SIM RACING MAG has been shut down.

Eric, Sorry to hear your site is no more. You have been a generous contributor to the GPL community. Xoom did the same thing to Tim Weatley awhile back. Xoom has demonstrated what appears to be arbitrary, heavy handed and tactless behavior towards it's customers by acting terminate a web site without warning or discussion. Therefore, in my opinion, they should be blacklisted by those of us who have been denied the fruits of your labor. Let's spread the word. Marty

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> It's with anger and sadness > that I have to inform you that > formely : > [link lost in import] is > shut down from the host : > [link lost in import] The > reason ? Here's the quote : > "I apologize for the long > response time. > Your site was locked out for > violating the Xoom Terms of > Service > agreement, specifically for > posting copyrighted software. > Please read the TOS - > [link lost in import] > The XOOM.com TOS Staff retains > the right to terminate any > account found > in violation of the Terms of > Service, and we will not > discuss any site > termination. If you wish to > join XOOM.com again, feel free > to do so, > but please abide by the Terms > of Service." > That basically means, someone > have brought a complaint to > xoom, and xoom > has shutdown my website, no > question asked (to me) nor any > warning of a > violation of Terms of Service. > I'm still wondering, what was > the copyright > software that really annoyed > someone to bring that > complaint? > Anyway, damage has been done, > and "gracefully" that person is > now more > happy with this. He just threw > a bomb on my work. That means > SRM, SRM Challenge is temporary > out of service. > At this point, I'm still > searching for a new web host, > but it's gonna be difficult : > without the zip files (replays, > setups) the website takes : 72 > MB as it is right now. > with the zips it's 110 MB > more... I have in excess of 225 > HMTL pages (part of > the frame format) and countless > images. > Take care all, > Eric

It's a damn shame Eric. You have put a lot into the site, the support of GPL and done much for all of us sim racers. I certainly wish you the best in your search for a new and more considerate host. John Moore

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> It's with anger and sadness that I have to inform you that formely : > http://www.simracingmag.com is shut down from the host : > http://members.xoom.com. The reason ? Here's the quote : > "I apologize for the long response time. > Your site was locked out for violating the Xoom Terms of Service > agreement, specifically for posting copyrighted software. > Please read the TOS - http://xoom.com/TOS > The XOOM.com TOS Staff retains the right to terminate any account > found > in violation of the Terms of Service, and we will not discuss any site > termination. If you wish to join XOOM.com again, feel free to do so, > but please abide by the Terms of Service." > That basically means, someone have brought a complaint to xoom, and > xoom > has shutdown my website, no question asked (to me) nor any warning of > a > violation of Terms of Service. I'm still wondering, what was the > copyright > software that really annoyed someone to bring that complaint? > Anyway, damage has been done, and "gracefully" that person is now more > happy with this. He just threw a bomb on my work. That means SRM, SRM > Challenge is temporary out of service. > At this point, I'm still searching for a new web host, but it's gonna > be difficult : > without the zip files (replays, setups) the website takes : 72 MB as > it is right now. > with the zips it's 110 MB more... I have in excess of 225 HMTL pages > (part of > the frame format) and countless images. > Take care all, > Eric

this will probably surprise NO one, but i have heard of this before. more than once. is it possible there is someone out there with an axe to grind? trying to get'other' sites dropped? as i understand, no PROOF is needed in telling a ISP- 'someone' has illegal software on your site....just the claim has shut down 2 other pages i know of. i believe one for sure was with same as you eric...this sucks BIGtime. anyone can shut down a site with that mentallity! and no communication with the management afterwards is accepted. sounds like a programmed response IMO Bo

Please loose the HTML, I can't read a thing you are posting.

