made available". The AI (and the player's > car) had the ability rocket into space like a flaming 4-wheeled space > shuttle. Sometimes they would sit, hundreds of feet above the ground, > rotating on their longitudinal axis. It was quite amazing to see and, even > after the game was released, I held onto the beta version simply to be able > to entertained by the bizarre behaviour of the AI.

>My provider blocks binarie files also, is there any way I still can >get these binarie files? >Andre Should be available at www.remarq.com

Some nice blokes sendt me the Talladega files yesterday (I got them now folks!:) These new lp-files actually does'nt do a thing at all. The number of records in the file is about 1/3 of what it should be, so GPL ignores them alltogether. and use a "default" line.. all the car will just follow the centerline of the trk file. The only thing that make these Ai's go any faster than the 40 or 80mph default speed it the "rels" in the track.ini file... Try for yourselfs... copy the *all* lp-files from the Ring or something into the 'Dega directory and you notice that nothing changes.. In otherwords... these files do zip. -- All the best, Ed Solheim The Paddock - a legendary site.... ** Proud member of the GPLEA ** > I posted the aI for Taledega and Michigan to this newsgroup. > 18th Jan for Taly earlier for Michigan

You could probably find it by doing a search on DEJANEWS for the subject title. I usually use a 'batch session' download, and I have it set not to automatically download attached files. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Thanks Ed, for that that information. Is there anything that you can come up with for us? -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- > Some nice blokes sendt me the Talladega files yesterday (I got them now > folks!:) > These new lp-files actually does'nt do a thing at all. > The number of records in the file is about 1/3 of what it should be, so GPL > ignores them alltogether. and use a "default" line.. all the car will just > follow the centerline of the trk file. > The only thing that make these Ai's go any faster than the 40 or 80mph > default speed it the "rels" in the track.ini file... > Try for yourselfs... copy the *all* lp-files from the Ring or something into > the 'Dega directory and you notice that nothing changes.. > In otherwords... these files do zip. > -- > All the best, > Ed Solheim > The Paddock - a legendary site.... > ** Proud member of the GPLEA ** > > I posted the aI for Taledega and Michigan to this newsgroup. > > 18th Jan for Taly earlier for Michigan -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----