What the hell? Am I the only one with a working PC on New Years morn? Or
are all of you just light-weights? Happy freaking New Mellinium peeps! I
hope you all crash hard in turn one just because you're all too damn
hungover to judge the corner! Yes, I'm stoned on Jack Daniels, so you
have no excuse; unless you're all f***ing right now. Buzz me, or flame
me, hell I don't care, I made it!!! Have fun!
Tony Long
P.S. Damn, I can still type.
Flame warNew Year post turns into millennium and grammar argument
A tipsy New Year's greeting led to a long off-topic argument over whether the millennium started in 2000 or 2001, how years and decades are counted, and the meaning of A.D. The thread then degenerated into spelling and grammar sniping, religion jabs and name-calling between Daxe Rexford, Leaky_Valve, Tom Pendergas and others, before the original poster apologised good-naturedly.
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I'm awake at 0541! I wasn't partying though. I was baby-sitting the power
plant I work at all night. We came through Y2K without a glitch. I was at
least hoping for a >little< glitch just to make it interesting. Oh well. I
sent the wife and kids to the parents for the weekend just in case I didn't
get home, so now I have the whole place to myself--time for some DTR!!
Bryan
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> What the hell? Am I the only one with a working PC on New Years morn? Or > are all of you just light-weights? Happy freaking New Mellinium peeps! I > hope you all crash hard in turn one just because you're all too damn > hungover to judge the corner! Yes, I'm stoned on Jack Daniels, so you > have no excuse; unless you're all f***ing right now. Buzz me, or flame > me, hell I don't care, I made it!!! Have fun! > Tony Long > P.S. Damn, I can still type.The new millenium isn't until 2001.
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Actually I'm one of the four hor*** and I slept in last night! You
bastards just wait til next year!!!!
Same for the new millennium as well :-)
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> The new millenium isn't until 2001. > -- > Rory S. Brown > Canadian Distributor for Hyper Stimulator > "The World's Best Racing Car Simulators" > Visit www.hyperstimcanada.com > Home Designed Computers by Rory > "Custom Computers for your needs!" > Visit www.directcomputers.com > Unit 7 - 9947 - 151 Street > Surrey, BC Canada V3R 9A1 > Phone 604-671-5997 > Fax 604-930-9983 > Official Supplier of Computers & Hyper Stimulators to: > the Players Racing Simulator Challenge Tour and > The Kool Racing Challenge Tour > Visit www.players-racing.com > > What the hell? Am I the only one with a working PC on New Years morn? Or > > are all of you just light-weights? Happy freaking New Mellinium peeps! I > > hope you all crash hard in turn one just because you're all too damn > > hungover to judge the corner! Yes, I'm stoned on Jack Daniels, so you > > have no excuse; unless you're all f***ing right now. Buzz me, or flame > > me, hell I don't care, I made it!!! Have fun! > > Tony Long > > P.S. Damn, I can still type.Not. It's been 1000 years since the year 1000, that's a Millenium. If
you want to get really technical about it, most scholars agree that
Jesus was born in 4-5 BC, so the "millenium" was four years ago.
Joe McGinn
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Good catch Joe. <g>
Greg
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> >The new millenium isn't until 2001. > Not. It's been 1000 years since the year 1000, that's a Millenium. If > you want to get really technical about it, most scholars agree that > Jesus was born in 4-5 BC, so the "millenium" was four years ago. > Joe McGinn > _________________________ > GA-Sports Writer > http://www.ga-sports.com/>Not. It's been 1000 years since the year 1000, that's a Millenium. If
>you want to get really technical about it, most scholars agree that
>Jesus was born in 4-5 BC, so the "millenium" was four years ago.
Same experts also generally think he wasn't born on 12/25 either. The day
we use for Xmas was actually conveniently co-opted by early Xtians, being at
that time already a pagan celebration of the winter solstice.
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P.S. Damn, I can still type.
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But you can't spell......... "Mellinium" (sic)
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Thank heavens! I thought that mine was the lone voice in the wilderness of
"Millennium" hype.
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> The new millenium isn't until 2001. > -- > Rory S. Brown > Canadian Distributor for Hyper Stimulator > "The World's Best Racing Car Simulators" > Visit www.hyperstimcanada.com > Home Designed Computers by Rory > "Custom Computers for your needs!" > Visit www.directcomputers.com > Unit 7 - 9947 - 151 Street > Surrey, BC Canada V3R 9A1 > Phone 604-671-5997 > Fax 604-930-9983 > Official Supplier of Computers & Hyper Stimulators to: > the Players Racing Simulator Challenge Tour and > The Kool Racing Challenge Tour > Visit www.players-racing.com > > What the hell? Am I the only one with a working PC on New Years morn? Or > > are all of you just light-weights? Happy freaking New Mellinium peeps! I > > hope you all crash hard in turn one just because you're all too damn > > hungover to judge the corner! Yes, I'm stoned on Jack Daniels, so you > > have no excuse; unless you're all f***ing right now. Buzz me, or flame > > me, hell I don't care, I made it!!! Have fun! > > Tony Long > > P.S. Damn, I can still type.Joe, it's based on the fact that we (the vast bulk of the so-called
"western world") use the Gregorian calendar. We count a decade as being
ten years, the first year is year 1 (not year 0) and the last year in the
decade is year 10 (not year 0).