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><!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> ><html> >It's with anger and sadness that I have to inform you that formely : <A HREF="http://www.simracingmag.com">http://www.simracingmag.com</A> >is shut down from the host : <A HREF="http://members.xoom.com">http://members.xoom.com</A>. The reason ? Here's >the quote : ><p>"I apologize for the long response time. ><p>Your site was locked out for violating the Xoom Terms of Service ><br>agreement, specifically for posting copyrighted software. ><p>Please read the TOS - <A HREF="http://xoom.com/TOS">http://xoom.com/TOS</A> ><p>The XOOM.com TOS Staff retains the right to terminate any account found ><br>in violation of the Terms of Service, and we will not discuss any site ><br>termination.&nbsp; If you wish to join XOOM.com again, feel free to >do so, ><br>but please abide by the Terms of Service." ><p>That basically means, someone have brought a complaint to xoom, and >xoom ><br>has shutdown my website, no question asked (to me)&nbsp; nor any warning >of a ><br>violation of Terms of Service. I'm still wondering, what was the copyright ><br>software that really annoyed someone to bring that complaint? ><p>Anyway, damage has been done, and "gracefully" that person is now more ><br>happy with this. He just threw a bomb on my work. That means SRM, SRM >Challenge is temporary out of service. ><p>At this point, I'm still searching for a new web host, but it's gonna >be difficult : ><br>without the zip files (replays, setups) the website takes : 72 MB as >it is right now. ><br>with the zips it's 110 MB more... I have in excess of 225 HMTL pages >(part of ><br>the frame format) and countless images. ><p>Take care all, ><p>Eric ><br>&nbsp; ><br>&nbsp;</html>

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Unfortunately that is the mentality that Xoom has, from the overuse of illegal activity their members has. It's written in the TOS that people agree with, but it is clearly un-ethical. That's why all Xoom member should back up their files. It happened to Tim Wheatley also I think. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

So what copywritten software were you posting? It's with anger and sadness that I have to inform you that formely : http://www.simracingmag.com is shut down from the host : http://members.xoom.com. The reason ? Here's the quote : "I apologize for the long response time. Your site was locked out for violating the Xoom Terms of Service agreement, specifically for posting copyrighted software. Please read the TOS - http://xoom.com/TOS The XOOM.com TOS Staff retains the right to terminate any account found in violation of the Terms of Service, and we will not discuss any site termination. If you wish to join XOOM.com again, feel free to do so, but please abide by the Terms of Service." That basically means, someone have brought a complaint to xoom, and xoom has shutdown my website, no question asked (to me) nor any warning of a violation of Terms of Service. I'm still wondering, what was the copyright software that really annoyed someone to bring that complaint? Anyway, damage has been done, and "gracefully" that person is now more happy with this. He just threw a bomb on my work. That means SRM, SRM Challenge is temporary out of service. At this point, I'm still searching for a new web host, but it's gonna be difficult : without the zip files (replays, setups) the website takes : 72 MB as it is right now. with the zips it's 110 MB more... I have in excess of 225 HMTL pages (part of the frame format) and countless images. Take care all, Eric

Being written in the TOS does not make it ironclad. You'd have a pretty good chance challenging in court. Of course, the cost is most likely not worth it. Sucks, really. -Tim

Well, the only one I can think of is in the links section : I was promoting Sierra/Papy by putting there respective logos and of course there links. As of the rest, no idea. Actually I never put any software, only links to an external website apart 1 that is : may be distributed freeware.... This could also be another way from xoom to shut down a website getting too big... Anyway, I might be on something else at the moment and will post development later on. Eric (no html link, since I have none <g>) webmaster.vcf < 1K Download

>> i believe one for sure was with same as you eric...this sucks >> BIGtime. anyone can shut down a site with that mentallity! >Unfortunately that is the mentality that Xoom has, from the overuse of >illegal activity their members has. It's written in the TOS that people >agree with, but it is clearly un-ethical. Not INTENTIONALLY starting an "ethics" thread, but I would think a company that has thousands of sites they're hosting probably has a pretty hard time checking into all of them. Also, since they're hosting is financially free, they should pretty much have the right to protect themselves and react quickly. As much as I personally DISAGREE with their actions, I would think that it's within their legal and "ethical" right to yank any site if they feel THEY could be threatened with a lawsuit. I personally think it's ETHICAL, it's just unfortunate they didn't even make an attempt to verify the accusation. Gunner

At this point, I'm still searching for a new web host, but it's gonna be difficult : without the zip files (replays, setups) the website takes : 72 MB as it is right now. with the zips it's 110 MB more... I have in excess of 225 HMTL pages (part of the frame format) and countless images. That's a HUGE website for a financially free hosting service to host. Later in the thread you made it sound like not all of it was at Xoom, is that true? Gunner

Hi Eric, I hope for all in the Sim-Racing community that you will find a new and better host!! You are worth it! Dirk --------------------------------------------- http://www.simracing.de http://members.tripod.de/dmu

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> At this point, I'm still searching for a new web host, but it's gonna be > difficult : > without the zip files (replays, setups) the website takes : 72 MB as it > is right now. > with the zips it's 110 MB more... I have in excess of 225 HMTL pages > (part of > the frame format) and countless images. > That's a HUGE website for a financially free hosting service to > host. Later in the thread you made it sound like not all of it was at Xoom, > is that true?

