I am looking for F3 race setups for GPL 1.2. There are plenty of people
working hard with F1 setups (Ricardo Nunnini being my favourite), but I
haven't found much for F3:s. What do you recommend?
Jari Jokinen
Sure.
Go here for the best F3 setup page. Ron's setups are particularly good as
they are very stable and hence easy to drive.
http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl/
>I am looking for F3 race setups for GPL 1.2. There are plenty of people
>working hard with F1 setups (Ricardo Nunnini being my favourite), but I
>haven't found much for F3:s. What do you recommend?
Go here:
http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl/
get Ron Ayton's setups. They are great!
Chris Noto
cnoto at conc dot tds dot net
Thank you. I haven't yet really tried them, but I noticed, that he uses
asymmetrical camber settings at every track except Nurburgring. I think I
have seen such settings used only at Monza and Watkins Glen before.
>Sure.
>Go here for the best F3 setup page. Ron's setups are particularly good as
>they are very stable and hence easy to drive.
>http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl/
Take it from someone who has used them a lot Jari.
Ron's setups are very stable and capable of quick times. I haven't got
any yet but I know people that have.
Mike Horton
http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl
GPL F2/F3 Hotlaps and Other Downloadables
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:18:10 +0200, "Jari Jokinen"
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>Thank you. I haven't yet really tried them, but I noticed, that he uses >asymmetrical camber settings at every track except Nurburgring. I think I >have seen such settings used only at Monza and Watkins Glen before. >>Sure. >>Go here for the best F3 setup page. Ron's setups are particularly good as >>they are very stable and hence easy to drive. >>http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl/Hi Jari,
The reason i use asymetrical setups on most tracks in GPL F3, is
because i want a specific F3 setup to act in a certain way for
different areas of the different tracks..
There are many reason for wanting this, such as wanting the ability to
get the power down better for a passing attempt in a certain section of
track, or maybe i just want better grip in a certain corner that will
allow me to reach a greater terminal speed on the following straight
etc..
Drafting and terminal straight speeds are very important in F3 racing,
so we need to make use of asymetrical setups to gain that extra 1 or 2
tenths of a second we need to be competitive..
I'll give you an example for Kyalami.
The left hand turns at Kyalami in a F3 car, are not important to
overall lap times, when we are comparing the different lateral levels
of traction in relation to camber/suspension off-sets, but the right
hand corners are very important for a F3 car, so the cambers must be
set up to favour the right hand corners at Kyalami, both in front end
and rear end grip.
At a track like the Ring, asymetrical setups in a F3 car are not
needed, nor required, due to the many variations in both the right and
left hand corners, however even at the Ring, if you are having problems
with a certain section of the track, then the asymetrical setting up of
cambers and suspension to help give better lateral grip in the problem
area, can still be beneficial to you, but be prepared to suffer slight
loss of adhesion and controllability in other parts of the track then..
As a further insight, i usually setup most track specific setups to
exhibit added lateral traction in the right hand corners, except for
Rouen, where i try to keep a reasonable level of rear end lateral
traction in the left hand corners, as the left hand corners at Rouen in
a F3 car are where you can make up a lot of time..
The important right hand corners at Rouen can be taken flat-out in a F3
car, within sensible camber/suspension limitations of course. :)
At a track like Monza, my F3 setups generate as little as possible
camber/suspension induced lateral traction in the left hand corners,
but will grip like a vice in the right handers.
Keep in mind that the asymetrical setting up of a car has it's lows as
well as its highs, but IMO, the advantages of asymetrical setting up
far outweighs the disadvantages in a F3 chassis, where every 100th of a
second per lap is needed and required if you want to be competitive in
the F3 class of racing..
Hope that helps explains a bit why i use asymetrical setups more so
than symetrical Jari..
Cheers,
Ron
> Thank you. I haven't yet really tried them, but I noticed, that he uses
> asymmetrical camber settings at every track except Nurburgring. I think I
> have seen such settings used only at Monza and Watkins Glen before.
Ron,
I use asymetrical setups on all cars F3, F2, and F1 cars. The F1 cars due
to more grip needed to flat hook the car up coming off a corner. The only
track I do not use asymetrical setups is the ring. I have even set the
shocks up to help the car tranfer wieght asymetrically better. This really
helped me at Monza get down from low 1:28s to high 1:27s. It will help in
any car where you have more turns that are important in one direction the
the other.
Dave
Thanks for clarification! I am no setup guy myself and I am not even sure,
if I can tell a good setup from a bad one, but your explanation makes sense
to me.
Jari Jokinen
>Hi Jari,
>The reason i use asymetrical setups on most tracks in GPL F3...
Ron's setups for F2 and F3 seem to be very good!
Yesterday I tried some of these, and they feel so natural and balanced.
Thanks Ron!
Arto