Therefore a century is from Year 1 to Year 100 and a millennium is from
Year 1 to Year 1000.
To conclude, the 20th. century ends at midnight Year 2000 and the 21st.
century starts in 2001.
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> >The new millenium isn't until 2001. > Not. It's been 1000 years since the year 1000, that's a Millenium. If > you want to get really technical about it, most scholars agree that > Jesus was born in 4-5 BC, so the "millenium" was four years ago. > Joe McGinn > _________________________ > GA-Sports Writer > http://www.ga-sports.com/That's probably technically true, but for me 2000 is much better to
celebrate than 2001 :-)
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Cheers!
Graeme "gradually recovering" Nash :-)
Um, no.
There was no Year 0 A.D.
First Millennium: Year 1 to Year 1000 A.D.
Second Millennium: Year 1001 to Year 2000
Third Millennium: Year 2001 to Year 3000 (note to IT people: Start
planning for Y3K).
Finally, the Millennium isn't based on when Jesus was born, it's based on
the calendar year. The calendar is based on an estimate of when Jesus was
born, but the notion that the calendar inventors got the year and date wrong
is moot.
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Philip D'Amato
1999 Ninja 500R
> >The new millenium isn't until 2001.
> Not. It's been 1000 years since the year 1000, that's a Millenium. If
> you want to get really technical about it, most scholars agree that
> Jesus was born in 4-5 BC, so the "millenium" was four years ago.
> Joe McGinn
> _________________________
> GA-Sports Writer
> http://www.ga-sports.com/
Their is a new racing coming out sim called "millenium"? Or is it
"Mellooneyum"? I cant really remember. Not that I'm getting off topic now
but the important thing is that I had this onion on my belt and my friend
likes strawberry ice-cream. Is any of this making sense? I figured this was
a good post to attach a thread like this to.
Happy holidays guys and see you in the fence!
A.T. Stiff
Or
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> Thank heavens! I thought that mine was the lone voice in the wilderness of > "Millennium" hype. > > The new millenium isn't until 2001. > > -- > > Rory S. Brown > > Canadian Distributor for Hyper Stimulator > > "The World's Best Racing Car Simulators" > > Visit www.hyperstimcanada.com > > Home Designed Computers by Rory > > "Custom Computers for your needs!" > > Visit www.directcomputers.com > > Unit 7 - 9947 - 151 Street > > Surrey, BC Canada V3R 9A1 > > Phone 604-671-5997 > > Fax 604-930-9983 > > Official Supplier of Computers & Hyper Stimulators to: > > the Players Racing Simulator Challenge Tour and > > The Kool Racing Challenge Tour > > Visit www.players-racing.com > > > What the hell? Am I the only one with a working PC on New Years morn?Quoted text (11 lines)
> > > hope you all crash hard in turn one just because you're all too damn > > > hungover to judge the corner! Yes, I'm stoned on Jack Daniels, so you > > > have no excuse; unless you're all f***ing right now. Buzz me, or flame > > > me, hell I don't care, I made it!!! Have fun! > > > Tony Long > > > P.S. Damn, I can still type. > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet NewsWhy celebrate the fact that you are one year closer to the grave?
I can appreciate not forgetting one's birthdate, where we raise a glass
to the fact that we were born, but I cannot understand this almost
hysterical euphoria that occurs at the end/beginning of each year. Why?
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> >The new millenium isn't until 2001. > That's probably technically true, but for me 2000 is much better to > celebrate than 2001 :-) > -- > Cheers! > Graeme "gradually recovering" Nash :-)Quoted text (9 lines)
>Joe, it's based on the fact that we (the vast bulk of the so-called >"western world") use the Gregorian calendar. We count a decade as being >ten years, the first year is year 1 (not year 0) and the last year in the >decade is year 10 (not year 0). >Therefore a century is from Year 1 to Year 100 and a millennium is from >Year 1 to Year 1000. >To conclude, the 20th. century ends at midnight Year 2000 and the 21st. >century starts in 2001.> Um, no.
> There was no Year 0 A.D.
> First Millennium: Year 1 to Year 1000 A.D.
