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N3 Rookie Questions

12 posts by 8 people · 05 Jan 2000 - 14 Jan 2000

M Chapma 05 Jan 2000#512534
Hi all I have played GPL for ages now and think its great, but I fancied trying this Nascar sim. Being English I do not understand this pace car thing fully. And I would appreciate if anyone could either give me a rundown of Nascar rules or direct me to a site which could. The things I am confused about are 1. when the pace car comes out does it come out in front of leader or anywhere? 2 Why does pit lane shut? 3. after lining up behind pace car there were people then overtaking me and my spotter telling me to let them through. 4 anything else I have probably missed the point on. I know these are very basic to someone who knows, but I am really enjoying the tactical side of this racing and would like to know more. Thanks Martin
Kinny Vinso 05 Jan 2000#512535
I'll give it a shot.... The pace car comes out and the leader will be the first car that the pace car "picks" up, i.e. the pace car will pull out in front of the leader after you have taken the caution Well, not sure if this is the real reason, but here is my guess. If you were at a large track, like Michigan for instance, and you knew that the caution was coming out and the pace car had just picked up the leader, you could conceivably hop onto pit road, make your pit stop, and then get back out on the track before the pace car gets back around to the entrance to the pits allowing the leaders to pit. This would give a large advantage to someone at the back of the pack, allowing them to then pass all the leaders while they pit since he had already pitted as the pace car picked up the leaders. Probably not the right answer, but like I said, that is my guess. Well, I have found this to be one of the few complaints that I have with the game, in the fact that with 43 cars to keep track of, sometimes the game gets a little confused during pit stops and you may get hosed due to a bug. The rule of thumb in real life is the first car to cross the white line at the exit of pit lane gets the position. Also, if the train of cars that did not pit is still making its way past the pits in real life, the cars exiting the pits are held by a Nascar Official untill all the cars that remained on the track have passed. The spotter may be instructing you to let the people still on the track by you to simulate this. Perhaps not, but again, my best guess. Hope I helped and didn't confuse you more. Kinny
M Chapma 06 Jan 2000#512746
Cheers things are slowly becoming clearer I do fine in the straight racing but really***up when it comes to pit stop times and tactics. Also I destroy the r/f tyre, Have to get used to laying off the entry speed a little I suspect. Thanks again Martin
bobb 07 Jan 2000#512960
Martin, kinny covered it. pit lane speeds and the pits being closed originated in the 80's when there were accidents that caused injury (maybe even deaths, i forget) prior to that, it was a "free for all" (cool to watch on old tapes).
Hi, I seem to remember the accident happening at Atlanta in the early 1990s. If I remeber correctly it was a Bill Elliott crew member or something. I remember there was then a pit road speed limit the next season. I could be wrong though, I was just starting to get into NASCAR at the time. Later, John
Quoted text (9 lines)> > Martin, kinny covered it. > > pit lane speeds and the pits being closed originated in the 80's when > there > > were accidents that caused injury (maybe even deaths, i forget) > Specifically, a death caused the sanctioning body to implement pit road > speed limits. I believe it was either 'Dega or Daytona and it was before > the plates...
bobb 08 Jan 2000#513109
i think you're right about elliott's pit member, i think it was late 80's though.
Quoted text (21 lines)> Hi, > I seem to remember the accident happening at Atlanta in the early > 1990s. If I remeber correctly it was a Bill Elliott crew member or > something. I remember there was then a pit road speed limit the next > season. I could be wrong though, I was just starting to get into NASCAR > at the time. > Later, > John > > > Martin, kinny covered it. > > > pit lane speeds and the pits being closed originated in the 80's when > > there > > > were accidents that caused injury (maybe even deaths, i forget) > > Specifically, a death caused the sanctioning body to implement pit road > > speed limits. I believe it was either 'Dega or Daytona and it was
