To GPL server owners

Tonight was a sad night. On VROC it was as hard if not harder to find a traditional road course F1 race than the days before dedicated servers :( The reason for this were that nearly all the servers were running either empty Oval races or F2 races. Most of the night only 1/9 or even 0/9 of the good servers were running these races. When a F1 race at an original circuit did appear, depsite appaling pings it filled up in just 2 minutes and there were many more trying to join. I understand the e***ment for the new ovals and the F2 crazy, put please don't let these races be at the expense of the traditional races that are the backbone of online GPL. I really appreciate the efforts of those who set up dedicated servers for us all to join, but please I ask that at least a good proportion of these remain F1 races at original circuits :) thanks again for providing us with these fantastic servers to race on Marc

Oops .. I mean that only 1/9 or 0/9 were running F1 races at original circuits ;) Marc

Although I was trying to get you to run an oval with us Marc I must say that in general I agree with you 100%. At this moment 6 out of 10 races are f2 which I don't care for. I find it quite unbelievable that f3's at a superspeedway are so popular. But like all things in life it is "to each his own". So for now we must persevere regardless of the situation. Don't worry, GPL will maintain it's glory. Well, back to VROC, Michigan is a blast. JM

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> Tonight was a sad night. On VROC it was as hard if not harder to find a > traditional road course F1 race than the days before dedicated servers :( > The reason for this were that nearly all the servers were running either > empty Oval races or F2 races. > Most of the night only 1/9 or even 0/9 of the good servers were running > these races. When a F1 race at an original circuit did appear, depsite > appaling pings it filled up in just 2 minutes and there were many more > trying to join. > I understand the e***ment for the new ovals and the F2 crazy, put please > don't let these races be at the expense of the traditional races that are > the backbone of online GPL. > I really appreciate the efforts of those who set up dedicated servers for us > all to join, but please I ask that at least a good proportion of these > remain F1 races at original circuits :) > thanks again for providing us with these fantastic servers to race on > Marc

maybe that's why our GGPLC-server is so crowded, especially at the glen ... and I agree with you 100%: more F1 races on the "traditional" tracks ... and I'd love to see the servers running pro races ... Lio

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>Although I was trying to get you to run an oval with us Marc I must say that in >general I agree with you 100%. At this moment 6 out of 10 races are f2 which I >don't care for. I find it quite unbelievable that f3's at a superspeedway are >so popular. But like all things in life it is "to each his own". So for now we >must persevere regardless of the situation. Don't worry, GPL will maintain it's >glory. Well, back to VROC, Michigan is a blast. >JM

I don't understand what the problem is. The F2 and F3 races are for the guys who like it. There is apparently a need for f2f3 hosts. The VROC F2 club, has about 100 members, and there are quite a few leagues out there for f2f3 drivers. Most of the guys aren't interested in F1 Maybe coz lots of newbies wanna jump right into the F1, with carnage as result? Or maybe they just don't like the attitude of the 'pro' F1 drivers... There are more than enough F1 hosts, there aren't any less since the ovals arrived too! GPL online racing is alive, especially since the arrival of F2F3 and oval servers. Yesterday (26th) there where 90+ drivers on VROC. I agree on one thing though: Michigan is a blast; be it in F1, F2 or F3 ! RH "Like...can't we just...like..get along?"

This isn't the 1st time we went through this. Remember when the beta from David Noonan came out. Just about every race was a oval for the 1st few weeks. Then it started to decrease. After a month or so, you had to look high and low for any oval races. Things will settle down. But as for F2 racing. You better learn to live with it, because it's here to stay. Great racing !! Joel Willstein

Good reply..agree with you 100%. F2 's and F3's are here to stay because people like them. Robert

>But like all things in life it is "to each his own". At least we all agree on one thing, GPL! JM

First of all: We should appreciate the diversity of the GPL community. This makes it way more interesting and better in terms of longevity. Then: F1 is pointless, unless you race with the same people every time, and everybody fully understand how to behave on track. A lot of people don't, causing carnage and pileups. The F1 cars are so difficult to drive with discipline. You can't do as much damage in a F2 or particularly F3 car. And the F2 and F3 communities seem to be more tightly knit groups of people, knowing each other, knowing the way of driving etc... I think we'll see more and more 'regulated' races, with password (and the same bunch of racers every time) and excluded car classes because that is how you get close, exciting and fast racing. If it is called F1, F2 or F3, that doesn't matter, the point is that a regulated race will contain guaranteed good racing action, the public races will be pestered by people who cannot control their cars... I am not against ovals, I think it just adds to the diversity of the game. Not that I will race a lot on ovals, far from it. I like them from an ideal perspective... :-) ---Asgeir---

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> Tonight was a sad night. On VROC it was as hard if not harder to find a > traditional road course F1 race than the days before dedicated servers :( > The reason for this were that nearly all the servers were running either > empty Oval races or F2 races. > Most of the night only 1/9 or even 0/9 of the good servers were running > these races. When a F1 race at an original circuit did appear, depsite > appaling pings it filled up in just 2 minutes and there were many more > trying to join. > I understand the e***ment for the new ovals and the F2 crazy, put please > don't let these races be at the expense of the traditional races that are > the backbone of online GPL. > I really appreciate the efforts of those who set up dedicated servers for us > all to join, but please I ask that at least a good proportion of these > remain F1 races at original circuits :) > thanks again for providing us with these fantastic servers to race on > Marc

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>First of all: We should appreciate the diversity of the GPL community. This >makes it way more interesting and better in terms of longevity. >Then: F1 is pointless, unless you race with the same people every time, and >everybody fully understand how to behave on track. A lot of people don't, >causing carnage and pileups. The F1 cars are so difficult to drive with >discipline. You can't do as much damage in a F2 or particularly F3 car. >And the F2 and F3 communities seem to be more tightly knit groups of people, >knowing each other, knowing the way of driving etc... >I think we'll see more and more 'regulated' races, with password (and the >same >bunch of racers every time) and excluded car classes because that is how you >get >close, exciting and fast racing. >If it is called F1, F2 or F3, that doesn't matter, the point is that a >regulated >race will contain guaranteed good racing action, the public races will be >pestered by people who cannot control their cars... >I am not against ovals, I think it just adds to the diversity of the game. >Not >that I will race a lot on ovals, far from it. I like them from an ideal >perspective... :-) >---Asgeir---

I'm willing to listen to the racers on what they want. My server(s) will be back up after the 1st(the university is closed now). I'll try to have a decent mix of tracks and skill levels. Feel free to e-mail me with your opinions/gripes about the servers. Just be NICE about it. :-) Maybe I'll set one up for just ovals, and the other for pro races on the F1 tracks... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> But like all things in life it is "to each his own". > >JM > I don't understand what the problem is. > RH > "Like...can't we just...like..get along?" You missed one line in my post..... JM