> Second Millennium: Year 1001 to Year 2000
> Third Millennium: Year 2001 to Year 3000 (note to IT people: Start
> planning for Y3K).
Actually, the IT people should be prepared for Y-10-K.
They've only added 2 digits to the date counter, which means
that all computers better be up to date by the year 9999 AD.
Ah, well. The fearmongers and their crackpot buddies are
_still_ telling us that Doomsday is Monday, when all the bus-
inesses get started back up again. Tell that to the rest of
us who actually checked ahead of time...
And it's a moot point with me. The Earth is still rotat-
ing on its axis, the sun is still rising and setting on-
schedule, and the tides are still turning. Someone better
go visit the crackpots in their caves and give them their
old Win95 PCs; mine is still working fine nearly 36 hours
after the predicted End Of The World.
Meanwhile, as I'm going to be seeing how my new Compaq
notebook will handle N3 and N1999, perhaps those poor
suckers will be paying the con artists who sold them on
the idea that every computer in the world was going to
blow up a little visit. I may even provide the gasoline
for their torches.
Have a better year this year than you've had last year,
Y'all...
-- Yujon3D.
You're really over-estimating this jerk...
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> > So the decade of the 90's is from 1991 to 2000? Don't think so.
> > The whole thing is semantics anyway. If you think about it logically, you can
> > see the point on BOTH sides...
Uhhh, no you can't. Sorry, I've been trying to stay out of these
wars, but stubborn idiots have pushed me to my limit. You don't
start counting ANYTHING with "0", you start counting things with
ONE. As in "year ONE", as in "year ONE to 100 was the first
century. Year ONE to 1000, was the first millennium, and year
Two Thousand and ONE will start the NEXT millennium."
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> > > So the decade of the 90's is from 1991 to 2000? Don't think so.
> > > The whole thing is semantics anyway. If you think about it logically, you can
> > > see the point on BOTH sides...
So, you say that we count as follows:
2 Before Christ
1 Before Christ
1 After Christ
2 After Chrst etc.
Then we forget the year in which christ was born, which must be the year
0!
Han Monsees
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Hmmm...and you are using a computer, huh? Where does the binary system your
entire computer is based on start counting?
~daxe
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> >>You don't
> >> start counting ANYTHING with "0", you start counting things with
> >> ONE.
> Hmmm...and you are using a computer, huh? Where does the binary system your
> entire computer is based on start counting?
That's not "counting", that's the digits available for your use.
Open up a dozen of eggs and count them. The digit "0" is available
for use (you'll use it later, when you get to "ten"), but you don't
call the first egg "zero", you count it as "one", and unless you're
a total dolt, you'll end up at 12.
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Are you always that happy? :-)))
Well, beyond the obvious of the change of year providing a time for
looking ahead and hoping for better things etc, some of us enjoy having
a good time!
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Cheers!
Graeme Nash
>Open up a dozen of eggs and count them. The digit "0" is available
>for use (you'll use it later, when you get to "ten"), but you don't
>call the first egg "zero", you count it as "one", and unless you're
>a total dolt, you'll end up at 12.
I must not be a total dolt because when I buy a DOZEN eggs I already know
there's 12 without having to count them.
:o)
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> >Open up a dozen of eggs and count them. The digit "0" is available > >for use (you'll use it later, when you get to "ten"), but you don't > >call the first egg "zero", you count it as "one", and unless you're > >a total dolt, you'll end up at 12. > I must not be a total dolt because when I buy a DOZEN eggs I already know > there's 12 without having to count them. > :o) > ~daxe > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet NewsThis year is not complete. Therefore we have not completed 1000 years yet.
bags
writes:
Are you calling *me* a stubborn idiot?
So how do YOU count the decade of the 90's? With decades, people count from
"0". I.E. 1990 - 1999. For the millenium, people count from "1", because
there was no year zero. 1901-2000, and the next millenium starts with 2001.
Therefore, there are two different counting methods, which would seem to
conflict with each other. Simple. No need to get hostile.
Eldred
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>> > So the decade of the 90's is from 1991 to 2000? Don't think so. >> > The whole thing is semantics anyway. If you think about it logically, >you can >> > see the point on BOTH sides... >Uhhh, no you can't. Sorry, I've been trying to stay out of these >wars, but stubborn idiots have pushed me to my limit. You don't >start counting ANYTHING with "0", you start counting things with >ONE. As in "year ONE", as in "year ONE to 100 was the first >century. Year ONE to 1000, was the first millennium, and year >Two Thousand and ONE will start the NEXT millennium."Quoted text (11 lines)
>So, you say that we count as follows: >2 Before Christ >1 Before Christ >1 After Christ >2 After Chrst etc. >Then we forget the year in which christ was born, which must be the year >0! >Han MonseesOkay. Thanks.
