This is for any fool who thinks 2000 is the new Millennium.

When does the millennium officially begin? check web site http://greenwich2000.com/time/ (& century & decade) 1 January 2001 "We have uniformly rejected all letters and declined all discussion upon the question of when the present century ends, as it is one of the most absurd that can engage the public attention, and we are astonished to find it has been the subject of so much dispute, since it appears plain. The present century will not terminate till January 1, 1801, unless it can be made out that 99 are 100... It is a silly, childish discussion, and only exposes the want of brains of those who maintain a contrary opinion to that we have stated" The Times, 26 December 1799 All the experts agree (and have done for centuries) that the millennium officially starts on 1 January 2001 and NOT on 1 January 2000 as much of the hype would have you believe. The "last of the millennium" or the "first of the millennium" Why? The millennium officially starts on 1 January 2001. But most people are regarding 1 January 2000 as a good day to start the party! Why? - Because there is no year "0" in our calendar system. It started at 1AD; two thousand years on, or two millennia is celebrated in 2001! BUT... It is on 1 January 2000 that the so called 'millennium bug' takes effect Where? The millennium officially starts at Greenwich, England. But many people are confused that it doesn't begin at the International Date Line. Each new day starts at the International Date Line which is 12 hours ahead of GMT. But it is only a new day in that local time zone. A Universal Day was created by International Convention in 1884 in Washington DC, USA. This Universal Day operates to World Time or Universal Time at Greenwich, England; historically referred to as GMT (Greenwich Mean Time). It begins at midnight GMT (I.E. 12 noon at the International Date Line) When it is midnight Greenwich it is the official start of the new Universal Day and the whole world can celebrate. That reference point is midnight at the cross-hairs of the Airy telescope in the Old Greenwich Observatory in Greenwich, England. It is also the point of zero longitude; the Prime Meridian of the World also known as the Greenwich Meridian which can be seen on all modern World Maps. All time and space on planet earth is measured by 2 reference lines. The lines of longitude based on the Greenwich Meridian (0 Longitude) and the Equator (0 Latitude). You can express where you are precisely by your latitude and longitude and in time by Greenwich Mean Time. Addition References RECOMMENDED: There is a complete and fascinating article called A Chronology - Explanation of Times through various eras of history For the full story see the Millennium Newsletter and more information from the Royal Observatory Greenwich -- Rory S. Brown Canadian Distributor for Hyper Stimulator "The World's Best Racing Car Simulators" Visit www.hyperstimcanada.com Home Designed Computers by Rory "Custom Computers for your needs!" Visit www.directcomputers.com Unit 7 - 9947 - 151 Street Surrey, BC Canada V3R 9A1 Phone 604-671-5997 Fax 604-930-9983 Official Supplier of Computers & Hyper Stimulators to: the Players Racing Simulator Challenge Tour and The Kool Racing Challenge Tour Visit www.players-racing.com

this entire subject is irritating and off topic plonk

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> When does the millennium officially begin? check web site > http://greenwich2000.com/time/ > (& century & decade) > 1 January 2001 > "We have uniformly rejected all letters and declined all discussion upon

the > question of when the present century ends, as it is one of the most absurd > that can engage the public attention, and we are astonished to find it has > been the subject of so much dispute, since it appears plain. The present > century will not terminate till January 1, 1801, unless it can be made out > that 99 are 100... It is a silly, childish discussion, and only exposes the > want of brains of those who maintain a contrary opinion to that we have > stated" > The Times, 26 December 1799 > All the experts agree (and have done for centuries) that the millennium > officially starts on 1 January 2001 and NOT on 1 January 2000 as much of the > hype would have you believe. The "last of the millennium" or the "first of

