GPL How fast will the AI get?

With the global hype system with GPL is there a limit to how fast the AI will go or will they just keep getting faster and faster as I get faster? Do they get to a point where their lap times don't improve? At the moment I am stuck between 10th and 14th position due to the AI improving when I do. This isn't a problem though as I just love racing GPL and I love the challenge and I don't want to slow down the AI because once I have beaten the AI the challange will be over as On-line racing isn't an option for me at the bottom of Africa here. I am just interested to know how fast the AI will get. Chris

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> With the global hype system with GPL is there a limit to how fast the > AI > will go or will they just keep getting faster and faster as I get > faster? > Do they get to a point where their lap times don't improve? > At the moment I am stuck between 10th and 14th position due to the AI > improving when I do. This isn't a problem though as I just love > racing GPL > and I love the challenge and I don't want to slow down the AI because > once I > have beaten the AI the challange will be over as On-line racing isn't > an > option for me at the bottom of Africa here. I am just interested to > know > how fast the AI will get.

My understanding of GPL is that the AI drive at a % of your speed, as determined by the global hype settings. AFAIK there is no minimum or maximum speed or laptime they can achieve, if you keep getting faster, so will they relative to your laptimes as set in the global hype. 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

I would say, based on posts where the AI has been lapping at speeds we can only dream of because of clock smashes, that the AI can eventually drive quicker than any of us. -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

So unless you reinstall or start a new player you will never beat the AI with Global Hype working? As it will always be that much faster than your best laps.

It is possible to edit the AI to slow them down or speed them up. I know they can go pretty fast. I have seen the Lotus at over 230mph (after editing) -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

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>> At the moment I am stuck between 10th and 14th position due to the AI >> improving when I do. This isn't a problem though as I just love >> racing GPL >> and I love the challenge and I don't want to slow down the AI because >> once I >> have beaten the AI the challange will be over as On-line racing isn't >> an >> option for me at the bottom of Africa here. I am just interested to >> know >> how fast the AI will get. >My understanding of GPL is that the AI drive at a % of your speed, as >determined by the global hype settings. AFAIK there is no minimum >or maximum speed or laptime they can achieve, if you keep getting >faster, so will they relative to your laptimes as set in the global >hype.

So if you're a 10th place driver, andthe AI improves WITH you, you'll STILL be a 10th place driver? Unless you make a DRASTIC improvement...? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I don't agree. What was true with 1.0 is no longer true in 1.2. The AI are now randomly programmed to make mistakes and they DO! I personally won twice again the AI on differenet tracks and different levels and I know lots of people do better. Laps, laps and more laps ! That's how it pays off !

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> > I would say, based on posts where the AI has been lapping at speeds we > > can only dream of because of clock smashes, that the AI can eventually > > drive quicker than any of us. > > -- > So unless you reinstall or start a new player you will never beat the AI > with Global Hype working? As it will always be that much faster than your > best laps.

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:45:10 -0500, Alain Genouille I agree with Chris, the AI behaves differently in 1.2. If anything they're not keeping up my speed at monza at them moment. I have been trying to get the AI to Lap at 1.27.50 downwards. And I can't even get them to lap at 1.28.00 which is a pain. Plus I am quite bored with the predictability of their driving. Has anyone seriously tampered with the AI?I am sure some of you guys out there have got modified .ini files for the ai which could make things a bit more competitive on the track. Mauricio.

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>I don't agree. What was true with 1.0 is no longer true in 1.2. The AI are >now randomly programmed to make mistakes and they DO! I personally won twice >again the AI on differenet tracks and different levels and I know lots of >people do better. >Laps, laps and more laps ! That's how it pays off ! >> > I would say, based on posts where the AI has been lapping at speeds we >> > can only dream of because of clock smashes, that the AI can eventually >> > drive quicker than any of us. >> > -- >> So unless you reinstall or start a new player you will never beat the AI >> with Global Hype working? As it will always be that much faster than your >> best laps.

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> >> At the moment I am stuck between 10th and 14th position due to the > > AI > >> improving when I do. This isn't a problem though as I just love > >> racing GPL > >> and I love the challenge and I don't want to slow down the AI > > because >once I > >> have beaten the AI the challange will be over as On-line racing > > isn't >an > >> option for me at the bottom of Africa here. I am just interested > > to >know > >> how fast the AI will get. > >My understanding of GPL is that the AI drive at a % of your speed, > as >determined by the global hype settings. AFAIK there is no minimum > >or maximum speed or laptime they can achieve, if you keep getting > >faster, so will they relative to your laptimes as set in the global > >hype. > So if you're a 10th place driver, andthe AI improves WITH you, you'll > STILL be > a 10th place driver? Unless you make a DRASTIC improvement...?