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> >Joe, it's based on the fact that we (the vast bulk of the so-called > >"western world") use the Gregorian calendar. We count a decade as being > >ten years, the first year is year 1 (not year 0) and the last year in the > >decade is year 10 (not year 0). > >Therefore a century is from Year 1 to Year 100 and a millennium is from > >Year 1 to Year 1000. > >To conclude, the 20th. century ends at midnight Year 2000 and the 21st. > >century starts in 2001. > So the decade of the 90's is from 1991 to 2000? Don't think so. > The whole thing is semantics anyway. If you think about it logically, you can > see the point on BOTH sides... > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply."When reason fails the ignorant, insult is brought to bear".
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> > So the decade of the 90's is from 1991 to 2000? Don't think so. > > The whole thing is semantics anyway. If you think about it logically, you can > > see the point on BOTH sides... > You're really over-estimating this jerk... > -- > ..... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... ..... > . . > . "Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to . > . their level, then beat you with experience." . > ..... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .....Here's one for ya's:
If B.C was before Christ and A.D. is after his death, what did they
call it when he was alive? :)
>Here's one for ya's:
>If B.C was before Christ and A.D. is after his death, what did they
>call it when he was alive? :)
A.D. stands for "Anno Domini", Latin for 'Year of Our Lord'.
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> >Here's one for ya's:
> >If B.C was before Christ and A.D. is after his death, what did they
> >call it when he was alive? :)
> A.D. stands for "Anno Domini", Latin for 'Year of Our Lord'.
So... you're saying that the first "year of our Lord" was called
(either at the time it was happening or at anytime thereafter in
history) "year zero"?
- TP
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skotty skrev i meldingen ...
M.C - meanwhile Christ.
mk
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>> >Here's one for ya's: >> >If B.C was before Christ and A.D. is after his death, what did they >> >call it when he was alive? :) >> A.D. stands for "Anno Domini", Latin for 'Year of Our Lord'. >So... you're saying that the first "year of our Lord" was called >(either at the time it was happening or at anytime thereafter in >history) "year zero"?: Joe, it's based on the fact that we (the vast bulk of the so-called
: "western world") use the Gregorian calendar. We count a decade as being
: ten years, the first year is year 1 (not year 0) and the last year in the
: decade is year 10 (not year 0).
Bzzzt. Wrong. The '90s ended on 31/12/1999. The '80s ended
31/12/1989. etc.
: Therefore a century is from Year 1 to Year 100 and a millennium is from
: Year 1 to Year 1000.
: To conclude, the 20th. century ends at midnight Year 2000 and the 21st.
: century starts in 2001.
Wrong again. There is already a good post with a link to an explanation
of the Common Era Calendar. And indeed, these calendars are a product of
society's, and history's perception, therefore it is equally valid to
consider the millenium change as the day that most people agree it
changes. Not when a pedantic number cruncher says it ends.
Stephen
:>
:> >The new millenium isn't until 2001.
:>
:> Not. It's been 1000 years since the year 1000, that's a Millenium. If
:> you want to get really technical about it, most scholars agree that
:> Jesus was born in 4-5 BC, so the "millenium" was four years ago.
:>
:> Joe McGinn
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: That's not "counting", that's the digits available for your use.
: Open up a dozen of eggs and count them. The digit "0" is available
: for use (you'll use it later, when you get to "ten"), but you don't
: call the first egg "zero", you count it as "one", and unless you're
: a total dolt, you'll end up at 12.
I opened my egg container and started counting. Unfortunately it was
empty. I ended up counting "zero" eggs.
Stephen
: Are you calling *me* a stubborn idiot?
: So how do YOU count the decade of the 90's? With decades, people count from
: "0". I.E. 1990 - 1999. For the millenium, people count from "1", because
: there was no year zero. 1901-2000, and the next millenium starts with 2001.
: Therefore, there are two different counting methods, which would seem to
: conflict with each other. Simple. No need to get hostile.
When did we change to a hundred year millenium? Is this to give us more
opportunities for gala New Year's festivities? Or is it so*** Clark
gets one more kick at the can?
Stephen
FYI Dave
Use capitalisation in Christ. It's a name.
Apostrophe in Don't. Not a semi-colon.
Only one "n" in enumerate
You call it tomato and I'll call it tomato hehe.
MS
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> FYI Dave > Use capitalisation in Christ. It's a name. > > christ. > Apostrophe in Don't. Not a semi-colon. > > I don;t know what system they were using at that time to > Only one "n" in enumerate > >ennumerate > You call it tomato and I'll call it tomato hehe. > MSCheers Chuck. <G>
Sure I'm not perfect with my grammar and spelling but I do remember one
quote from the bible.