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> the millennium" > Why? > The millennium officially starts on 1 January 2001. But most people are > regarding 1 January 2000 as a good day to start the party! > Why? - Because there is no year "0" in our calendar system. It started at > 1AD; two thousand years on, or two millennia is celebrated in 2001! > BUT... It is on 1 January 2000 that the so called 'millennium bug' takes > effect > Where? > The millennium officially starts at Greenwich, England. But many people

are > confused that it doesn't begin at the International Date Line. Each new day > starts at the International Date Line which is 12 hours ahead of GMT. But > it is only a new day in that local time zone. > A Universal Day was created by International Convention in 1884 in > Washington DC, USA. This Universal Day operates to World Time or Universal > Time at Greenwich, England; historically referred to as GMT (Greenwich Mean > Time). It begins at midnight GMT (I.E. 12 noon at the International Date > Line) > When it is midnight Greenwich it is the official start of the new Universal > Day and the whole world can celebrate. > That reference point is midnight at the cross-hairs of the Airy telescope in

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> the Old Greenwich Observatory in Greenwich, England. It is also the point > of zero longitude; the Prime Meridian of the World also known as the > Greenwich Meridian which can be seen on all modern World Maps. > All time and space on planet earth is measured by 2 reference lines. The > lines of longitude based on the Greenwich Meridian (0 Longitude) and the > Equator (0 Latitude). You can express where you are precisely by your > latitude and longitude and in time by Greenwich Mean Time. > Addition References > RECOMMENDED: There is a complete and fascinating article called A > Chronology - Explanation of Times through various eras of history > For the full story see the Millennium Newsletter and more information from > the Royal Observatory Greenwich > -- > Rory S. Brown > Canadian Distributor for Hyper Stimulator > "The World's Best Racing Car Simulators" > Visit www.hyperstimcanada.com > Home Designed Computers by Rory > "Custom Computers for your needs!" > Visit www.directcomputers.com > Unit 7 - 9947 - 151 Street > Surrey, BC Canada V3R 9A1 > Phone 604-671-5997 > Fax 604-930-9983 > Official Supplier of Computers & Hyper Stimulators to: > the Players Racing Simulator Challenge Tour and > The Kool Racing Challenge Tour > Visit www.players-racing.com

Actually I don't care if it's the new millennium or not, I had a great party last night! :) Andre

Instead of spending the past day digging up all this info, you could have simply enjoyed New Year's Eve/Day like everybody else. -- Gary

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> When does the millennium officially begin? check web site > http://greenwich2000.com/time/ > (& century & decade) > 1 January 2001 > "We have uniformly rejected all letters and declined all discussion upon the > question of when the present century ends, as it is one of the most absurd > that can engage the public attention, and we are astonished to find it has > been the subject of so much dispute, since it appears plain. The present > century will not terminate till January 1, 1801, unless it can be made out > that 99 are 100... It is a silly, childish discussion, and only exposes the > want of brains of those who maintain a contrary opinion to that we have > stated" > The Times, 26 December 1799 > All the experts agree (and have done for centuries) that the millennium > officially starts on 1 January 2001 and NOT on 1 January 2000 as much of the > hype would have you believe. The "last of the millennium" or the "first of > the millennium" > Why? > The millennium officially starts on 1 January 2001. But most people are > regarding 1 January 2000 as a good day to start the party! > Why? - Because there is no year "0" in our calendar system. It started at > 1AD; two thousand years on, or two millennia is celebrated in 2001! > BUT... It is on 1 January 2000 that the so called 'millennium bug' takes > effect > Where? > The millennium officially starts at Greenwich, England. But many people are > confused that it doesn't begin at the International Date Line. Each new day > starts at the International Date Line which is 12 hours ahead of GMT. But > it is only a new day in that local time zone. > A Universal Day was created by International Convention in 1884 in > Washington DC, USA. This Universal Day operates to World Time or Universal > Time at Greenwich, England; historically referred to as GMT (Greenwich Mean > Time). It begins at midnight GMT (I.E. 12 noon at the International Date > Line) > When it is midnight Greenwich it is the official start of the new Universal > Day and the whole world can celebrate. > That reference point is midnight at the cross-hairs of the Airy telescope in > the Old Greenwich Observatory in Greenwich, England. It is also the point > of zero longitude; the Prime Meridian of the World also known as the > Greenwich Meridian which can be seen on all modern World Maps. > All time and space on planet earth is measured by 2 reference lines. The > lines of longitude based on the Greenwich Meridian (0 Longitude) and the > Equator (0 Latitude). You can express where you are precisely by your > latitude and longitude and in time by Greenwich Mean Time. > Addition References > RECOMMENDED: There is a complete and fascinating article called A > Chronology - Explanation of Times through various eras of history > For the full story see the Millennium Newsletter and more information from > the Royal Observatory Greenwich > -- > Rory S. Brown > Canadian Distributor for Hyper Stimulator > "The World's Best Racing Car Simulators" > Visit www.hyperstimcanada.com > Home Designed Computers by Rory > "Custom Computers for your needs!" > Visit www.directcomputers.com > Unit 7 - 9947 - 151 Street > Surrey, BC Canada V3R 9A1 > Phone 604-671-5997 > Fax 604-930-9983 > Official Supplier of Computers & Hyper Stimulators to: > the Players Racing Simulator Challenge Tour and > The Kool Racing Challenge Tour > Visit www.players-racing.com

