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If you are such a moron that you can't back up without hitting something behind you unless you have a "reverse sensor", you probably shouldn't be driving at all. ~daxe

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>I have the greatest choice of car reverse sensors which help driver >during reversing of the car . >The simplest of such devices warn the driver by means of pulsing sound >alarm about any obstacle . More comfortable have besides sound warning >a distance measure and even inform which part of the car (left or >right ) can strike against the post of the traffic signs or rubbish >container. >The devices are switched on automatically after putting the car in >reverse mode. >Besides I deal with trading in cheap and reliable Eurosec auto >alarms. >I am interested in contacts with companies trading in car accessories >and dealing with installations of electronic equipment. >The above mentioned equipment you will find in Internet : >www.eurosec.com.pl

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Not flaming you Daxe, but in my neighborhood, when I was young, a delivery van backed over a child who had wandered behind it. It was devestating to all, the family, the driver and the neighborhood. You know the old saying , if it saves one life.... don [|]-(_)-[|] > If you are such a moron that you can't back up without hitting something

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>behind you unless you have a "reverse sensor", you probably shouldn't be >driving at all. >~daxe >>I have the greatest choice of car reverse sensors which help driver >>during reversing of the car . >>The simplest of such devices warn the driver by means of pulsing sound >>alarm about any obstacle . More comfortable have besides sound warning >>a distance measure and even inform which part of the car (left or >>right ) can strike against the post of the traffic signs or rubbish >>container. >>The devices are switched on automatically after putting the car in >>reverse mode. >>Besides I deal with trading in cheap and reliable Eurosec auto >>alarms. >>I am interested in contacts with companies trading in car accessories >>and dealing with installations of electronic equipment. >>The above mentioned equipment you will find in Internet : >>www.eurosec.com.pl > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News

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I have the greatest choice of car reverse sensors which help driver during reversing of the car . The simplest of such devices warn the driver by means of pulsing sound alarm about any obstacle . More comfortable have besides sound warning a distance measure and even inform which part of the car (left or right ) can strike against the post of the traffic signs or rubbish container. The devices are switched on automatically after putting the car in reverse mode. Besides I deal with trading in cheap and reliable Eurosec auto alarms. I am interested in contacts with companies trading in car accessories and dealing with installations of electronic equipment. The above mentioned equipment you will find in Internet : www.eurosec.com.pl

Wassamatta, no mirrors? Sounds great but Plymouth/Dodge is offering a system like that on the 2000 yr minivans. I wish you the best however. JM

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> I have the greatest choice of car reverse sensors which help driver > during reversing of the car . > The simplest of such devices warn the driver by means of pulsing sound > alarm about any obstacle . More comfortable have besides sound warning > a distance measure and even inform which part of the car (left or > right ) can strike against the post of the traffic signs or rubbish > container. > The devices are switched on automatically after putting the car in > reverse mode. > Besides I deal with trading in cheap and reliable Eurosec auto > alarms. > I am interested in contacts with companies trading in car accessories > and dealing with installations of electronic equipment. > The above mentioned equipment you will find in Internet : > www.eurosec.com.pl

How about a toddler on a tricycle, you ignorant bombastic boofhead?

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> If you are such a moron that you can't back up without hitting something > behind you unless you have a "reverse sensor", you probably shouldn't be > driving at all. > ~daxe > >I have the greatest choice of car reverse sensors which help driver > >during reversing of the car . > >The simplest of such devices warn the driver by means of pulsing sound > >alarm about any obstacle . More comfortable have besides sound warning > >a distance measure and even inform which part of the car (left or > >right ) can strike against the post of the traffic signs or rubbish > >container. > >The devices are switched on automatically after putting the car in > >reverse mode. > >Besides I deal with trading in cheap and reliable Eurosec auto > >alarms. > >I am interested in contacts with companies trading in car accessories > >and dealing with installations of electronic equipment. > >The above mentioned equipment you will find in Internet : > >www.eurosec.com.pl > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