He without sin cast the first stone <BWG>
MS
BTW. I'm an airframe engineer not an Oxford litarary Don !
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> > FYI Dave > > Use capitalisation in Christ. It's a name. > > > christ. > > Apostrophe in Don't. Not a semi-colon. > > > I don;t know what system they were using at that time to > > Only one "n" in enumerate > > >ennumerate > > You call it tomato and I'll call it tomato hehe. > > MS > LMAO!!!! Aren't paybacks great? BTW-it's capitalization. > -- > file://Chuck Kandler #70 > file://ChuckK or KS70 on Won.net > file://K&S Racing > file://http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 > file://The box said "Windows 0x5f or better", so I installed LINUX!Quoted text (9 lines)
> : That's not "counting", that's the digits available for your use. > : Open up a dozen of eggs and count them. The digit "0" is available > : for use (you'll use it later, when you get to "ten"), but you don't > : call the first egg "zero", you count it as "one", and unless you're > : a total dolt, you'll end up at 12. > I opened my egg container and started counting. Unfortunately it was > empty. I ended up counting "zero" eggs.:>
:>
:> : That's not "counting", that's the digits available for your use.
:>
:> : Open up a dozen of eggs and count them. The digit "0" is available
:> : for use (you'll use it later, when you get to "ten"), but you don't
:> : call the first egg "zero", you count it as "one", and unless you're
:> : a total dolt, you'll end up at 12.
:>
:> I opened my egg container and started counting. Unfortunately it was
:> empty. I ended up counting "zero" eggs.
: Which isn't surprising, as you obviously have a big problem with
: comprehension ("a dozen of eggs", as I said, not "my egg container"
: as you so stupidly state.) If you counted "zero", then you have a
: much bigger problem than being a roaring, flaming ***.
Lighten up. It was simply meant as humour. How you could see this as a
personal attack is beyond me.
Stephen
>FYI Dave
FYI Mork, my name's not Dave.
I use lower case delberately to***off christians. It's funny to watch
them get all bent out of shape when someone doesn't buy into their silly
fairy tale.
That's a typo. I had a keyboard for a long time that had the apostrophe
where the semi-colon is now and since I don't type properly I keep hitting
it when I'm going for the apostrophe. I usually go through and change them
all afterwards since I hit the right key about 5% of the time. I guess I
missed that correction, thank you for noticing. BTW, you don't have to
capitalize a word at the end of a sentence.
I'll remember that, now. Thanks.
But the important thing is that we can both spell it better than Dan Quayle.
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>Cheers Chuck. <G>
>Sure I'm not perfect with my grammar and spelling but I do remember one
>quote from the bible.
You forgot the comma after Sure.
Isn't that, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"?
You forgot the comma after literary, too.
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>LMAO!!!! Aren't paybacks great? BTW-it's capitalization.
Except he does the same thing I do...he makes mistakes when he corrects
people. All in good fun.
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>: Are you calling *me* a stubborn idiot? >: So how do YOU count the decade of the 90's? With decades, people count from >: "0". I.E. 1990 - 1999. For the millenium, people count from "1", because >: there was no year zero. 1901-2000, and the next millenium starts with 2001. >: Therefore, there are two different counting methods, which would seem to >: conflict with each other. Simple. No need to get hostile. >When did we change to a hundred year millenium? Is this to give us more >opportunities for gala New Year's festivities? Or is it so*** Clark >gets one more kick at the can?On Sun, 02 Jan 2000 22:45:56 +1100, Leaky_Valve
>Why celebrate the fact that you are one year closer to the grave?
>I can appreciate not forgetting one's birthdate, where we raise a glass
>to the fact that we were born, but I cannot understand this almost
>hysterical euphoria that occurs at the end/beginning of each year. Why?
Maybe it'd help for you to think of it as a convenient celebration
that we've *all* made it through another year. That's how I think of
it anyway. If that doesn't work, you could also try celebrating the
fact that everyone's entering a new year, chock full of possibilities
and new experiences.
For me, it's the birthday thing. So, I'm celebrating the fact that my
parents put me on this earth? How self-centered is that?
--mK
It looks like the thread flaming each other about when someone started
counting AD or BC and how to name the next or past group of years is going
to be longer than the thanks we gave to the folks at Papy for such a great
program as GPL. It saddens me to think that when someone sees things a
little differently than another that each view has to be defended till the
death with personnal attacks and spelllling error bomb threats. The saddest
part is how revealing these discussions are about the current state of our
tolerance for each other and our differing views. I wonder if Christ was as
intolerant as we seem to be. I wonder if he was intolerant of intolerance?
Oh well, more than enough said.