I should keep my mouth shut but I figure, "what the hell" ;-) The calendar doesn't have the year "0" because of a mistake in calculations. If I remember right, the Gregorian<sp?> calendar that we use was finished in the 1500's. Someone goofed and never put the "0" year in there. Plus, it was just a guess that Jesus was born 2000 years ago. The next best guess is something like 3 or 4 BC. So, when does the new milenium<sp> begin? Our calendar says Jan-1 2000. The Media believes it's Jan. 1, 2000. Others believe Jan. 1, 2001. And still others would say it is officially 1000 years after Jesus was born, or in our case 2000 year. So that would make it 3 or 4 years ago (maybe). The best thing to say about when the new millennium starts is to say.. when do you believe it starts? The answer given will always be right to the person answering. Sounds good to me anyhow;-) Mike -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

HAH! Call me a fool huh? Man, just how ignorant are you? You'll believe an editor because he sides with your views? Heck, he wrote that just 300 years after folks thought the world was flat and when folks were saying they'd reached the peak of what could be invented. And you think a 200 year old commentary is going to change the fact that the Gregorian calendar is made up and didn't come in to existance until the 600's? Yet you want me to believe that the Millenium is next year? *** man, start counting at 1BC and 2000 is the Millenium based on, yes, the Gregorian calendar... who decided we started the millenium count at 1AD? YOU? Time? Hell, for some reason folks tend to ignore 1BC like "all time" started at 1AD or something. Time has been going on long before any sort of calendar tried to measure it. So, if the "World" decides to celebrate the Millenium at 2000, they CAN, there's 1000 years passed at some point, let's see 1999,1998, 1997, etc. YES, yes, I can count backwards to 1000 years, so yes, 2000 is a Millenium. I know you know that a Millenium is 1000 years, look it up in the encyclopedia or dictionary, its 1000 years, and neither say its 1000 years starting at 1AD. And if you use the Common Era calendar (or Solar Calendar) as many scientific communities use you'll count from 1000 to 1999 as they adjusted for the missing 0 in the gregorian calendar by aligning 0 to 1BC. SO, celebrate it next year if you want, but a Millenium is 1000 years, period, no matter where you start counting, so start counting at 4AD and have a Millenium party in 2004. Most folks don't know "why" this is the Millenium, nor do they care, and I don't really care, I just hate seeing ignorance spewed out based on what you perceive as the truth. They created this piece of ***called a calendar, and BACK DATED the stupid thing to try to match the birth of Jesus. The only reason at that time they didn't use 0 is because they didn't have a 0 in the system to denote that, so "they" went 1BC to 1AD. If I made up the calendar today, would I count back to 1BC or would I put a 0 in it? I think a zero would be there. And last time I checked, not a single one of my calendars said "based on the Gregorian system". You and many others assume that today we are basing time measurement on the Gregorian calendar. Says who? Do you think the Muslim's use the Gregorian calendar? What about Atheists? You think Atheists are going to believe in "that" calendar when its based on a CHRISTIAN birthdate? And for the other moron, Leaky Valve... when they say decade of the 80's they mean 1980 to 1989... 70's=70 to 78... 90's=90 to 99... so apparently "they" do start counting at ZERO muther***er. I'd love to see you convince your elementary class that the Decade of the 80's was 1981 to 1990. Geezus pete are you stupid trying to convince us that we start counting century's at 1. The 1800's... oh wait, I guess that's 1801 to 1900. HAHAHA! Go crawl back under the rock where you left your brain. What Rory said is right, the Millenium is next year if you count from 1AD, but you're arguement is stupid and ignorant and doesn't help his out. Both of you are seeking to support a futile arguement. The Calendar is made up, and any sort of time measurement is subjective, so have your opinion on when you think it is, and let others have their's, but don't sit around trying to make it out like you're right and they are wrong. You're both right and you're both wrong, it's all opinion and it'll get you nowhere, so go party next year and celebrate the Millenium then, and then celebrate the next year, etc. Open your eyes and see that things are not black-n-white, they are only shades of grey. Greg

