LeMans 24 Hour -- the hype dies

So I finally get to see LeMans at a friend's house (I never bother to ask him where he gets these things anymore). I don't know how final this version was, all I got was "I just got it". Here's what I found, in no particular order. Ready? Keep in mind I only played it for about 20 minutes, which was all I could stomach. I barely fiddled with the championship mode, but it seemed cool that you could test drive the car before joining a team. I didn't play with the car settings, either. No mouse support in menus, kb only. To go to a previous menu, you have to scroll down and select "back", hitting esc doesn't always work. Controller setup screen: 3 sensitivity sliders to adjust - X axis, Y axis, and Deadzone. That's it. Of course the windows joystick was set to 2 axis 4 button (TM GP1 wheel). You can reconfigure the buttons, however. If I remember correctly, each axis can be configured separately as well, but since the GP1 doesn't have split axis I couldn't try that out. Let's drive! I only chose "Arcade" mode (there is no 'Quick Race' selection). I didn't see any options for car physics. To confirm previous threads, no, there is no***pit view. I couldn't find the bumper view, since I don't know the keys. Driving the car was a chore. Auto-reverse meant that hitting the brakes would make the car go backwards after it stopped (didn't see an option to turn it off, and I did have it on manual transmission). Now I get up to speed, turn the wheel slightly and WOAH the car instantly veers off to one side. It seems like the steering is just on/off, with nothing in between. I barely moved the wheel 10 degrees to one side and it just locks the wheels in that direction, even after messing with the sliders. Not just that, but when the throttle is jammed, it seems like the car has 4 wheel steering and the whole car just snakes sideways. Not in a wheelspin way, but the rear end actually steers(remember this is viewed from the outside, so I'm not imagining things). All 4 tires seem to 'float' over the surface, just like NFS, they don't interact with the ground at all. Need to reconfigure the controller while racing? Forget it. Press Esc, quit the race, then highlight 'Back' a few times just to get to the controller setup. I didn't race with any AI, but after *trying* to drive this thing by myself, why would I even bother. Oh yeah, when you quit out of the race, we get the awesome drive-by camera that NASCAR Revolution was so proud of! At least you can press ESC and skip it in this game. Anyways, that's all I could stand at the time. MAYBE I'll give it another go later. Infogrames decided to slap the TestDrive name onto this for the US, and it's a name it deserves. -bum Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Some comments: True. I have got a LWFF, but I couldn't find a split axis mode. No***pit mode indeed. But try to find the bumper view, it's the best view. You'll get used to this very quickly. I had some troubles too in the beginning, but after a couple of minutes it was no problem for me anymore. I had this in the beginning too, but after you adjust the sensitivity of the wheel, the steering is really good. I put the sensitivity of the x-axis on 50%. True, but not as bad as in NFS or DTR. You only need to do this once, so that is not a real problem. It's no GPL, but I think you really didn't test it enough. Without adjusting the sensitivity, the game is unplayable indeed. I'm curious how you will like it after you adjusted this so you can really try this game. I just played it again for a couple of hours and had a blast. Andre

On the following date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:51:27 +0100, said person(s) You didn't like DTR but you liked this garbage! Shoot me.. shoot me now. - James "Gunslinger" Wohlever Techware Motorsports http://techware.gtinsider.com Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to:

Another one bites the dust. I suppose it asked 5 times "do you really want to quit?" Thanks for the tips. If it was just one or two things it might be livable, but this is just too much. Slot