Take care all
Larry
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> What the hell? Am I the only one with a working PC on New Years morn? Or > are all of you just light-weights? Happy freaking New Mellinium peeps! I > hope you all crash hard in turn one just because you're all too damn > hungover to judge the corner! Yes, I'm stoned on Jack Daniels, so you > have no excuse; unless you're all f***ing right now. Buzz me, or flame > me, hell I don't care, I made it!!! Have fun! > Tony Long > P.S. Damn, I can still type.The guy has simply showed himself to be an ignorant pedant. I'll not bite
again.
MS
> Do you apply the same credo to other religions? They are all "fairy tales", are
> they not? Care to inflame the Muslims, perchance? I believe that they are most
> tolerant of those who "piss them off", as Mr. Rushdie will vouch.
> > I use lower case delberately to***off christians. It's funny to watch
> > them get all bent out of shape when someone doesn't buy into their silly
> > fairy tale.
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>Do you apply the same credo to other religions?
Yes.
As far as I am concerned, yes.
Though I understand why it appeals to some people, I think the whole concept
of religion is silly. I don't care who or what you worship.
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>The guy has simply showed himself to be an ignorant pedant. I'll not bite
>again.
What am I ignorant of, exactly?
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>Sir.
>As I reported earlier, I will not bite again. I respectfully ask you to take
>your flame bait elsewhere.
I'm not going anywhere, you can just killfile me if you don't like what I
write.
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>> BTW-it's capitalization.
>Not necessarily, either is correct. More commonly "s" in English and
>"z" in American English.
Why does this happen, I wonder? Were Americans just feeling all haughty and
said "Hah! we won't spell it *their* way, we'll change a letter...that'll
show 'em."
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Everyone is ignorant to some degree, except of course Jesus Christ.
You might want to concern yourself more upon the fact that you are
such a tiresome pedant.
Personally, I think you should focus on your spiritual side prior to
improving your social skills.
"Daxe Rexford" wrote
Only in the USA, as usual.
> LMAO!!!! Aren't paybacks great? BTW-it's capitalization.
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Do you apply the same credo to other religions? They are all "fairy tales", are
they not? Care to inflame the Muslims, perchance? I believe that they are most
tolerant of those who "piss them off", as Mr. Rushdie will vouch.
> I use lower case delberately to***off christians. It's funny to watch
> them get all bent out of shape when someone doesn't buy into their silly
> fairy tale.
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Not necessarily, either is correct. More commonly "s" in English and
"z" in American English.
Cheers!
John
On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:25:40 -0500, "Daxe Rexford"
>Isn't that, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"?
No, you had an extra space after "cast"....
Cheers!
John
Sir.
As I reported earlier, I will not bite again. I respectfully ask you to take
your flame bait elsewhere.
MS
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>: Are you calling *me* a stubborn idiot? >: So how do YOU count the decade of the 90's? With decades, people count >from >: "0". I.E. 1990 - 1999. For the millenium, people count from "1", because >: there was no year zero. 1901-2000, and the next millenium starts with >2001. >: Therefore, there are two different counting methods, which would seem to >: conflict with each other. Simple. No need to get hostile. >When did we change to a hundred year millenium? Is this to give us more >opportunities for gala New Year's festivities? Or is it so*** Clark >gets one more kick at the can? >StephenQuoted text (12 lines)
>Do you apply the same credo to other religions? They are all "fairy tales", >are >they not? Care to inflame the Muslims, perchance? I believe that they are >most >tolerant of those who "piss them off", as Mr. Rushdie will vouch. >> I use lower case delberately to***off christians. It's funny to watch >> them get all bent out of shape when someone doesn't buy into their silly >> fairy tale.>FYI Dave
>Use capitalisation in Christ. It's a name.
>> christ.
For some of us, it's not a name, it's a myth...
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> On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:25:40 -0500, "Daxe Rexford" > >Isn't that, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"? > No, you had an extra space after "cast".... > Cheers! > John>Everyone is ignorant to some degree, except of course Jesus Christ.
If believing that makes you happy, I'm glad for you. There are too many
inconsistencies and unanswered questions involved (for starters) for my
taste.
You focus on that which you care about (which I think is tiresome and
trivial and dogmatic) and I will focus on what I care about which you find
tiresome and trivial and dogmatic.
I promise you my spiritual side is likely much more well-explored than
yours. We would probably disagree on the notion that spirituality must, by
definition, include belief/faith/whatever in Jesus Christ. My decision to
discount Christian mythology is not based in ignorance, but just the
opposite. One essential difference in our spiritualities is that I don't
insist mine includes objective 'truth.'
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:>> BTW-it's capitalization.
:>
:>Not necessarily, either is correct. More commonly "s" in English and
:>"z" in American English.
: Why does this happen, I wonder? Were Americans just feeling all haughty and
: said "Hah! we won't spell it *their* way, we'll change a letter...that'll
: show 'em."