I'm one of the four hor*** and we have planned the apocalypse for next year. We had a hell of a time deciding when the millenium was too but we figured that everyone would be less prepared for it next year as opposed to this one. So see you all next year! A.T. Stiff (one of the fab four "apocalypse" hor***)

>HAH! Call me a fool huh? Man, just how ignorant are you? This was wonderful. Thanks. :o) ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

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Faced with such a concise, beautifully structured and eloquently-worded argument as that it is simply impossible to create counter-point. Game, set and match, Mr. Gregorian. Next patient, please.

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> HAH! Call me a fool huh? Man, just how ignorant are you? You'll believe > an editor because he sides with your views? Heck, he wrote that just 300 > years after folks thought the world was flat and when folks were saying > they'd reached the peak of what could be invented. And you think a 200 > year old commentary is going to change the fact that the Gregorian > calendar is made up and didn't come in to existance until the 600's? Yet > you want me to believe that the Millenium is next year? *** man, start > counting at 1BC and 2000 is the Millenium based on, yes, the Gregorian > calendar... who decided we started the millenium count at 1AD? YOU? Time? > Hell, for some reason folks tend to ignore 1BC like "all time" started at > 1AD or something. Time has been going on long before any sort of calendar > tried to measure it. So, if the "World" decides to celebrate the > Millenium at 2000, they CAN, there's 1000 years passed at some point, > let's see 1999,1998, 1997, etc. YES, yes, I can count backwards to 1000 > years, so yes, 2000 is a Millenium. I know you know that a Millenium is > 1000 years, look it up in the encyclopedia or dictionary, its 1000 years, > and neither say its 1000 years starting at 1AD. > And if you use the Common Era calendar (or Solar Calendar) as many > scientific communities use you'll count from 1000 to 1999 as they > adjusted for the missing 0 in the gregorian calendar by aligning 0 to > 1BC. SO, celebrate it next year if you want, but a Millenium is 1000 > years, period, no matter where you start counting, so start counting at > 4AD and have a Millenium party in 2004. Most folks don't know "why" this > is the Millenium, nor do they care, and I don't really care, I just hate > seeing ignorance spewed out based on what you perceive as the truth. They > created this piece of ***called a calendar, and BACK DATED the stupid > thing to try to match the birth of Jesus. The only reason at that time > they didn't use 0 is because they didn't have a 0 in the system to denote > that, so "they" went 1BC to 1AD. If I made up the calendar today, would I > count back to 1BC or would I put a 0 in it? I think a zero would be > there. And last time I checked, not a single one of my calendars said > "based on the Gregorian system". You and many others assume that today we > are basing time measurement on the Gregorian calendar. Says who? Do you > think the Muslim's use the Gregorian calendar? What about Atheists? You > think Atheists are going to believe in "that" calendar when its based on > a CHRISTIAN birthdate? > And for the other moron, Leaky Valve... when they say decade of the 80's > they mean 1980 to 1989... 70's=70 to 78... 