I can't believe it, but I just drove my first 1:27 lap on Monza,
1:27:96. I was stuck on 1:28:45 since september, in december I broke
my own pb a couple of times, but not by much, at the end of december
my pb was 1:28:36.
And now, thanks to my Curve Grande Kamikaze technique, I shaved of
4/10s of my own pb!
Here's the trick, works like a charm for me:
Brake very late for CG, and while you are braking, hold the wheel to
the right a little bit. Release the brake, immediately shift back to
4th gear, and you'll slide to the apex.
Untill tonight I allways started steering after the braking, but the
above technique works much better.
Finally getting through the 1:28 barrier feels so good, I could
sing...
Theeeeeee sun wil come out
Tomorrow
Bet a silver dollar that
Tomoooohorooowwww
There wil be suuuuuuuuunnnnnn
La la la la laaaa
Andre
Celebrating a first 1:27 lap at Monza in GPL
Andre Warringa celebrated his first 1:27 lap at Monza in the GPL Lotus, crediting an aggressive Curva Grande technique. Others congratulated him, shared their own times, recommended lap-analysis tools such as GPL Track Computer and GPL SpyGirl, and joked about finding practice time around wives and children.
Automated summary.
I heard there was a Y2K bug in GPL that allowed *anyone* to break 1:28 at
Monza after Jan. 1/2000 ;-)
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Just jealously y'know. The number of times I've
broken 1:30 could be counted on one hand with lots of fingers to spare
(thumbs too!)
Randy
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>I can't believe it, but I just drove my first 1:27 lap on Monza, >1:27:96. I was stuck on 1:28:45 since september, in december I broke >my own pb a couple of times, but not by much, at the end of december >my pb was 1:28:36. >And now, thanks to my Curve Grande Kamikaze technique, I shaved of >4/10s of my own pb! >Here's the trick, works like a charm for me: >Brake very late for CG, and while you are braking, hold the wheel to >the right a little bit. Release the brake, immediately shift back to >4th gear, and you'll slide to the apex. >Untill tonight I allways started steering after the braking, but the >above technique works much better. >Finally getting through the 1:28 barrier feels so good, I could >sing... >Theeeeeee sun wil come out >Tomorrow >Bet a silver dollar that >Tomoooohorooowwww >There wil be suuuuuuuuunnnnnn >La la la la laaaa >AndreCongratulations Andre. Great job and thank you for the tip. I'm off to
try it now :-)
Bob Geddes
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> I can't believe it, but I just drove my first 1:27 lap on Monza, > 1:27:96. I was stuck on 1:28:45 since september, in december I broke > my own pb a couple of times, but not by much, at the end of december > my pb was 1:28:36. > And now, thanks to my Curve Grande Kamikaze technique, I shaved of > 4/10s of my own pb! > Here's the trick, works like a charm for me: > Brake very late for CG, and while you are braking, hold the wheel to > the right a little bit. Release the brake, immediately shift back to > 4th gear, and you'll slide to the apex. > Untill tonight I allways started steering after the braking, but the > above technique works much better. > Finally getting through the 1:28 barrier feels so good, I could > sing... > Theeeeeee sun wil come out > Tomorrow > Bet a silver dollar that > Tomoooohorooowwww > There wil be suuuuuuuuunnnnnn > La la la la laaaa > AndreCongratulations, puts my own personal e***ment at beating 1.32 a bit in
the shade though:(
would you guys please mention which car you used? a 1:29 in an eagle is
no big deal, but in the brabham ... I haven't done one yet - only low
1:30s *sigh*
Lio
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> I can't believe it, but I just drove my first 1:27 lap on Monza, > 1:27:96. I was stuck on 1:28:45 since september, in december I broke > my own pb a couple of times, but not by much, at the end of december > my pb was 1:28:36. > And now, thanks to my Curve Grande Kamikaze technique, I shaved of > 4/10s of my own pb! > Here's the trick, works like a charm for me: > Brake very late for CG, and while you are braking, hold the wheel to > the right a little bit. Release the brake, immediately shift back to > 4th gear, and you'll slide to the apex. > Untill tonight I allways started steering after the braking, but the > above technique works much better. > Finally getting through the 1:28 barrier feels so good, I could > sing...With I could say i did it with the Brabham, but it was with the
Lotus...
Andre
On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 11:22:41 +0100, Liutger Franzen
>would you guys please mention which car you used? a 1:29 in an eagle is
>no big deal, but in the brabham ... I haven't done one yet - only low
>1:30s *sigh*
>Lio
That should have been 'Wish I could say...'