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I hate dictatorial topics like these. Especially if the message itself is an adverti***t. I hate you. Merry Christmas. Andre

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>I have the greatest choice of car reverse sensors which help driver >during reversing of the car . >The simplest of such devices warn the driver by means of pulsing sound >alarm about any obstacle . More comfortable have besides sound warning >a distance measure and even inform which part of the car (left or >right ) can strike against the post of the traffic signs or rubbish >container. >The devices are switched on automatically after putting the car in >reverse mode. >Besides I deal with trading in cheap and reliable Eurosec auto >alarms. >I am interested in contacts with companies trading in car accessories >and dealing with installations of electronic equipment. >The above mentioned equipment you will find in Internet : >www.eurosec.com.pl

>How about a toddler on a tricycle, you ignorant bombastic boofhead? If a child suddenly runs(or rides) behind your vehicle, would you really have time to react even IF you had a warning system? That's why you make sure no kids are near you when you DO back up... It's called Driving 101. No need to get hostile. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> If you are such a moron that you can't back up without hitting something >behind you unless you have a "reverse sensor", you probably shouldn't be >driving at all. >~daxe I'm curious at how much this 'Wonder System' is gonna cost, but I don't even want to waste the time to go to his web site. I can back up just FINE.... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>How about a toddler on a tricycle, you ignorant bombastic boofhead? >> If you are such a moron that you can't back up without hitting something >> behind you unless you have a "reverse sensor", you probably shouldn't be >> driving at all. >> ~daxe I have a toddler. Before I even put the car in gear I make darn sure that she isn't anywhere near it and neither are my dogs. I drive for a living. I may be biased, but I think people who accept the responsibility inherent in driving a car should take at least that much care to monitor their surroundings without electronic assistance. ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

I wonder what happens when the user gets so used to having his vehicle tell him when its "safe" to back up that he stops looking back. Then, one day the electronic system fails to warn him and he runs over a kid. Who gets sued? If you use the rear-view mirror, you never need to worry about a system failure. And if your vehicle has a huge blind spot in the back (i.e. a van or other oversized road behemoth) , you have to ask, "who was the rocket scientist that BOUGHT a vehicle with a huge blind spot in the rear?" Bryan

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> >How about a toddler on a tricycle, you ignorant bombastic boofhead? > >> If you are such a moron that you can't back up without hitting > something > >> behind you unless you have a "reverse sensor", you probably shouldn't be > >> driving at all. > >> ~daxe > I have a toddler. Before I even put the car in gear I make darn sure that > she isn't anywhere near it and neither are my dogs. I drive for a living. > I may be biased, but I think people who accept the responsibility inherent > in driving a car should take at least that much care to monitor their > surroundings without electronic assistance. > ~daxe > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

>Not flaming you Daxe, but in my neighborhood, when I was young, a delivery >van backed over a child who had wandered behind it. It was devestating to >all, the family, the driver and the neighborhood. You know the old saying , >if it saves one life.... When I was growing up, a little kid from a family we socialized with was run over in the road on my street on his bike. It had a similar effect. So, using your logic, we should all have electronic devices installed that alert us when something is in FRONT of our cars, too, right? Or perhaps we should call that what it was: deadly inattention and lack of control on the part of the driver resulting in a tragic accident. For the 'saves one life' maxim, I don't agree with that concept. It's a bit like manadatory airbags (also known as PASSIVE restraints) in cars; they have saved plenty of lives (of people who were too stupid to buckle up) but they have also severely injured and killed people, too. What if the electronic 'reverse sensor' caused you to reflexively turn your steering wheel in a parking lot while backing up because it detected a burger wrapper blowing across the parking lot behind your car? Since you were so good in reacting to the alarm and swinging your car around the moving burger wrapper, the front of your car went wide, crushing the little kid NEXT TO your car against the car next to you in the parking lot. Do we need side sensors, too? I'm sorry. I have sensors already. They are called eyes, ears, etc. Driving a car requires their constant and competent use. Electronic sensors have notoriously poor judgement such that I really wouldn't trust one in a situation as important as driving. IMHO we don't need anything that encourages people to be LESS attentive while they are operating a motor vehicle. ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

