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Force feedback without pedals?

6 posts by 5 people · 15 Jan 2000 - 26 Jan 2000

Luis Soto 15 Jan 2000#514295
Does anyone know of a force feedback wheel that can either be used WITHOUT the pedals or that can be modified to NOT have pedals? So many people seem to be unhappy with most of the pedals included with these things, and I can see why... This could be useful for people who, like myself, like to play flight sims as well, and are very happy with their CH pedals, and others who I know can't or would rather not use the pedals, for X or Y reason. I currently run the GP1 wheel from Thrustmaster and the CH pedals, with a Saitek stick & throttle combo for flying. The ideal rig for me would be a USB FF wheel without pedals (preferrably like the Logitech), and then be able to use the CH pedals for gas and brake (and rudder for flying, of course), connected thru the standard game port. I'd keep the Saitek where it is, as I already have a USB port busy with a MS Sidewinder game controller. ...I guess I just want to have my cake and eat it, too! Any help would be appreciated, and I hope this helps to inspire some ideas. L.S.
The new Guillemot Ferrari wheel has a built-in "redundant" set of pedals as levers behind the steering wheel. If you unplug the main pedals, then these paddles take over as the pedals. It also has F1-style paddle shifters. (I don't even want to think about trying to drive with the pedal paddles and the shifter paddles at the same time!!!!) This is the only wheel that I know of that has what you want out of the box. Too bad it is hard to find, plagued with reliability concerns and has a few questionable design features. Overall it is great looking, very sturdy, not over-priced, has a real shifter, too... It's like it is 110% of what we would all want for 90% of the price, but the widely reported weak FFB problems, steering resolution problems, steering calibration problems suggest much caution!!! I still haven't decided whether I can keep mine (it may be ultimately unsuitable for GPL and N3/NL). Marc.
N. Coker 16 Jan 2000#514467
Louis, You can have your cake and eat it too :)) You can have the FF wheel and use CH pedals at the same time. I have the Logitech FF plugged into USB port and use TM Pro pedals (highly modified) plugged into the game port. GPL allows you to assign controls from multiple devices. Nafi Coker >Does anyone know of a force feedback wheel that can either be used WITHOUT >the pedals or that can be modified to NOT have pedals? So many people seem >to be unhappy with most of the pedals included with these things, and I can >see why... >This could be useful for people who, like myself, like to play flight sims >as well, and are very happy with their CH pedals, and others who I know >can't or would rather not use the pedals, for X or Y reason. I currently >run the GP1 wheel from Thrustmaster and the CH pedals, with a Saitek stick & >throttle combo for flying. The ideal rig for me would be a USB FF wheel >without pedals (preferrably like the Logitech), and then be able to use the >CH pedals for gas and brake (and rudder for flying, of course), connected >thru the standard game port. I'd keep the Saitek where it is, as I already >have a USB port busy with a MS Sidewinder game controller. >...I guess I just want to have my cake and eat it, too! >Any help would be appreciated, and I hope this helps to inspire some ideas. >L.S.
Luis Soto 16 Jan 2000#514468
Thanks everyone who responded, for their advice! L.S.
Guillemot Ferrari FF Wheel !! It's great, and it's working fine with and without paddles ! Try for yourself !

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