Any word on Skip Barber Racing School?

Is it a sim? Anyone see anything about it anywhere except the EB ad in PCGamer? * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

Here's a preview of it? jj http://www.operationsports.com/reviewvault/reviews.asp?game=skipbarbe... pc

I have heard it is a sim.

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I got the same error. I backed up to their home page, used their search box to look for "skip barber", and found the review immediately. My browser is showing a URL that appears to match the one that gave the error, so I don't know what's wrong with it. As for the game... I took one of Skip Barber's courses (Sebring in 1988), and I can't possibly say enough good things about his school. It's not cheap, but they really deliver an experience you would never forget. How that will translate into a PC sim is hard to guess. Personally, I'll buy a copy just on the strength of my experience with their school. (Of course, I've bought two PC games and one steering wheel with Mario's name on them just because of my respect for Mario, and they didn't work out very well.) Dave Wilson game=skipbarberracin Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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> >Here's a preview of it? > >jj > >http://www.operationsports.com/reviewvault/reviews.asp?game=skipbarbe... > g > >pc > error '80020009' > Exception occurred. > /reviewvault/reviews.asp, line 25 > ?? > Matt > ------- > GPLEA

When any error occurs trying to load up a page, I take the address and start back spacing to each "/" and trying it again. Sooner or later I'll get to the core page. Then it's only a matter of fishing through the links on the page to get to where I want to be. Just a suggestion, Mike -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

Boy, this one sure slipped in under the radar. I hadn't really even heard anything about it, but it sure looks great! 2000 may be a banner year for new sims... I sure hope so after the dissappointment that was 1999. Oh, sure, there were a few good games released, but nothing that broke new ground in terms of realism. -- Pat Dotson

: I got the same error. I backed up to their home page, used their : search box to look for "skip barber", and found the review : immediately. My browser is showing a URL that appears to match the one : that gave the error, so I don't know what's wrong with it. Worked for me as quoted. Odd. : As for the game... I took one of Skip Barber's courses (Sebring in : 1988), and I can't possibly say enough good things about his school. : It's not cheap, but they really deliver an experience you would never : forget. How that will translate into a PC sim is hard to guess. : Personally, I'll buy a copy just on the strength of my experience with : their school. (Of course, I've bought two PC games and one steering : wheel with Mario's name on them just because of my respect for Mario, : and they didn't work out very well.) Part of the game claims to take you through learning heel-and-toe downshifting. How are they going to do that without a clutch? I guess they can get it half right by having all those with split-axis pedals getting the simultaneous braking and throttle blip actions sorted out. Stephen

FACT SHEET Uniting competitive open-wheel racing with a proven training program, Skip Barber Racing fills the gap in high-end motorsport simulations. Skip Barber Racing is the first game to offer comprehensive driver training with professional evaluation and feedback as a catalyst into Barber's ultra-competitive developmental racing series. Employing sophisticated data acquisition and analysis, Barber's world-class coaching staff works to ensure that you become an expert in the art and science of open-wheel racing. Skip Barber features stunning 3D-accelerated graphics, realistic physics, and an unparalleled training program to form the ultimate motorsport simulation. Begin your training in Barber's Formula Dodge racecars and master such techniques as trail-braking, heel-and-toe downshifting, and finding the fastest racing line. Then, you're ready to compete in the Formula Race Series. As you progress from novice to veteran, you'll graduate to the pinnacle of Skip Barber's world-famous racing school, the Barber Dodge Pro Series. Customize your revolutionary Reynard Dodge to suit a specific track or driving style, and then use your training and skills to compete against others and achieve victory at the highest level! Uniting competitive open-wheel racing with a proven training program, Skip Barber Racing fills the gap in high-end motorsport simulations. Skip Barber Racing is the first game to offer comprehensive driver training with professional evaluation and feedback as a catalyst into Barber's ultra-competitive developmental racing series. Employing sophisticated data acquisition and analysis, Barber's world-class coaching staff works to ensure that you become an expert in the art and science of open-wheel racing. Skip Barber features stunning 3D-accelerated graphics, realistic physics, and an unparalleled training program to form the ultimate motorsport simulation. Begin your training in Barber's Formula Dodge racecars and master such techniques as trail-braking, heel-and-toe downshifting, and finding the fastest racing line. Then, you're ready to compete in the Formula Race Series. As you progress from novice to veteran, you'll graduate to the pinnacle of Skip Barber's world-famous racing school, the Barber Dodge Pro Series. Customize your revolutionary Reynard Dodge to suit a specific track or driving style, and then use your training and skills to compete against others and achieve victory at the highest level! Attend a simulation of Barber's 3-day Racing School & Cra Control Clinic. in-game instructors provide intelligent feedback & performance analysis. Compete in Barber's amateur "Formula Dodge" series. Compete in Barber's professional "Pro Dodge" series. Modify your car's setup with the optional help of an "intelligent" mechanic. Practive, race an event, or an entire season against computer or human opponents. Extensive on-line support using dedicated server technologies. Highly realistic physics model offers six degrees of freedom and employs accurate engineering specifications. 10 real tracks from across the U.S. Direct3D copliant graphics engine works with all hardware accelerators. Environmental sound & force feedback support.