>Daxe, you're a sensible, reasonable person. How the heck did you get in >r.a.s?<g> HEy!!! Thems's fightin' words, podner! But you're right, I should be more cautious. I can't be ruining my reputation as a bombastic malcontent that picks on spelling and grammar errors and contributes nothing of value. :o) ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

>Me? Hostile? >Jesus H. Christ....what about the person who called the poster a "moron"? That was me and I didn't call the person a moron, I called a hypothetical person who would need the doodad this fellow is spamming us with a moron. Unless the warning is a false alarm, causing you to do something you *didn't* plan to do, which may be dangerous to people and things around your car. I have an idea! Lets get a little device that we can strap on toddlers that makes a loud, horrible noise when they get near a car? Because I spent most of the last three days around my relatives and my wife's even more unbearable family. That's enough to build up the frustration and anxiety in the most patient of people (which I am not, either) ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

>I gotta agree with Daxe on this issue. People are agreeing with me. I must be losing my touch. :-o ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

No, my vehicles come with satisfactory mirrors. There is no need to take apart the bathroom. You want to hear a funny story? Last year, I was considering buying an SUV. I really liked the Chevy 2-door S-10 Blazer. but, when I drove it, I discovered that it has blind spots that are just too large for me to feel safe with. So, despite all the pluses of the vehicle, I didn't buy it because I didn't feel safe backing it up. No need for an electronic gadget sold by some internet spam-meister. Just good common sense and driving skill. Bryan

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> Exactly what size rear vision mirror do you have attached to your vehicle, Bryan? Take > the bathroom apart, did you? > > I wonder what happens when the user gets so used to having his vehicle tell him > > when its "safe" to back up that he stops looking back. Then, one day the electronic > > system fails to warn him and he runs over a kid. Who gets sued? > > If you use the rear-view mirror, you never need to worry about a system failure. > > And if your vehicle has a huge blind spot in the back (i.e. a van or other oversized > > road behemoth) , you have to ask, "who was the rocket scientist that BOUGHT a > > vehicle with a huge blind spot in the rear?" > > Bryan > > > >How about a toddler on a tricycle, you ignorant bombastic boofhead? > > > >> If you are such a moron that you can't back up without hitting > > > something > > > >> behind you unless you have a "reverse sensor", you probably shouldn't be > > > >> driving at all. > > > >> ~daxe > > > I have a toddler. Before I even put the car in gear I make darn sure that > > > she isn't anywhere near it and neither are my dogs. I drive for a living. > > > I may be biased, but I think people who accept the responsibility inherent > > > in driving a car should take at least that much care to monitor their > > > surroundings without electronic assistance. > > > ~daxe > > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > > > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==----- > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

> I discovered that it has >blind spots that are just too large for me to feel safe with. So, despite all the pluses of >the vehicle, I didn't buy it because I didn't feel safe backing it up. > No need for an electronic gadget sold by some internet spam-meister. Just good common >sense and driving skill. Another sensible person. This place is going to hell in a handbasket. We're doomed, doomed I tell you! OK. I'll shut up now. ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

This has to be the longest damn thread ever!!!

Me? Hostile? Jesus H. Christ....what about the person who called the poster a "moron"? If a child moves behind my vehicle, sonny, I don't give a tuppenny damn whether I've checked the rear, sides, top and underneath before climbing into the cab. Any warning is beneficial. What is pissing you people off is the fact that the guy posted some spam here. So what?