: ~daxe
I don't know, but it drives me up the wall. Every time I write a
scientific paper for publication, I write it with a British spelling
convention, being Canadian. If I decide later to submit to an american
journal, I have to hunt down "extra" u's and add all those
"zeeeees". Small matter, but irritating.
Stephen
>Hit that nail in one. It was actually "phonetic" spelling in most cases, the
>American line being that there were many instances (in the case of 'z', for example)
>where the sound was more 'zzzz' than 'ssss'.
There's some cases where I wish phonetic spelling were used, like the
acronym 'GIF.' Some folks pronounce it as though the first letter were a J
(like the peanut butter), but I pronounce it with a hard 'G' because the the
first letter stands for 'graphic', not 'jraphic.'
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>Why, Mark? Can't come up with a reasonable argument to support Mr. Draxe? And
>just how does my response make me an "ignorant pedant"? Can you enlighten me on
>that one?
I don't think he wants to play. I further think that was directed at me, so
you're off the hook, LV.
~daxe
>> The guy has simply showed himself to be an ignorant pedant. I'll not bite
>> again.
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>I don't know, but it drives me up the wall. Every time I write a
>scientific paper for publication, I write it with a British spelling
>convention, being Canadian. If I decide later to submit to an american
>journal, I have to hunt down "extra" u's and add all those
>"zeeeees". Small matter, but irritating.
Too bad there wasn't some convention like specifying the character set in
use in an HTML document. You could put the regional and language info in
the heading of the paper and it would account for all those things. I may
rag on people that can't spell, but at least I make exceptions for regional
variations (if I am aware of them.)
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You miss the point entirely Eldred.
It is arguable whether Jesus H Christ existed as a divine entity or not.
Personally, I couldn't care less being one of no particular faith.
The point is that the guy cannot lambast people for minor spelling mistakes
and then claim a deliberate abuse of the rules of English grammar as his
right without reeking of hypocracy.
Fictional character or not. Jesus Christ has capitals fixed to his name in
the same way that David Copperfield, Robinson Crusoe or Mickey Mouse do. A
proper noun is a proper noun, period.
The fact that the guy stated that he used lower case letters deliberately to
"piss off Christians" i my opinion simply speaks volumes as to his
character - seemingly based on intolerance, hypocracy and a genuine desire
to stir the proverbial stick standing in it.
MS
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> >FYI Dave > >Use capitalisation in Christ. It's a name. > >> christ. > For some of us, it's not a name, it's a myth... > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beatsNot you.
I was refering to him. My apologies if this was not clear.
MS
> Why, Mark? Can't come up with a reasonable argument to support Mr. Draxe? And
> just how does my response make me an "ignorant pedant"? Can you enlighten me on
> that one?
> > The guy has simply showed himself to be an ignorant pedant. I'll not bite
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> > again. > > MS > > > Do you apply the same credo to other religions? They are all "fairy > > tales", are > > > they not? Care to inflame the Muslims, perchance? I believe that theyQuoted text (9 lines)
> > most > > > tolerant of those who "piss them off", as Mr. Rushdie will vouch. > > > > I use lower case delberately to***off christians. It's funny to > > watch > > > > them get all bent out of shape when someone doesn't buy into their>The point is that the guy cannot lambast people for minor spelling mistakes
>and then claim a deliberate abuse of the rules of English grammar as his
>right without reeking of hypocracy.
Sure I can. There is a big difference between making a mistake because you
don't know any better (in which case it isn't really a mistake, is it?) and
doing something incorrectly on purpose for a specific reason.
Ever notice that I don't capitalize my own name in my signature either? I'm
not the first person to do that and I won't be the last. I didn't fail to
capitalize it out of ignorance of the rules, so picking on people who are
ignorant of the rules isn't hypocritical.
I'm not intolerant of Christians, I just think a lot of them are pretty
funny the way they get all foamed up about silly little things regarding
their beliefs. I'm sure plenty of people think I'm pretty pathetic and
silly for getting worked up about spelling errors and that's fine with me.
I'll let you know when your opinion of me starts to matter. Don't hold your
breath. Do I like to stir people up? Yep. I don't think being complacent
about illiteracy is a good thing. I also like to be helpful sometimes and I
do so in here on a regular basis. Like most people, I'm a mixed bag.
As far as character, if you think that someone who likes to poke fun at
religious people and occasionally pick on peoples spelling errors makes me a
bad human being, then your criteria for character seems very shallow, IMHO.
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Why, Mark? Can't come up with a reasonable argument to support Mr. Draxe? And
just how does my response make me an "ignorant pedant"? Can you enlighten me on
that one?