I probably didn't explain myself properly? What I meant was, the global hype stuff ensures a spread of AI driver speeds, but the general *spread* of AI speeds (not just one or two drivers) will go up as you improve and your laptimes improve. The overall AI times, laptimes, speed is based on a % of your own laptimes. IYSWIM? 8-) The laptimes for the ai are not always the same, they vary and are random, (but based within limits based on your laptimes) so you can vary where you are in the field, eg: you will not always be in 10th place or whatever. Alison explains it far, far better than me in the help file that came with one of the early GPL ai_tweak files (which is probably still available from her website). 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

There are at least two programs available, ones called AI Tweak by Alison Hine, that let you modify the AI drivers level. Search the Pits or Eagle Womens site.

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>On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:45:10 -0500, Alain Genouille >I agree with Chris, the AI behaves differently in 1.2. If anything >they're not keeping up my speed at monza at them moment. >I have been trying to get the AI to Lap at 1.27.50 downwards. And I >can't even get them to lap at 1.28.00 which is a pain. Plus I am quite >bored with the predictability of their driving. Has anyone seriously >tampered with the AI?I am sure some of you guys out there have got >modified .ini files for the ai which could make things a bit more >competitive on the track. >Mauricio. >>I don't agree. What was true with 1.0 is no longer true in 1.2. The AI

are >>now randomly programmed to make mistakes and they DO! I personally won twice

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>>again the AI on differenet tracks and different levels and I know lots of >>people do better. >>Laps, laps and more laps ! That's how it pays off ! >>> > I would say, based on posts where the AI has been lapping at speeds

we >>> > can only dream of because of clock smashes, that the AI can eventually >>> > drive quicker than any of us. >>> > -- >>> So unless you reinstall or start a new player you will never beat the AI >>> with Global Hype working? As it will always be that much faster than your >>> best laps. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

I actually got taken out of a race at Monza because of an AI mistake. I was close behind Chris Amon on the start, and in Curva Grande, he got very loose and had to fight the car. He lost a ton of speed and I couldn't get my car slowed down in time to avoid him and crashed. What fun! :) Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrashes.cjb.net

I have been using these programs and they're quite good, but I have been unable to get the AI to lap under 1.28 inMonza with those. I only managed to achieved that by setting the npt_override in gpl_ai.ini to 0.97777. I started with 0.99999 and decreased the value until they were lapping at a desired time. But at first when I set the initial value to 0.99 the AI were going around Monza in 1.12 and they can even go faster! It's fun to watch J.Clark entering the first Lesmo at a 140mph and carrying about 160mph through it. Also the original AI settings seems to make J.Clark by far the more aggressive driver. Based on that I made a few driver.ini files in which all the drivers would have the same skill settings as J.Clark, and it is quite good for off line racing. The only problem is that a bit of the randomness is taken out of drivers as you get more and more used to them and they become more predictable. When that happens I do another mix of skill settings in the driver.ini. I found many interesting combinations that make races more fun. Mauricio.

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>There are at least two programs available, ones called AI Tweak by >Alison Hine, that let you modify the AI drivers level. Search the >Pits or Eagle Womens site. >>On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:45:10 -0500, Alain Genouille >>I agree with Chris, the AI behaves differently in 1.2. If anything >>they're not keeping up my speed at monza at them moment. >>I have been trying to get the AI to Lap at 1.27.50 downwards. And I >>can't even get them to lap at 1.28.00 which is a pain. Plus I am quite >>bored with the predictability of their driving. Has anyone seriously >>tampered with the AI?I am sure some of you guys out there have got >>modified .ini files for the ai which could make things a bit more >>competitive on the track. >>Mauricio. >>>I don't agree. What was true with 1.0 is no longer true in 1.2. The AI >are >>>now randomly programmed to make mistakes and they DO! I personally won >twice >>>again the AI on differenet tracks and different levels and I know lots of >>>people do better. >>>Laps, laps and more laps ! That's how it pays off ! >>>> > I would say, based on posts where the AI has been lapping at speeds >we >>>> > can only dream of because of clock smashes, that the AI can >eventually >>>> > drive quicker than any of us. >>>> > -- >>>> So unless you reinstall or start a new player you will never beat the >AI >>>> with Global Hype working? As it will always be that much faster than >your >>>> best laps.