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> >How about a toddler on a tricycle, you ignorant bombastic boofhead? > If a child suddenly runs(or rides) behind your vehicle, would you really have > time to react even IF you had a warning system? > That's why you make sure no kids are near you when you DO back up... It's > called Driving 101. No need to get hostile. > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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Okay Darth....don't like electronic assistance, huh? Then remove the speedo, the fuel, oil and temperature gauges/lights from your vehicle. Oh...whilst you're at it....got a radar detector? Take that out as well. Now.....care to enlighten me as to just _how_ you intend to drive safely?

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> >How about a toddler on a tricycle, you ignorant bombastic boofhead? > >> If you are such a moron that you can't back up without hitting > something > >> behind you unless you have a "reverse sensor", you probably shouldn't be > >> driving at all. > >> ~daxe > I have a toddler. Before I even put the car in gear I make darn sure that > she isn't anywhere near it and neither are my dogs. I drive for a living. > I may be biased, but I think people who accept the responsibility inherent > in driving a car should take at least that much care to monitor their > surroundings without electronic assistance. > ~daxe > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

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Exactly what size rear vision mirror do you have attached to your vehicle, Bryan? Take the bathroom apart, did you?

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> I wonder what happens when the user gets so used to having his vehicle tell him > when its "safe" to back up that he stops looking back. Then, one day the electronic > system fails to warn him and he runs over a kid. Who gets sued? > If you use the rear-view mirror, you never need to worry about a system failure. > And if your vehicle has a huge blind spot in the back (i.e. a van or other oversized > road behemoth) , you have to ask, "who was the rocket scientist that BOUGHT a > vehicle with a huge blind spot in the rear?" > Bryan > > >How about a toddler on a tricycle, you ignorant bombastic boofhead? > > >> If you are such a moron that you can't back up without hitting > > something > > >> behind you unless you have a "reverse sensor", you probably shouldn't be > > >> driving at all. > > >> ~daxe > > I have a toddler. Before I even put the car in gear I make darn sure that > > she isn't anywhere near it and neither are my dogs. I drive for a living. > > I may be biased, but I think people who accept the responsibility inherent > > in driving a car should take at least that much care to monitor their > > surroundings without electronic assistance. > > ~daxe > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

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On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:27:25 +1100, Leaky_Valve >Okay Darth....don't like electronic assistance, huh? Then remove the speedo, the >fuel, oil and temperature gauges/lights from your vehicle. Oh...whilst you're at >it....got a radar detector? Take that out as well. >Now.....care to enlighten me as to just _how_ you intend to drive safely? Leaky... You're confusing instrumentation with safety. None of the items you've listed are needed to drive safely. I gotta agree with Daxe on this issue. Trips

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>I have a toddler. Before I even put the car in gear I make darn sure that >she isn't anywhere near it and neither are my dogs. I drive for a living. >I may be biased, but I think people who accept the responsibility inherent >in driving a car should take at least that much care to monitor their >surroundings without electronic assistance. >~daxe

Daxe, you're a sensible, reasonable person. How the heck did you get in r.a.s?<g> -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>Okay Darth....don't like electronic assistance, huh? Then remove the speedo, >the >fuel, oil and temperature gauges/lights from your vehicle. Oh...whilst >you're at >it....got a radar detector? Take that out as well. >Now.....care to enlighten me as to just _how_ you intend to drive safely?

Darth? I don't get it... Actually, you can operate a vehicle quite well without those things you mentioned. They contribute to *convenience*, not safety. You're not going to suddenly become a road hazard because your fuel light or speedometer doesn't work... Haven't you ever had a flaky gauge on your car before? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, of course I am.....how silly of me. And there I was thinking that driving below the posted speed limit, most particularly in an urban environment, had something to do with "safety". Tsk tsk.....I must be more precise in future. > Leaky... You're confusing instrumentation with safety. None of the > items you've listed are needed to drive safely. -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

Ooops! It's an attack of the Pedants!

