Is anyone else driving with a joystick?

I have a nice MS Sidewinder FF Pro I use to race (Nascar Legends).. just curious how many other joystick drivers there are out there. Sure, an ideal world involves getting a wheel, but I fly flight simes (Warbirds) more than I drive so a stick makes more sense. Any benefit to driving with the keyboard over the joystick? Just curious. David

Some of the fastest guys in the world use joysticks. JM

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> I have a nice MS Sidewinder FF Pro I use to race (Nascar Legends).. > just curious how many other joystick drivers there are out there. > Sure, an ideal world involves getting a wheel, but I fly flight simes > (Warbirds) more than I drive so a stick makes more sense. Any benefit > to driving with the keyboard over the joystick? > Just curious. > David

it is my opinion that joystick racing is easier than with a wheel. I have used both for extended periods of time, and the joystick requires less dexterity, and less accuracy. The wheel- requires 4 coordinated limbs to use, the joystick- only 2. less motion is required from the stick to manipulate input values. A wheel is more fun, but I'm allways faster with my MS SW PP. Rik Anthrax - - "trust the government?? what are you, some kind of moron?"

Some of the fastest guys in the world use joysticks. JM Thats because with the right joystick its easier to turn fast laps. Rik Anthrax - - "trust the government?? what are you, some kind of moron?"

Nope, no benifit to using a keyboard over a Joystick/wheel, unless your racing arcade games, then I prefer the keyboard or a gamepad. There are, of course, people out there that are very fast using the keyboard.

>>Any benefit >> to driving with the keyboard over the joystick? Health could be one reason. I used a joystick I would drive just before going to bed and I had this mild problem in my little finger I did not put the problem and the joystick together at first. After I did a full length race at Monaco(one and only full distancer) the old finger was very bad and it has not been the same since though it has gotten better than it was It is kind of like 'carrpel tunnel' the finger does not move when you try to move it then it just snaps into place, if I make a***then try to open my fingers all the fingers except my little one move normal but it just shoots out after a second or so. It is no big deal and I have not even bothered seeing a doctor but it was enough to stop me using the jostick but after failing terribly with the keyboard I have gone with a wheel this christmas

Just ask Woelfgang Woeger! He's the one of worlds fastest GPL'ers using a stick. (Maybe he isn't a good reference as he isn't from this planet... - or is he?) I think you can be faster but it is a lot harder to be consistent because a joystick is very exhausting on the wrists after a while. I've tried it a while ago when my T2 broke down. It works, but I prefer a wheel. Sure you can react faster with a joystick but I don't think you be as precise as with a wheel.

Know what you mean about chopping and changing. I struggled with a wheel until it broke and the damned thing required my com2 port so if I wanted to go online I had to swap it over with my modem. Also with so little room I couldn't get the whole thing comfortably setup. I've been using a joystick for sims now for about 6 months - due to those limitations of space - and have no problems being competitive. I have the joystick stuck to a piece of plate glass that I have on my lap. I mainly play GPL, but just got N3 as a chrissy pressy so have been playing that a bit in the last few days, though I have a long way to go with it before I start getting serious. With GPL I can race and win online and can beat the AI at Grand Prix level when I keep it on the track for the full race, though this can be *** for me poor old knees. As long as the joystick is giving you smooth feedback then you should be fine. -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

=============================================================================================== Rik, I also have a MS SW PP and was hoping that you could tell me how you have yours set up? I would like to shift up and down using the base buttons A and B is this possible? I have not been able to do this. My assignments are: Acceleration=Stick Forward Reverse=Stick Backwords Brakes=Button #1 Shift Up=Button #4 Shift Down=Button #3 Turn Left=Stick Left Turn Right=Stick Right Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ---Jerry--- ============================================================================================

Weird... Why do you brake with a button instead of using an axis? What game is it for Gpl? I'm sure you will get better results switching your reverse with your brake. ============================================================================ ================

===================================================================================== Sorry forgot to mention it is Nascar 3. Maybe but that is why I was asking for help. Thanks I will try that. Not sure of how to do that . Is this possible? Thanks for the reply---Jerry--- ====================================================================================

i use the slider forward to acelerate, and the stick back to brake, fire1&2 for shifting, stick L&R for turning. Rik Anthrax - - "trust the government?? what are you, some kind of moron?"

======================================================================== Rik, Thanks for the info works better now. ---Jerry-- ====================================================================