(From Operation Sports) http://www.operationsports.com/reviewvault/reviews.asp?game=skipbarbe... pc Skip Barber Racing Preview MONDAY, JANUARY 10, 2000 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- OVERVIEW FACT SHEET Uniting competitive open-wheel racing with a proven training program, Skip Barber Racing fills the gap in high-end motorsport simulations. Skip Barber Racing is the first game to offer comprehensive driver training with professional evaluation and feedback as a catalyst into Barber's ultra-competitive developmental racing series. Employing sophisticated data acquisition and analysis, Barber's world-class coaching staff works to ensure that you become an expert in the art and science of open-wheel racing. Skip Barber features stunning 3D-accelerated graphics, realistic physics, and an unparalleled training program to form the ultimate motorsport simulation. Begin your training in Barber's Formula Dodge racecars and master such techniques as trail-braking, heel-and-toe downshifting, and finding the fastest racing line. Then, you're ready to compete in the Formula Race Series. As you progress from novice to veteran, you'll graduate to the pinnacle of Skip Barber's world-famous racing school, the Barber Dodge Pro Series. Customize your revolutionary Reynard Dodge to suit a specific track or driving style, and then use your training and skills to compete against others and achieve victory at the highest level! Uniting competitive open-wheel racing with a proven training program, Skip Barber Racing fills the gap in high-end motorsport simulations. Skip Barber Racing is the first game to offer comprehensive driver training with professional evaluation and feedback as a catalyst into Barber's ultra-competitive developmental racing series. Employing sophisticated data acquisition and analysis, Barber's world-class coaching staff works to ensure that you become an expert in the art and science of open-wheel racing. Skip Barber features stunning 3D-accelerated graphics, realistic physics, and an unparalleled training program to form the ultimate motorsport simulation. Begin your training in Barber's Formula Dodge racecars and master such techniques as trail-braking, heel-and-toe downshifting, and finding the fastest racing line. Then, you're ready to compete in the Formula Race Series. As you progress from novice to veteran, you'll graduate to the pinnacle of Skip Barber's world-famous racing school, the Barber Dodge Pro Series. Customize your revolutionary Reynard Dodge to suit a specific track or driving style, and then use your training and skills to compete against others and achieve victory at the highest level! Attend a simulation of Barber's 3-day Racing School & Cra Control Clinic. in-game instructors provide intelligent feedback & performance analysis. Compete in Barber's amateur "Formula Dodge" series. Compete in Barber's professional "Pro Dodge" series. Modify your car's setup with the optional help of an "intelligent" mechanic. Practive, race an event, or an entire season against computer or human opponents. Extensive on-line support using dedicated server technologies. Highly realistic physics model offers six degrees of freedom and employs accurate engineering specifications. 10 real tracks from across the U.S. Direct3D copliant graphics engine works with all hardware accelerators. Environmental sound & force feedback support. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- LINKS Game Rankings SCREENSHOTS

I checked out the site - graphics look rather poor, but the sim concept sounds great. Sky http://www.operationsports.com/reviewvault/reviews.asp?game=skipbarbe...

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I would think the clutch would be optional, as it is for some racers. Fine if you have the hardware and want to use it, but it should work just fine without a clutch. The sim value would be essentially the same as breathing the gas on GPL's up-shift. In fact, I think Papy only got this half right: downshifts are easier in GPL than are upshifts. Anyway, blipping the gas in neutral would be difficult to simulate with today's hardware. Maybe the first tap down would put the box in neutral, allowing you to blip and match. The next tap down should shift into the lower gear. The trouble is, I like to skip gears while downshifting, especially given that I'm blipping for each one. A good implementation would select a gear close to a good match for my revs and road speed. IMHO. This would be a nice addition for GPL. I wonder how long it would take the hot-lappers to get smooth again. :-) Michael.