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> So I finally get to see LeMans at a friend's house (I never bother to > ask him where he gets these things anymore). I don't know how final > this version was, all I got was "I just got it". Here's what I found, > in no particular order. Ready? Keep in mind I only played it for about > 20 minutes, which was all I could stomach. I barely fiddled with the > championship mode, but it seemed cool that you could test drive the car > before joining a team. I didn't play with the car settings, either. > No mouse support in menus, kb only. To go to a previous menu, you have > to scroll down and select "back", hitting esc doesn't always work. > Controller setup screen: 3 sensitivity sliders to adjust - X axis, Y > axis, and Deadzone. That's it. Of course the windows joystick was set > to 2 axis 4 button (TM GP1 wheel). You can reconfigure the buttons, > however. If I remember correctly, each axis can be configured > separately as well, but since the GP1 doesn't have split axis I > couldn't try that out. > Let's drive! I only chose "Arcade" mode (there is no 'Quick Race' > selection). I didn't see any options for car physics. To confirm > previous threads, no, there is no***pit view. I couldn't find the > bumper view, since I don't know the keys. > Driving the car was a chore. Auto-reverse meant that hitting the brakes > would make the car go backwards after it stopped (didn't see an option > to turn it off, and I did have it on manual transmission). Now I get up > to speed, turn the wheel slightly and WOAH the car instantly veers off > to one side. It seems like the steering is just on/off, with nothing in > between. I barely moved the wheel 10 degrees to one side and it just > locks the wheels in that direction, even after messing with the > sliders. Not just that, but when the throttle is jammed, it seems like > the car has 4 wheel steering and the whole car just snakes sideways. > Not in a wheelspin way, but the rear end actually steers(remember this > is viewed from the outside, so I'm not imagining things). > All 4 tires seem to 'float' over the surface, just like NFS, they don't > interact with the ground at all. > Need to reconfigure the controller while racing? Forget it. Press Esc, > quit the race, then highlight 'Back' a few times just to get to the > controller setup. > I didn't race with any AI, but after *trying* to drive this thing by > myself, why would I even bother. > Oh yeah, when you quit out of the race, we get the awesome drive-by > camera that NASCAR Revolution was so proud of! At least you can press > ESC and skip it in this game. > Anyways, that's all I could stand at the time. MAYBE I'll give it > another go later. Infogrames decided to slap the TestDrive name onto > this for the US, and it's a name it deserves. > -bum > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

Well actually that's right... I didn't have fun with DTR at all. No sense of speed, boring tracks, dull graphics, etc, we've discussed this long enough. Driving 30-second ovals just isn't fun for me. Lemans is what racing is all about. Speed, twisty tracks, bumper to bumper racing. Yesterday an AI car was on the left of me. I steered to the left, ramming him. Felt great with ff on. But after that, he rammed me back!!! He rammed me into the grass and I spinned. This was a really great experience. Andre PS: BANG! On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:34:34 -0500, James Wohlever

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>On the following date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:51:27 +0100, said person(s) >>I just played it again for a couple of hours and had a blast. >You didn't like DTR but you liked this garbage! >Shoot me.. shoot me now. >- James "Gunslinger" Wohlever >Techware Motorsports >http://techware.gtinsider.com >Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to:

Ok, now James is going to shoot himself for real!!!!!!!!!!! You should realise how dangerous a post like this could be in a newsgroup like this. Marc.

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> Well actually that's right... I didn't have fun with DTR at all. No > sense of speed, boring tracks, dull graphics, etc, we've discussed > this long enough. Driving 30-second ovals just isn't fun for me. > Lemans is what racing is all about. Speed, twisty tracks, bumper to > bumper racing. Yesterday an AI car was on the left of me. I steered to > the left, ramming him. Felt great with ff on. But after that, he > rammed me back!!! He rammed me into the grass and I spinned. > This was a really great experience. > Andre > PS: BANG! > On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:34:34 -0500, James Wohlever > >On the following date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:51:27 +0100, said person(s) > >>I just played it again for a couple of hours and had a blast. > >You didn't like DTR but you liked this garbage! > >Shoot me.. shoot me now. > >- James "Gunslinger" Wohlever > >Techware Motorsports > >http://techware.gtinsider.com > >Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to:

I'm sure I'll get over it :) But seriously, James, don't shoot yourself. We all love you. Andre On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:50:55 GMT, "Marc Collins"

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>Ok, now James is going to shoot himself for real!!!!!!!!!!! You should >realise how dangerous a post like this could be in a newsgroup like this. >Marc. >> Well actually that's right... I didn't have fun with DTR at all. No >> sense of speed, boring tracks, dull graphics, etc, we've discussed >> this long enough. Driving 30-second ovals just isn't fun for me. >> Lemans is what racing is all about. Speed, twisty tracks, bumper to >> bumper racing. Yesterday an AI car was on the left of me. I steered to >> the left, ramming him. Felt great with ff on. But after that, he >> rammed me back!!! He rammed me into the grass and I spinned. >> This was a really great experience. >> Andre >> PS: BANG! >> On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:34:34 -0500, James Wohlever >> >On the following date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:51:27 +0100, said person(s) >> >>I just played it again for a couple of hours and had a blast. >> >You didn't like DTR but you liked this garbage! >> >Shoot me.. shoot me now. >> >- James "Gunslinger" Wohlever >> >Techware Motorsports >> >http://techware.gtinsider.com >> >Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to:

No surprise. The movies look like typical "Test Drive"-type arcade racing. I certainly hope the WSC guys get it right. -- ----------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/ ----------------------------------- > So I finally get to see LeMans at a friend's house (I never bother to > ask him where he gets these things anymore). I don't know how final [] Anyways, that's all I could stand at the time. MAYBE I'll give it