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> That was me and I didn't call the person a moron, I called a hypothetical > person who would need the doodad this fellow is spamming us with a moron. > >What is pissing you people off is the fact that the guy posted some spam > here. > >So what? > Because I spent most of the last three days around my relatives and my > wife's even more unbearable family. That's enough to build up the > frustration and anxiety in the most patient of people (which I am not, > either)

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An "SUV"? That yet another acronym for one of those urban *** vehicles that you folk who had deprived childhoods just _have_ to own? > No, my vehicles come with satisfactory mirrors. There is no need to take apart the > bathroom. You want to hear a funny story? Last year, I was considering buying an SUV. -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

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>I have an idea! Lets get a little device that we can strap on toddlers that >makes a loud, horrible noise when they get near a car? Now we're talking sense! How about everyone is required by law to get "Invisible Fence", the deal designed for dogs which shocks them if they leave the yard. Wandering kids would learn quickly that staying on the green stuff doesn't hurt, stepping off the green stuff hurts. Don McCorkle

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 23:48:12 +1100, Leaky_Valve >Oh, of course I am.....how silly of me. And there I was thinking that driving below >the posted speed limit, most particularly in an urban environment, had something to do >with "safety". Tsk tsk.....I must be more precise in future. I've seen posted speed limits that seemed ridiculously high for certain conditions, but hey, you just keep staring at that speedo and you'll be just fine. *plonk* Trips

>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Oh, of course I am.....how silly of me. And there I was thinking that driving below >the posted speed limit, most particularly in an urban environment, had something to do >with "safety". Tsk tsk.....I must be more precise in future. Driving *below* the posted speed limit isn't usually necessary unless the weather conditions warrant it. Quite frankly, driving *at* the posted speed limit is only usually warranted when there's someone around to hand you a ticket for exceeding it. Likewise, a good driver can estimate his or her speed pretty accurately without a speedometer. It's another of those basic driving skills that you can't seem to grasp. ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

>Ooops! It's an attack of the Pedants! You accused me of something I didn't do. I pointed that out. I guess someone who has disdain for accuracy probably can't be expected to drive a car accurately, either, and would need electronic assistance to do so. This was an attempt at humor on my part, obviously not a very good one. ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

>An "SUV"? That yet another acronym for one of those urban *** vehicles that you folk who >had deprived childhoods just _have_ to own? What are some of the other acronyms for such a vehicle? ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

>Nope. >> Haven't you ever had a flaky gauge on your car before? But he *does* have a Leaky Valve. ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

Apparently I did not "just_have_to own" one since I passed on it (as I said in my post). But, even if I had bought it, I'd hardly call a 2 door S-10 Blazer an urban assualt vehicle since it only weighs in at around 3500 lbs. For a person that knows so little about American cars, I'm wondering why you chose automotive add-on junk as your product to spam the world with? Shouldn't you be selling the "100 year Stay-Sharp Kitchen Knife" or some other very useful item? Bryan

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> An "SUV"? That yet another acronym for one of those urban *** vehicles that you folk who > had deprived childhoods just _have_ to own? > > No, my vehicles come with satisfactory mirrors. There is no need to take apart the > > bathroom. You want to hear a funny story? Last year, I was considering buying an SUV. > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

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>Me? Hostile? >Jesus H. Christ....what about the person who called the poster a "moron"? >If a child moves behind my vehicle, sonny, I don't give a tuppenny damn >whether >I've checked the rear, sides, top and underneath before climbing into the >cab. >Any warning is beneficial. >What is pissing you people off is the fact that the guy posted some spam >here. >So what?