Andre
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>With I could say i did it with the Brabham, but it was with the >Lotus... >Andre >On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 11:22:41 +0100, Liutger Franzen >>would you guys please mention which car you used? a 1:29 in an eagle is >>no big deal, but in the brabham ... I haven't done one yet - only low >>1:30s *sigh* >>LioYou had me going for a couple of lines there mate.
Good one.
Mauricio
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>I heard there was a Y2K bug in GPL that allowed *anyone* to break 1:28 at >Monza after Jan. 1/2000 ;-) >Sorry, I couldn't resist. Just jealously y'know. The number of times I've >broken 1:30 could be counted on one hand with lots of fingers to spare >(thumbs too!) >Randy >>I can't believe it, but I just drove my first 1:27 lap on Monza, >>1:27:96. I was stuck on 1:28:45 since september, in december I broke >>my own pb a couple of times, but not by much, at the end of december >>my pb was 1:28:36. >>And now, thanks to my Curve Grande Kamikaze technique, I shaved of >>4/10s of my own pb! >>Here's the trick, works like a charm for me: >>Brake very late for CG, and while you are braking, hold the wheel to >>the right a little bit. Release the brake, immediately shift back to >>4th gear, and you'll slide to the apex. >>Untill tonight I allways started steering after the braking, but the >>above technique works much better. >>Finally getting through the 1:28 barrier feels so good, I could >>sing... >>Theeeeeee sun wil come out >>Tomorrow >>Bet a silver dollar that >>Tomoooohorooowwww >>There wil be suuuuuuuuunnnnnn >>La la la la laaaa >>AndreCongrats too with your 1.27:90 lap :)
Andre
***! I've been using this technique for ages but have only managed a
1:28.28. Must be losing it elsewhere methinks. Grrrr!
Yeah, if you don't point the nose in whilst braking you just drift too
wide and have to start backing off.
Uugh! Sounds awful! Stick to racing. :-)
--
Peter Ives
there are only 2 spots left then: 2nd lesmo (very important) and the
parabolica ... check with GPL Track Computer
([link lost in import] GPL-Dump and GPL SpyGirl (both in the
GPL section at [link lost in import] ...
Lio
Yeah, got both programs but haven't bothered to use 'em while my times
continue to improve. However, I'm just starting to reach a point where
excess effort result in mediocre return timewise, so I may well have to
try these proggies out along with downloading some alternative setups.
:-)
--
Peter Ives
Congrats,know how you feel,I just broke my one and only 1:27.96 with a
1:27.84(lotus).and thats with a new girlfriend in the works( she thinks the
games cute,little does she know!).Don't know how I'm going to find the time to
get to that 1:26. Someday
Happy racing all
Buster
Just gave up driving the Brabham and went back to the Lotus after 3
months of trying to be competitive.
Monza 1:28.9
Watkins Glen 1:06.45
Kyalami 1:21.6
I turned all these times after less then 6 laps at each track today.
Not the fastest,but I'm competitive again.
Joel Willstein
Congrats on the 1:27! I wish I could get one. I'm running 1:28.5 laps
constantly and it's getting boring. LOL. I attack the Curva Grande like you,
but I think I am losing my time out of Lesmo #2.
Dan Belcher
Team Racing Unlimited
http://simcrash.00game.com
Too bad, Repco company just promised more horsepower very soon, we will miss
you in the Team Brabham ;)
I know what you mean. It took my girlfriend 7 months to finally accept
GPL into our lives (as long as I don't tell her how I finish third in
Spa and o forth...)
I even tried to get her to play it, but she thought the car just
doesn't seem to turn, and she gave up before she began.
But she definitely thinks it's abnormal when I storm out of the room
after having an argument with J.Clark after finishing behind him,
again.
A mate just moved in with his girlfriend and GPL is already coming
between them and their weekends as he works long hours during the
week.
I wonder how married guys with kids manage to have any time to play at
all. And considering some of us also play Quake3, Unreal, RC2000,
MGPRS2, Toca2...!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!...
Somedays I wonder if one day I'll be one of these guys that doesn't
even know which computer games people play... Fat chance, considering
I work with the dammed things for a living, as a lot of you do.
It's sad I know... But is it?
I don't think so because I ***y love it!
Mauricio.
Marko,
It was very hard for me to give up the Toad as my primary car. I still
love driving it more than any other car. But in F2 it's my ride,and I'm
looking into a Brabham F1 league.
Joel Willstein
Let me tell you it is damn hard trying to find time to play when you are
married with kids, it's one of the reasons I am still stuck on 1:31.87...
ok, ok stop laughing and get up off the floor.. it was hard work for me to
even get down to that time :O( The last couple of days I have at least
managed to get a reasonble amount of track time and put in around 100 laps
at Monza but I am desperate to break into the 1:30's.....
