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37 posts by 21 people · 02 Jan 2000 - 07 Jan 2000

GPL dropped from Sierra site listing; calls for CART sim

A poster noticed a URL redirecting to Sierra's site and others claimed GPL had disappeared from its sports listing, though it was later found under motor sports. The thread became a debate about whether Papyrus should make a modern F1 or CART sim, with Joel Willstein saying Papyrus people had stated Sierra had no interest in another open-wheel sim. Side jokes covered grammar and ice-racing sims.

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G_Major 02 Jan 2000#511862
I was just fidling around and I am extremely bored out of my mind, I type this in the address bar: http://www.nascar4.com and it takes me to sierra's main site. I think I'm on to something!!
On the following date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:53:24 -0500, said person(s) Great! I'm sick of GPL. I hate the game. I know, I know.. I'm mad.. but I just can't get into racing cars that were being raced 6 years before I was born. - James "Gunslinger" Wohlever Techware Motorsports http://techware.gtinsider.com Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to:
I couldn't agree with you more James! Bring on a good MODERN day F1 SIM!! -- Sean Higgins Proud Member of Beaver Creek Racing Redline Racing League www.rrlnrs.com CNSRL www.cnsrl.com > On the following date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:53:24 -0500, said person(s) > >hum...and GPL is not listed anymore in the Sports section...I think were on > >to loosing something ! > Great! > I'm sick of GPL. > I hate the game. > I know, I know.. I'm mad.. but I just can't get into racing cars that > were being raced 6 years before I was born. > - James "Gunslinger" Wohlever > Techware Motorsports > http://techware.gtinsider.com > Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to:
>hum...and GPL is not listed anymore in the Sports section...I think were on >to loosing something ! Well QUICK! someone get a wrench and tighten it, then. ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----
john moore 03 Jan 2000#512051
and indy was there for decades before you were born , do you refuse to run there just for that reason? my guess is you got frustrated by GPL and quit
Quoted text (19 lines)> On the following date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:53:24 -0500, said person(s) > >hum...and GPL is not listed anymore in the Sports section...I think were on > >to loosing something ! > Great! > I'm sick of GPL. > I hate the game. > I know, I know.. I'm mad.. but I just can't get into racing cars that > were being raced 6 years before I was born. > - James "Gunslinger" Wohlever > Techware Motorsports > http://techware.gtinsider.com > Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to:
F1?!!!! An updated CART "simulator" is long overdue......Don't you think so???
Arne Martin 03 Jan 2000#512053
> I was just fidling around and I am extremely bored out of my mind, I type > this in the address bar: > http://www.nascar4.com > and it takes me to sierra's main site. I think I'm on to something!! unfortunately http://www.cart3.com doesn't lead anywhere :-( -- Arne Martin
E. Crawford 03 Jan 2000#512054
Robert...GPL is listed under Sports/Motor Sports....... Edward > hum...and GPL is not listed anymore in the Sports section...I think were on
Quoted text (11 lines)> to loosing something ! > -- > Robert Gravel > http://www2.lacitec.on.ca/users/9803484/ > > I was just fidling around and I am extremely bored out of my mind, I
type > > this in the address bar: > > http://www.nascar4.com > > and it takes me to sierra's main site. I think I'm on to something!!
> F1?!!!! > An updated CART "simulator" is long overdue......Don't you think so??? Don't want to be the one to burst your bubble, but no one is even thinking about doing one, especially Papyrus/Sierra. Joel Willstein
m.seery 03 Jan 2000#512056
Interesting place in which to insert a comma. MS ==-----
>Interesting place in which to insert a comma. >MS >> Well QUICK! someone get a wrench and tighten it, then. A comma may optionally be used to separate 'contrasting' parts of a sentence. An action and a timeframe are not the same thing, therefore the comma. Next? ~daxe http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/fr_punc.html -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----
m.seery 03 Jan 2000#512058
ROTFLOL MS
Quoted text (16 lines)> He probably meant to continue with "then it won't become lose." > > Interesting place in which to insert a comma. > > MS > > > Well QUICK! someone get a wrench and tighten it, then. > > > ~daxe > > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News > > ==---------- > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the
World! > > > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers > > ==----- > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----
I wish I had thought of that. Good one. ~daxe
Quoted text (12 lines)>He probably meant to continue with "then it won't become lose." >> Interesting place in which to insert a comma. >> MS >> > Well QUICK! someone get a wrench and tighten it, then. >> > ~daxe
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>I love ALL kinds of racing so any real sim will grab my attention! Even >horse racing sims! Speaking of this, there is a newer HR "sim" out which a friend of mine quickly snapped up. It is very disappointing at best. If I can remember the name I'll post it as an FYI opinion. ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----
Beaner 03 Jan 2000#512061
Sure it is look harder > hum...and GPL is not listed anymore in the Sports section...I think were on
Quoted text (11 lines)> to loosing something ! > -- > Robert Gravel > http://www2.lacitec.on.ca/users/9803484/ > > I was just fidling around and I am extremely bored out of my mind, I
type > > this in the address bar: > > http://www.nascar4.com > > and it takes me to sierra's main site. I think I'm on to something!!