90's=90 to 99... so apparently > "they" do start counting at ZERO muther***er. I'd love to see you > convince your elementary class that the Decade of the 80's was 1981 to > 1990. Geezus pete are you stupid trying to convince us that we start > counting century's at 1. The 1800's... oh wait, I guess that's 1801 to > 1900. HAHAHA! Go crawl back under the rock where you left your brain. > What Rory said is right, the Millenium is next year if you count from > 1AD, but you're arguement is stupid and ignorant and doesn't help his > out. > Both of you are seeking to support a futile arguement. The Calendar is > made up, and any sort of time measurement is subjective, so have your > opinion on when you think it is, and let others have their's, but don't > sit around trying to make it out like you're right and they are wrong. > You're both right and you're both wrong, it's all opinion and it'll get > you nowhere, so go party next year and celebrate the Millenium then, and > then celebrate the next year, etc. Open your eyes and see that things are > not black-n-white, they are only shades of grey. > Greg > > When does the millennium officially begin? check web site > > http://greenwich2000.com/time/ > > (& century & decade) > > 1 January 2001 > > "We have uniformly rejected all letters and declined all discussion upon the > > question of when the present century ends, as it is one of the most absurd > > that can engage the public attention, and we are astonished to find it has > > been the subject of so much dispute, since it appears plain. The present > > century will not terminate till January 1, 1801, unless it can be made out > > that 99 are 100... It is a silly, childish discussion, and only exposes the > > want of brains of those who maintain a contrary opinion to that we have > > stated" > > The Times, 26 December 1799 > > All the experts agree (and have done for centuries) that the millennium > > officially starts on 1 January 2001 and NOT on 1 January 2000 as much of the > > hype would have you believe. The "last of the millennium" or the "first of > > the millennium" > > Why? > > The millennium officially starts on 1 January 2001. But most people are > > regarding 1 January 2000 as a good day to start the party! > > Why? - Because there is no year "0" in our calendar system. It started at > > 1AD; two thousand years on, or two millennia is celebrated in 2001! > > BUT... It is on 1 January 2000 that the so called 'millennium bug' takes > > effect > > Where? > > The millennium officially starts at Greenwich, England. But many people are > > confused that it doesn't begin at the International Date Line. Each new day > > starts at the International Date Line which is 12 hours ahead of GMT. But > > it is only a new day in that local time zone. > > A Universal Day was created by International Convention in 1884 in > > Washington DC, USA. This Universal Day operates to World Time or Universal > > Time at Greenwich, England; historically referred to as GMT (Greenwich Mean > > Time). It begins at midnight GMT (I.E. 12 noon at the International Date > > Line) > > When it is midnight Greenwich it is the official start of the new Universal > > Day and the whole world can celebrate. > > That reference point is midnight at the cross-hairs of the Airy telescope in > > the Old Greenwich Observatory in Greenwich, England. It is also the point > > of zero longitude; the Prime Meridian of the World also known as the

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"ana"? What's an "ana"....... the front half of a large South American snake?

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> >Addition References... > Jesus. Someone is so ana > Joe McGinn > _________________________ > GA-Sports Writer > http://www.ga-sports.com/

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> I'm one of the four hor*** and we have planned the apocalypse for next > year. We had a hell of a time deciding when the millenium was too but we > figured that everyone would be less prepared for it next year as opposed to > this one. So see you all next year! > A.T. Stiff (one of the fab four "apocalypse" hor***) > > Instead of spending the past day digging up all this info, you could have > > simply enjoyed New Year's Eve/Day like everybody else. > > -- > > Gary

-- Bob Curtin Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/ "If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green, baggy skin"

Jesus. Someone either has WAY to much time on their hands, or is so ***retentive that their ass could be used as a factory to turn coal into diamonds. Joe