Sonny?!? You better guess again... He didn't CALL the poster a moron. He said, 'If some moron needs this...yadda,yadda" And hey, I'm not pissed at the spam, I just thought it would be a waste of money. You want to throw your money away on questionable 'enhancements', you go right ahead... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>An "SUV"? That yet another acronym for one of those urban *** vehicles >that you folk who >had deprived childhoods just _have_ to own? An urban *** vehicle? Are you *that* scared of SUV's? Geez, it's not an M1 Abrams.... -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> Apparently I did not "just_have_to own" one since I passed on it (as I >said in my post). But, >even if I had bought it, I'd hardly call a 2 door S-10 Blazer an urban >assualt vehicle since it >only weighs in at around 3500 lbs. For a person that knows so little about >American cars, I'm >wondering why you chose automotive add-on junk as your product to spam the >world with? Shouldn't >you be selling the "100 year Stay-Sharp Kitchen Knife" or some other very >useful item? > Bryan

Although I'm not one of Leaky Valve's fans, I don't think he's the one who STARTED all this ***with a spam post... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Try selling _that_ line to any of the Road Safety authoritories world-wide, my friend!

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> It's another of those basic > driving skills that you can't seem to grasp. > ~daxe > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

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I did say "particularly in urban conditions", dork.

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> On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 23:48:12 +1100, Leaky_Valve > >Oh, of course I am.....how silly of me. And there I was thinking that driving below > >the posted speed limit, most particularly in an urban environment, had something to do > >with "safety". Tsk tsk.....I must be more precise in future. > I've seen posted speed limits that seemed ridiculously high for > certain conditions, but hey, you just keep staring at that speedo and > you'll be just fine. > *plonk* > Trips

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That's for sure.

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> >Nope. > >> Haven't you ever had a flaky gauge on your car before? > But he *does* have a Leaky Valve. > ~daxe > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

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Hey, ***er. Check the thread! It wasn't _me_ who posted the original announcement!

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> Apparently I did not "just_have_to own" one since I passed on it (as I said in my post). But, > even if I had bought it, I'd hardly call a 2 door S-10 Blazer an urban assualt vehicle since it > only weighs in at around 3500 lbs. For a person that knows so little about American cars, I'm > wondering why you chose automotive add-on junk as your product to spam the world with? Shouldn't > you be selling the "100 year Stay-Sharp Kitchen Knife" or some other very useful item? > Bryan > > An "SUV"? That yet another acronym for one of those urban *** vehicles that you folk who > > had deprived childhoods just _have_ to own? > > > No, my vehicles come with satisfactory mirrors. There is no need to take apart the > > > bathroom. You want to hear a funny story? Last year, I was considering buying an SUV. > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

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Danke. > You want to throw your money away on questionable > 'enhancements', you go right ahead... -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

To the people in the family sedan being hit, it _is_ an Abrams.

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> >An "SUV"? That yet another acronym for one of those urban *** vehicles > >that you folk who > >had deprived childhoods just _have_ to own? > An urban *** vehicle? Are you *that* scared of SUV's? Geez, it's not an > M1 Abrams.... > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> Try selling _that_ line to any of the Road Safety authoritories world-wide, my > friend! Trust me. Speed limits have a lot less to do with safety than they do with filling the coffers of the local community. Almost a form of Organized Crime. <g> -- //Chuck Kandler #70 //ChuckK or KS70 on Won.net //K&S Racing //http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 //The box said "Windows 0x5f or better", so I installed LINUX!

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>Hey, ***er. Check the thread! It wasn't _me_ who posted the original >announcement! >> Apparently I did not "just_have_to own" one since I passed on it (as I >said in my post). But, >> even if I had bought it, I'd hardly call a 2 door S-10 Blazer an urban >assualt vehicle since it >> only weighs in at around 3500 lbs. For a person that knows so little about >American cars, I'm >> wondering why you chose automotive add-on junk as your product to spam the >world with? Shouldn't >> you be selling the "100 year Stay-Sharp Kitchen Knife" or some other very >useful item?

Hmm. Why do you seem to be the only one resorting to name-calling in this 'discussion'...? Everyone else has managed to avoid such childish behavior. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Must be using the OpenGL Patch for GPL, known to cause mirror errors! I have yet to find children wandering around in GPL though . . . SLG (BTW: The would be a sarcastic post!) (The real solution is to remove reverse from all vehicles!)