before > > the plates...
Phil Bowe 10 Jan 2000#513466
For what it's worth, the only place in Nascar that there is still no pit road speed limit is in in qualifying for the Winston. Now that's a blast to watch live. They come in there to beat hell, stand on the brakes, and leave in just as big a hurry. Only one team at a time though.
Quoted text (29 lines)>i think you're right about elliott's pit member, i think it was late 80's >though. >> Hi, >> I seem to remember the accident happening at Atlanta in the early >> 1990s. If I remeber correctly it was a Bill Elliott crew member or >> something. I remember there was then a pit road speed limit the next >> season. I could be wrong though, I was just starting to get into NASCAR >> at the time. >> Later, >> John >> > > Martin, kinny covered it. >> > > pit lane speeds and the pits being closed originated in the 80's when >> > there >> > > were accidents that caused injury (maybe even deaths, i forget) >> > Specifically, a death caused the sanctioning body to implement pit road >> > speed limits. I believe it was either 'Dega or Daytona and it was >before >> > the plates...
>For what it's worth, the only place in Nascar that there is still no pit >road speed limit is in in qualifying for the Winston. Now that's a blast to >watch live. They come in there to beat hell, stand on the brakes, and leave >in just as big a hurry. >Only one team at a time though. ahhhh.... next year I'll get to watch it: getting Digital Cable (ESPN2 and Speedvision!!!!!) on Feb 26th. I'll finally get to tape qualifying! Never again will I miss a race! Gunner
Mopar5710 11 Jan 2000#513670
Quoted text (13 lines)> >For what it's worth, the only place in Nascar that there is still no pit > >road speed limit is in in qualifying for the Winston. Now that's a blast > to > >watch live. They come in there to beat hell, stand on the brakes, and > leave > >in just as big a hurry. > >Only one team at a time though. > ahhhh.... next year I'll get to watch it: getting Digital Cable (ESPN2 > and Speedvision!!!!!) on Feb 26th. I'll finally get to tape qualifying! > Never again will I miss a race!
Ummm....if you're talking about next year as in 2001, then ESPN2 and Speedvision will do you no good. http://www.nascar.com/news/1999news/November/11/00991461.html There is the link for the announcement regarding the "new" TV deal beginning in 2001. -- ****************************************** www.splitrocktel.net/users/mopar57106 Sioux Falls Stampede-USHL Hockey www.sfstampede.com
Quoted text (14 lines)>Subject: Re: N3 Rookie Questions >Date: 01/08/2000 1:43 PM Eastern Standard Time >Hi, > I seem to remember the accident happening at Atlanta in the early >1990s. If I remeber correctly it was a Bill Elliott crew member or >something. I remember there was then a pit road speed limit the next >season. I could be wrong though, I was just starting to get into NASCAR >at the time. >Later, >John
Elliot was driving for Melling (Coor's #9) at the time. After the crew member was killed team owner Harry Melling anounced that he was getting out of NASCAR..... The rules changed and Melling stayed in. (Don't use NO***in E-mail) You think in the storm we've found the eye of the calm.....Bill Mallonnee, Vigilantes Of Love
bobb 14 Jan 2000#514193
hey doug, has he won a race since then??? (elliott? (or melling for that matter?)) (i'll ask r.a.s.n folks also).
Quoted text (16 lines)> >Subject: Re: N3 Rookie Questions > >Date: 01/08/2000 1:43 PM Eastern Standard Time > >Hi, > > I seem to remember the accident happening at Atlanta in the early > >1990s. If I remeber correctly it was a Bill Elliott crew member or > >something. I remember there was then a pit road speed limit the next > >season. I could be wrong though, I was just starting to get into NASCAR > >at the time. > >Later, > >John > Elliot was driving for Melling (Coor's #9) at the time. After the crew
member
Quoted text (7 lines)> was killed team owner Harry Melling anounced that he was getting out of > NASCAR..... The rules changed and Melling stayed in. > (Don't use NO***in E-mail) > You think in the storm we've found the eye of the calm.....Bill Mallonnee, > Vigilantes Of Love

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