OT: new mobo and CPU for simming - best bang for the buck?

Hi everybody, Finally I'm going for a new rig and would appreciate some advise. I'm looking for a mainstream solution, no budget or high end. Might be a P4 2.4 (up to 800) or a AMD 2600 for instance. Also, VIA chipsets are out of of the question after 2 NBT (nothing but trouble) years with my KT266 A. I already got an ATI 9600 pro. Few things I'm not certain about: How are the P4s compared to the AMDs? 3D Mark says lousy, but that's sponsored by AMD If intel chipset, 845 or 865? Is hyperthreading something not to miss out? What is the boost from P4 400 over 533 to 800? The new AMD 64 (Are that those Bartons?) is something to wait for (until afforadable)? A lot of questions, any help (also partially) is highly appreciated. TIA Jens BTW: I was on a XP 1600+ until now --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95

Hi everybody, Finally I'm going for a new rig and would appreciate some advise. I'm looking for a mainstream solution, no budget or high end. Might be a P4 2.4 (up to 800) or a AMD 2600 for instance. Also, VIA chipsets are out of of the question after 2 NBT (nothing but trouble) years with my KT266 A. I already got an ATI 9600 pro. Few things I'm not certain about: How are the P4s compared to the AMDs? 3D Mark says lousy, but that's sponsored by AMD If intel chipset, 845 or 865? Is hyperthreading something not to miss out? What is the boost from P4 400 over 533 to 800? The new AMD 64 (Are that those Bartons?) is something to wait for (until afforadable)? A lot of questions, any help (also partially) is highly appreciated. TIA Jens BTW: I was on a XP 1600+ until now --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95

Didn't we just cover this somewhere? IMHO, the best board out there feature wise is the ABIT IC7-MAX3, and when the P4 Extreme's come down to earth price wise I'll be getting one. -Larry "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hi everybody, > Finally I'm going for a new rig and would appreciate some advise. > > I'm looking for a mainstream solution, no budget or high end. > Might be a P4 2.4 (up to 800) or a AMD 2600 for instance. > > Also, VIA chipsets are out of of the question after 2 NBT (nothing but

trouble) > years with my KT266 A. > > I already got an ATI 9600 pro. > > Few things I'm not certain about: > How are the P4s compared to the AMDs? 3D Mark says lousy, but that'ssponsored

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> by AMD > > If intel chipset, 845 or 865? > > Is hyperthreading something not to miss out? > > What is the boost from P4 400 over 533 to 800? > > The new AMD 64 (Are that those Bartons?) is something to wait for (until > afforadable)? > > A lot of questions, any help (also partially) is highly appreciated. > > TIA > > Jens > > BTW: I was on a XP 1600+ until now > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

Sorry Jens --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95

Please ignore, double posting due to provider problems. Sorry Jens --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95

My recommendation would be to get a Athlon 2500+ and an Abit nForce2 mobo and overclock it to 3000+. There's a lot of people that overclock them to 3200+ but 3000+ is very comfortable for these chips. Slap in a Radeon 9600 and you'll have a PC which is near the cutting edge for sim racing for very little money.

Yup, my provider went crazy (Or I should get used to 2 days lags until the post shows up ;-) Cya Jens On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:59:13 -0400, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Didn't we just cover this somewhere?<snip> --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95

Hi Jens, you seem to have a fairly solid opinion already on what's good or not. Hence, I'd suggest you buy exactly what _you_ think is right, because if you don't, you'll always be worried whether you did the right thing :-) That said, the AMD 2600 or 3000 (with FSB 400) offer certainly much better bang for the buck than the P4s or the AMD 64s. The AMD 64s beat all P4s overall, but whether waiting is worth the while depends on how long you're willing to wait, I guess :-) Achim "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hi everybody, > Finally I'm going for a new rig and would appreciate some advise. > > I'm looking for a mainstream solution, no budget or high end. > Might be a P4 2.4 (up to 800) or a AMD 2600 for instance. > > Also, VIA chipsets are out of of the question after 2 NBT (nothing but

trouble) > years with my KT266 A. > > I already got an ATI 9600 pro. > > Few things I'm not certain about: > How are the P4s compared to the AMDs? 3D Mark says lousy, but that'ssponsored

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> by AMD > > If intel chipset, 845 or 865? > > Is hyperthreading something not to miss out? > > What is the boost from P4 400 over 533 to 800? > > The new AMD 64 (Are that those Bartons?) is something to wait for (until > afforadable)? > > A lot of questions, any help (also partially) is highly appreciated. > > TIA > > Jens > > BTW: I was on a XP 1600+ until now > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

> My recommendation would be to get a Athlon 2500+ and an Abit nForce2 mobo > and overclock it to 3000+.... The voice of reason speaks! I would specify an oem cpu and put a slk947 + 92mm fan on it. That combo will comfortably run at 3500+ ratings at reasonable sound levels. rms

check here: http://arstechnica.com/guide/system/index.html A good budget system for around $700.00. And a good read anyway. hth, jeff On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:58:27 GMT, [email hidden] (JS) wrote:

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>Hi everybody, >Finally I'm going for a new rig and would appreciate some advise. > >I'm looking for a mainstream solution, no budget or high end. >Might be a P4 2.4 (up to 800) or a AMD 2600 for instance. > >Also, VIA chipsets are out of of the question after 2 NBT (nothing but trouble) >years with my KT266 A. > >I already got an ATI 9600 pro. > >Few things I'm not certain about: >How are the P4s compared to the AMDs? 3D Mark says lousy, but that's sponsored >by AMD > >If intel chipset, 845 or 865? > >Is hyperthreading something not to miss out? > >What is the boost from P4 400 over 533 to 800? > >The new AMD 64 (Are that those Bartons?) is something to wait for (until >afforadable)? > >A lot of questions, any help (also partially) is highly appreciated. > >TIA > >Jens > > BTW: I was on a XP 1600+ until now > >--------------------------------------------- >LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: >http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ > >GPLRank: -14.82 >Monsters of GPL: sub 95