Wheel locking up... (GPL)

Don't lock up the brakes :-) It's really bad on the tires when you do. That black trail you see in your mirror is just a lap's worth of tread shreaded off the tires :-( -- Chris Arndt =============================== 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up "All I can do on a given day is put myself in a position to win, and let circumstances dictate the outcome" -Richard Petty http://CArndt.tripod.com

Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and a number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on the 15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then you let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a great game...

Duh... (not be taken sarcastically or harshly). Its right at the thresh hold of skidding. The wheel will keep spinning but not at the same speed as the other one, looks really neat from in car.

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> Don't lock up the brakes :-) It's really bad on the tires when you do. That > black trail you see in your mirror is just a lap's worth of tread shreaded > off the tires :-( > -- > Chris Arndt > =============================== > 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion > 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up > "All I can do on a given day is put myself > in a position to win, and let circumstances > dictate the outcome" > -Richard Petty > http://CArndt.tripod.com > > Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it > > possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and a > > number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's > > really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza > > then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on the > > 15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then you > > let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car > > snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a > > great game...

ohhhh. Sounds like too much weight on one tire vs another. It seems to me that I had that problem at Kylami. To fix it I just stopped the sliding all together by removing front brake. -- Chris Arndt =============================== 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up "All I can do on a given day is put myself in a position to win, and let circumstances dictate the outcome" -Richard Petty http://CArndt.tripod.com > Duh... (not be taken sarcastically or harshly). Its right at the thresh > hold of skidding. The wheel will keep spinning but not at the same speed > as the other one, looks really neat from in car. > > Don't lock up the brakes :-) It's really bad on the tires when you do. That > > black trail you see in your mirror is just a lap's worth of tread shreaded > > off the tires :-( > > -- > > Chris Arndt > > =============================== > > 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion > > 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up > > "All I can do on a given day is put myself > > in a position to win, and let circumstances > > dictate the outcome" > > -Richard Petty > > http://CArndt.tripod.com > > > Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it > > > possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and a > > > number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's > > > really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza > > > then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on the > > > 15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then you > > > let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car > > > snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a > > > great game...

Well that would do and wrap the back end around in many amusing ways at the same time. I'll try it though...

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> ohhhh. > Sounds like too much weight on one tire vs another. It seems to me that I > had that problem at Kylami. To fix it I just stopped the sliding all > together by removing front brake. > -- > Chris Arndt > =============================== > 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion > 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up > "All I can do on a given day is put myself > in a position to win, and let circumstances > dictate the outcome" > -Richard Petty > http://CArndt.tripod.com > > Duh... (not be taken sarcastically or harshly). Its right at the thresh > > hold of skidding. The wheel will keep spinning but not at the same speed > > as the other one, looks really neat from in car. > > > Don't lock up the brakes :-) It's really bad on the tires when you do. > That > > > black trail you see in your mirror is just a lap's worth of tread > shreaded > > > off the tires :-( > > > -- > > > Chris Arndt > > > =============================== > > > 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion > > > 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up > > > "All I can do on a given day is put myself > > > in a position to win, and let circumstances > > > dictate the outcome" > > > -Richard Petty > > > http://CArndt.tripod.com > > > > Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it > > > > possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and > a > > > > number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's > > > > really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza > > > > then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on > the > > > > 15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then > you > > > > let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car > > > > snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a > > > > great game...

It's a setup issue. When a car is setup to turn better one way than the other it will have a tendency to lock one tire before the others. Look at the camber and shock settings. Problem is then it won't turn as good of laps. Find a happy medium. Sounds like you can modulate the pedal just fine. JM

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> Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it > possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and a > number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's > really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza > then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on the > 15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then you > let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car > snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a > great game...

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>> Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it >> possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and a >> number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's >> really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza >> then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on the >> 15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then you >> let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car >> snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a >> great game...

Another idea is to tamper with the rebound & bump settings, I've managed to run several road courses with assymetric setup in this dept, with success (to my own level anyway!) This goes for both front & rear (typical exit of final turn at Kyalami where inside rear wants to break loose all the time!) Also, for more stable braking, try more clutches on the diff. Be prepared for some more push freewheeling, and more bite on the throttle. Matt

Use a joystick ;o). Your direction corrections will be more vivid and it seems as if this lowers the grip of the front wheels in GPL quite a lot... If I'm right about this then you will be allowed to have a more radical setup when using a joystick... I'm not sure it's true though, but I've noticed that I can take corners with more ease with a wheel if I have a low steering ratio (1:10 or 10:1, dont remember which order in GPL) and steer a lot (work the wheel) when going into corners. It seems as if it's possible to get understeer by working the wheel... Remember that Papyrus used joysticks when they developed GPL... I dont know how this have affected the physics model... /Chrille, doesn't use a joystick, cause of the realism factor...

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>Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it >possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and a >number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's >really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza >then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on the >15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then you >let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car >snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a >great game...