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>Wassamatta, no mirrors? >Sounds great but Plymouth/Dodge is offering a system like that on the 2000 >yr minivans. >I wish you the best however. >JM >> I have the greatest choice of car reverse sensors which help driver >> during reversing of the car . >> The simplest of such devices warn the driver by means of pulsing sound >> alarm about any obstacle . More comfortable have besides sound warning >> a distance measure and even inform which part of the car (left or >> right ) can strike against the post of the traffic signs or rubbish >> container. >> The devices are switched on automatically after putting the car in >> reverse mode. >> Besides I deal with trading in cheap and reliable Eurosec auto >> alarms. >> I am interested in contacts with companies trading in car accessories >> and dealing with installations of electronic equipment. >> The above mentioned equipment you will find in Internet : >> www.eurosec.com.pl

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)

>Must be using the OpenGL Patch for GPL, known to cause mirror errors! >I have yet to find children wandering around in GPL though . . . >SLG >(BTW: The would be a sarcastic post!) >(The real solution is to remove reverse from all vehicles!) I advocate having a spotter positioned on the roof of the vehicle, communicating with the driver through a radio headset. ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

You aren't using the same email address as the original spammer, but you sure are strongly in his corner. I have two email addresses. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Bryan

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> Hey, ***er. Check the thread! It wasn't _me_ who posted the original announcement! > > Apparently I did not "just_have_to own" one since I passed on it (as I said in my post). But, > > even if I had bought it, I'd hardly call a 2 door S-10 Blazer an urban assualt vehicle since it > > only weighs in at around 3500 lbs. For a person that knows so little about American cars, I'm > > wondering why you chose automotive add-on junk as your product to spam the world with? Shouldn't > > you be selling the "100 year Stay-Sharp Kitchen Knife" or some other very useful item? > > Bryan > > > An "SUV"? That yet another acronym for one of those urban *** vehicles that you folk who > > > had deprived childhoods just _have_ to own? > > > > No, my vehicles come with satisfactory mirrors. There is no need to take apart the > > > > bathroom. You want to hear a funny story? Last year, I was considering buying an SUV. > > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > > > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==----- > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

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> The recent post titled "GPL fans read this" went over 200 replies, I > stopped counting. > Yes it was me who started it. Funny thing is there were no negative > posts in response. > JM > > This has to be the longest damn thread ever!!!

What was that thread about? I saw the subject line and just figured it came from someone who had to vent. Then all the replies were from other venting back at the original post. so I never read any of them. So, What was that thread about? -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

The recent post titled "GPL fans read this" went over 200 replies, I stopped counting. Yes it was me who started it. Funny thing is there were no negative posts in response. JM

The 'READ THIS!' thread was a stupid adverti***t, but the 'GPL fans read this!' thread was a thank you thread to all the people that have worked and still work on GPL. Andre On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 23:38:46 -0500, Michael Barlow

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>> The recent post titled "GPL fans read this" went over 200 replies, I >> stopped counting. >> Yes it was me who started it. Funny thing is there were no negative >> posts in response. >> JM >> > This has to be the longest damn thread ever!!! > What was that thread about? I saw the subject line and just figured it >came from someone who had to vent. Then all the replies were from other >venting back at the original post. so I never read any of them. So, >What was that thread about? >-- >========================================= >Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? >========================================= >http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ >Racing online with the help of...... >Race Communications Association >Holodyne Engineering >Mystic Music >(have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

No bad idea, and give every car a +400bhp engine and rear wheel drive so we don't need a reverse to turn our car in narrow places... Now that will improve safety.

This must be the longest thread about a spam ever.

Au contraire, I remember a thread to do with the Ferrari bargeboards legality that went on for at least 200 articles and may have been much more. :-) -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.