Quoted text (9 lines)> How do you know that, Joel? > > Don't want to be the one to burst your bubble, but no one is even > > thinking about doing one, especially Papyrus/Sierra. > > Joel Willstein
There have been a few people from Papyrus that when questioned on this topic, said point blank that there isn't any interest from Sierra to do another open wheel sim. Joel Willstein
Leaky_Valve 04 Jan 2000#512244
How do you know that, Joel? > Don't want to be the one to burst your bubble, but no one is even > thinking about doing one, especially Papyrus/Sierra. > Joel Willstein -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----
Leaky_Valve 04 Jan 2000#512245
He probably meant to continue with "then it won't become lose."
Quoted text (13 lines)> Interesting place in which to insert a comma. > MS > > Well QUICK! someone get a wrench and tighten it, then. > > ~daxe > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News > ==---------- > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers > ==-----
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Dan Belcher 04 Jan 2000#512246
What the hell?? Why do we want a boring F1 sim? GP3 is coming, that's great for me. But, I want CART. That's where the best racing is! :) Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrashes.cjb.net
Stiff one 04 Jan 2000#512247
I love ALL kinds of racing so any real sim will grab my attention! Even horse racing sims!
m.seery 04 Jan 2000#512248
More appropriate for the time of year (in the Northern hemisphere at least), would be an ice racing sim. Now that really would be fun if the physics were up to it. MS
EldredP 04 Jan 2000#512249
Quoted text (19 lines)>and indy was there for decades before you were born , do you refuse to run >there >just for that reason? my guess is you got frustrated by GPL and quit >> On the following date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:53:24 -0500, said person(s) >> >hum...and GPL is not listed anymore in the Sports section...I think were >on >> >to loosing something ! >> Great! >> I'm sick of GPL. >> I hate the game. >> I know, I know.. I'm mad.. but I just can't get into racing cars that >> were being raced 6 years before I was born.
I think he meant that particular style of CARS, not the CIRCUIT... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 04 Jan 2000#512250
writes: >>I love ALL kinds of racing so any real sim will grab my attention! Even >>horse racing sims! >Speaking of this, there is a newer HR "sim" out which a friend of mine >quickly snapped up. It is very disappointing at best. If I can remember >the name I'll post it as an FYI opinion. Well, it can't be much worse than Quarterpole...that SUCKED. -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Andrew Duk 04 Jan 2000#512252
Papyrus + Sierra = SELLOUT!!!!!! > > How do you know that, Joel? > > > Don't want to be the one to burst your bubble, but no one is even > > > thinking about doing one, especially Papyrus/Sierra. > > > Joel Willstein > There have been a few people from Papyrus that when questioned on this > topic, said point blank that there isn't any interest from Sierra to do > another open wheel sim. > Joel Willstein
: More appropriate for the time of year (in the Northern hemisphere at least), : would be an ice racing sim. Now that really would be fun if the physics were : up to it. Screamer 2 on any track... I think they *must* have been thinking ice when they coded that one. Stephen
Oh I do think a CART sim is LONG overdue.! I just like the road and street courses better than ovals. I get enough of those cirlces in N3. :) -- Sean Higgins Proud Member of Beaver Creek Racing Redline Racing League www.rrlnrs.com CNSRL www.cnsrl.com > F1?!!!! > An updated CART "simulator" is long overdue......Don't you think so??? > > I couldn't agree with you more James! Bring on a good MODERN day F1 > SIM!! > > -- > > Sean Higgins > > Proud Member of Beaver Creek Racing > > Redline Racing League www.rrlnrs.com > > CNSRL www.cnsrl.com
EldredP 05 Jan 2000#512482
Quoted text (10 lines)>: More appropriate for the time of year (in the Northern hemisphere at >least), >: would be an ice racing sim. Now that really would be fun if the physics >were >: up to it. >Screamer 2 on any track... I think they *must* have been thinking ice >when they coded that one. >Stephen