The other thing that gets in the way is this work thing I keep having to do,
sure is a nuisance I can tell you. Trouble is my boss doesn't seem to
understand when I tell him I have to leave early to try to refine my Curva
Grande or Parabolica technique.
Peter Hooper
> >I just broke my one and only 1:27.96 with a
> >1:27.84(lotus).and thats with a new girlfriend in the works( she thinks the
> >games cute,little does she know!).Don't know how I'm going to find the time to
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> >get to that 1:26. Someday > >Happy racing all > >Buster > I know what you mean. It took my girlfriend 7 months to finally accept > GPL into our lives (as long as I don't tell her how I finish third in > Spa and o forth...) > I even tried to get her to play it, but she thought the car just > doesn't seem to turn, and she gave up before she began. > But she definitely thinks it's abnormal when I storm out of the room > after having an argument with J.Clark after finishing behind him, > again. > A mate just moved in with his girlfriend and GPL is already coming > between them and their weekends as he works long hours during the > week. > I wonder how married guys with kids manage to have any time to play at > all. And considering some of us also play Quake3, Unreal, RC2000, > MGPRS2, Toca2...!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!... > Somedays I wonder if one day I'll be one of these guys that doesn't > even know which computer games people play... Fat chance, considering > I work with the dammed things for a living, as a lot of you do. > It's sad I know... But is it? > I don't think so because I ***y love it! > Mauricio.Married w/ kidS and you were able to do 100 laps at Monza.
I'm married w/ 1 kid(future sim racer) and the only way I can race
undisturbed is by getting up at 5 AM on Sat. & Sun. to get in about
2 hrs each day(I love those 4 hrs.) I can find time during the week but its
late and I'm tired and it shows in my lap times.
Have a good weekend all.
do,
>sure is a nuisance I can tell you. Trouble is my boss doesn't seem to
>understand when I tell him I have to leave early to try to refine my Curva
>Grande or Parabolica technique.
>Peter Hooper
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>Let me tell you it is damn hard trying to find time to play when you are >married with kids, it's one of the reasons I am still stuck on 1:31.87... >ok, ok stop laughing and get up off the floor.. it was hard work for me to >even get down to that time :O( The last couple of days I have at least >managed to get a reasonble amount of track time and put in around 100 laps >at Monza but I am desperate to break into the 1:30's..... >The other thing that gets in the way is this work thing I keep having toI discovered the secret to life early: no kids, and get your wife a job !
I'm down to 1.28:78
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Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.
The best way is to establish the rules early in life;
1) Don't disturb Dad when he's playing with his toys!
> Married w/ kidS and you were able to do 100 laps at Monza.
> I'm married w/ 1 kid(future sim racer) and the only way I can race
> undisturbed is by getting up at 5 AM on Sat. & Sun. to get in about
> 2 hrs each day(I love those 4 hrs.) I can find time during the week but its
to
> >even get down to that time :O( The last couple of days I have at least
> >managed to get a reasonble amount of track time and put in around 100 laps
> >at Monza but I am desperate to break into the 1:30's.....
> >The other thing that gets in the way is this work thing I keep having to
> do,
> >sure is a nuisance I can tell you. Trouble is my boss doesn't seem to
> >understand when I tell him I have to leave early to try to refine my Curva
> >Grande or Parabolica technique.
> >Peter Hooper
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> late and I'm tired and it shows in my lap times. > Have a good weekend all. > >Let me tell you it is damn hard trying to find time to play when you are > >married with kids, it's one of the reasons I am still stuck on 1:31.87... > >ok, ok stop laughing and get up off the floor.. it was hard work for mewrites:
1:29 in an eagle is NO BIG DEAL?!?
Geez, some guys just *have* to rub it in how good they are...<g>
Eldred - who has yet to break 1:30 with ANY car...
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>Finally getting through the 1:28 barrier feels so good, I could
>sing...
Sing? Uh, don't quit your day job...<g>
But since you stuck up for me trying to get in the 1:30's - congrats!
Eldred
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> I discovered the secret to life early: no kids, and get your wife a job !
> I'm down to 1.28:78
> --
> Don Scurlock
> Vancouver,B.C.
Don,
I have a wife, a 12 year son, and a career that requires about 60 hours
per week. Yet I manage to run 1:28-29s at Monza qualifying for every race
there. And I'm just a mid packer.
Joel Willstein


