No everything was on xoom apart single CGI script I need to run surveys or submission form page, which is coming from my own ISP Cheers Eric webmaster.vcf < 1K Download

Homestead allows only 12 megs per site, but you can have unlimited sites. So you could create a "home" site with links to any number of other sites...It used to be online editing only, but you can now dload their editors. I'm not sure if you can use other products. dave henrie

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> > At this point, I'm still searching for a new web host, but it's gonna be > > difficult : > > without the zip files (replays, setups) the website takes : 72 MB as it > > is right now. > > with the zips it's 110 MB more... I have in excess of 225 HMTL pages > > (part of > > the frame format) and countless images. > > That's a HUGE website for a financially free hosting service to > > host. Later in the thread you made it sound like not all of it was at Xoom, > > is that true? > No everything was on xoom apart single CGI script I need to run surveys > or submission form page, which is coming from my own ISP > Cheers > Eric > > Gunner

Eric, a solution could be to take a (free)redirect address like http://simracingmag.cjb.net/ from http://www.cjb.net/ this way you can link up different (free)hosts under one URL I'm doing the same for my Alfa Romeo pages which are on three different hosts. Good Luck and see you back soon, Hans van Dam Ultimate GPL Linkspage http://users.bart.nl/~hansvd/links.html "Serpente" Alfa Romeo Techsite http://alfisti.cjb.net/

Try and find a *** sports network that will give you free hosting as well as unlimited webspace. Works for me... Skotty Flynn http://www.nascar-racing-sims.com "skotty20" on WON

This seems daft. Service providers have the ability to check what files are actually stored on any particular users site. They'd be stupid not to. To close down a site based upon a 'tip-off' from someone just seems plain irresponsible. Surely they should have checked for themselves first. -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Sounds OK to me. Sorry, man. I hope you can "resurface" sometime soon. I'll miss your site! Todd

I might be able to provide some web space. Let me check with my pard" how much space are we talking about?? drope me a line if you are interested. Michael (Oreoo) Justice

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> > At this point, I'm still searching for a new web host, but it's gonna be > > difficult : > > without the zip files (replays, setups) the website takes : 72 MB as it > > is right now. > > with the zips it's 110 MB more... I have in excess of 225 HMTL pages > > (part of > > the frame format) and countless images. > > That's a HUGE website for a financially free hosting service to > > host. Later in the thread you made it sound like not all of it was at Xoom, > > is that true? > No everything was on xoom apart single CGI script I need to run surveys > or submission form page, which is coming from my own ISP > Cheers > Eric > > Gunner

OK, I can read well, sorry, I see it is about 100 megs ( I can not function prior to coffee)

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> I might be able to provide some web space. Let me check with my pard" how much > space are we talking about?? > drope me a line if you are interested. > Michael (Oreoo) Justice > > > At this point, I'm still searching for a new web host, but it's gonna be > > > difficult : > > > without the zip files (replays, setups) the website takes : 72 MB as it > > > is right now. > > > with the zips it's 110 MB more... I have in excess of 225 HMTL pages > > > (part of > > > the frame format) and countless images. > > > That's a HUGE website for a financially free hosting service to > > > host. Later in the thread you made it sound like not all of it was at Xoom, > > > is that true? > > No everything was on xoom apart single CGI script I need to run surveys > > or submission form page, which is coming from my own ISP > > Cheers > > Eric > > > Gunner

Ouch...I think they're going on a rampage, Tim Wheatley's site got taken down too...maybe www.freeservers.com? -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "Yeah you won't find me I'm going MIA Tonight I'm leaving Going MIA Getting lost in you again Is better than being known" -Foo Fighters, "MIA" http://www.simracingmag.com is shut down from the host : http://members.xoom.com. The reason ? Here's the quote : Challenge is temporary out of service.