I thought I was the only one who 'skated' through that one... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Not a sellout, just big business doing its thing. Like it or not, thats how they look at it. It's a hobby for us, but it's how they earn their living. Joel Willstein
: Oh I do think a CART sim is LONG overdue.! I just like the road and street : courses better than ovals. I get enough of those cirlces in N3. :) I don't doubt that within a few months of N4 appearing, it will be hacked and patched to the point that we can drive touring cars around the 'Ring. There are some brilliant people out there in Internet land. They can provide things that Papyrus is unable to (due to marketing pressures). Funny thing for me is, I used to be a big ICR2 fan and scoffed at the NASCAR sims. Then I imported a few ICR2 road courses over to N1, then later bought N2 and used the Pits touring car patch. ICR2 has never seen my harddrive since. I lost interest in Champ racing (can't explain why) about the same time, so that may explain partly why I gave up on ICR2. Until SCGT came along, running road courses in the Papyrus NASCAR sims provided some of the best close racing in a sim - I preferred it even to TOCA as I could place the cars more accurately on the track. I have no doubts that N4, with a few tweaks, will provide just as much fun. But of course I can understand those who still wish for a CART sim - it's been 5 years after all. Stephen
Obiwan 07 Jan 2000#512932
Agree... People in here in Scandinavia and Canada would love it! -- Robert S?derberg If replying by mail,remove the word INGENSPAM from the adress.
Stiff one 07 Jan 2000#512933
I live in Toronto and have yet to see 1 snowflake this winter! (saying that while knocking on wood)
Quoted text (13 lines)> Agree... > People in here in Scandinavia and Canada > would love it! > -- > Robert S?derberg > If replying by mail,remove the word INGENSPAM from the adress. > > More appropriate for the time of year (in the Northern hemisphere at
least), > > would be an ice racing sim. Now that really would be fun if the physics were > > up to it.
: I live in Toronto and have yet to see 1 snowflake this winter! (saying that : while knocking on wood) Strange, isn't it? Growing up in Toronto, and even as recently as the late 80's when I went to University of Toronto, I can remember big blankets of snow *before* the New Year. Something is definitely shifting in the global climate. However, with all the frigging freezing rain they now get in Ontario, I imagine an ice driving sim would be *very* appropriate. Maybe add the option where you have to wiggle the joystick back and forth for an hour before driving to simulate scraping away teh inch of ice on the windows :) Stephen
So....GPL isn't actually ice racing sim?.....
Quoted text (13 lines)> Agree... > People in here in Scandinavia and Canada > would love it! > -- > Robert S?derberg > If replying by mail,remove the word INGENSPAM from the adress. > > More appropriate for the time of year (in the Northern hemisphere at
least), > > would be an ice racing sim. Now that really would be fun if the physics were > > up to it.
m.seery 07 Jan 2000#512936
Not with your traction patch Marko :-) MS
Quoted text (21 lines)> So....GPL isn't actually ice racing sim?..... > > Agree... > > People in here in Scandinavia and Canada > > would love it! > > -- > > Robert S?derberg > > If replying by mail,remove the word INGENSPAM from the adress. > > > More appropriate for the time of year (in the Northern hemisphere at > least), > > > would be an ice racing sim. Now that really would be fun if the
physics > were > > > up to it.
Peter Ives 07 Jan 2000#512937
Only at Brands Hatch. :-)
Quoted text (17 lines)>> Agree... >> People in here in Scandinavia and Canada >> would love it! >> -- >> Robert S?derberg >> If replying by mail,remove the word INGENSPAM from the adress. >> > More appropriate for the time of year (in the Northern hemisphere at >least), >> > would be an ice racing sim. Now that really would be fun if the physics >were >> > up to it.
-- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

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