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> The guy has simply showed himself to be an ignorant pedant. I'll not bite > again. > MS > > Do you apply the same credo to other religions? They are all "fairy > tales", are > > they not? Care to inflame the Muslims, perchance? I believe that they are > most > > tolerant of those who "piss them off", as Mr. Rushdie will vouch. > > > I use lower case delberately to***off christians. It's funny to > watch > > > them get all bent out of shape when someone doesn't buy into their silly > > > fairy tale. > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News > ==---------- > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers > ==-----Hang on....was your comment directed at me or Draxe Rexford?
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> Why, Mark? Can't come up with a reasonable argument to support Mr. Draxe? And > just how does my response make me an "ignorant pedant"? Can you enlighten me on > that one? > > The guy has simply showed himself to be an ignorant pedant. I'll not bite > > again. > > MS > > > Do you apply the same credo to other religions? They are all "fairy > > tales", are > > > they not? Care to inflame the Muslims, perchance? I believe that they are > > most > > > tolerant of those who "piss them off", as Mr. Rushdie will vouch. > > > > I use lower case delberately to***off christians. It's funny to > > watch > > > > them get all bent out of shape when someone doesn't buy into their silly > > > > fairy tale. > > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News > > ==---------- > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > > > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers > > ==-----Hit that nail in one. It was actually "phonetic" spelling in most cases, the
American line being that there were many instances (in the case of 'z', for example)
where the sound was more 'zzzz' than 'ssss'.
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> >> BTW-it's capitalization. > >Not necessarily, either is correct. More commonly "s" in English and > >"z" in American English. > Why does this happen, I wonder? Were Americans just feeling all haughty and > said "Hah! we won't spell it *their* way, we'll change a letter...that'll > show 'em." > ~daxe > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==----->The fact that the guy stated that he used lower case letters deliberately to
>"piss off Christians" i my opinion simply speaks volumes as to his
>character - seemingly based on intolerance, hypocracy and a genuine desire
>to stir the proverbial stick standing in it.
Well, at the time I responded, I hadn't read his reasoning for it...<g>
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I suppose you pronounce NASA "Nay-sa" for the same reason?
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>>Hit that nail in one. It was actually "phonetic" spelling in most cases, >the >>American line being that there were many instances (in the case of 'z', for >example) >>where the sound was more 'zzzz' than 'ssss'. >There's some cases where I wish phonetic spelling were used, like the >acronym 'GIF.' Some folks pronounce it as though the first letter were a J >(like the peanut butter), but I pronounce it with a hard 'G' because the the >first letter stands for 'graphic', not 'jraphic.'No. I don't think there are too many alternate pronunciations for NASA. It
stands on its own as an acronym.
To be honest with you I don't know what the exact phonetic rule is that
could be applied to GIF, but I learned to read when phonetics were the
method and I said 'GIF' (hard G) before I even knew what it stood for. You
can find common examples of both. For instance, the liquor that is a
distillate of juniper berries is pronounced as though it were spelled "Jin",
but a job for a musician is called 'Gig.' In both cases you have the letter
'g' followed by the letter 'i' and then a consonant at the beginning of a
syllable, but the 'g' is pronouced differently.
If GIF is to be pronouced 'jif', then it would seem the word 'jiffy' should
be spelled 'giffy.' The word 'giggle' is not pronouced as 'jiggle', etc.
There probably is no real answer. Unlike NASA, you don't have thousands of
people on television saying the word for years and years using one certain
pronunciation to create a de facto correctness.
Here is something that cites both but lists the 'g' one first:
http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=Graphics%20Interchange...
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I suppose it is ultimately personal preference.
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:>There's some cases where I wish phonetic spelling were used, like the
:>acronym 'GIF.' Some folks pronounce it as though the first letter were a J
:>(like the peanut butter), but I pronounce it with a hard 'G' because the the
:>first letter stands for 'graphic', not 'jraphic.'
:>
: I suppose you pronounce NASA "Nay-sa" for the same reason?
Actually, I always pronounced it "Nah-Sa", but I'm Canadian.
Stephen
: : I suppose you pronounce NASA "Nay-sa" for the same reason?
: Actually, I always pronounced it "Nah-Sa", but I'm Canadian.
: Stephen
And immediately after posting that, I realised that I had completely
missed the point of your message. :)
Stephen
Wow..... wow. I had no idea such a rabbit-chasing thread would result
from a little J.D. induced joy. Let me revise and condense my original
post (without the influence of Jack Daniels): Hi fellas, be happy.
That's really all I wanted to say in the first post anyway.
God bless.
Tony Long
P.S. Sorry for not checking my spelling. And yes I know the God bless
statement doesn't bode well with the obscenities in my first post; thank
God for His forgiving grace (what a great example). Now, I'm gonna turn
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