Gran Turismo 2 thoughts

I'm sure some of you are going to say I'm posting in the wrong place... fine: for those of you thinking about buying GT2 for the Playstation.. my advice: rent it first!!! Rent it, play it... then see if you still like it. This game was obviously rushed out to meet the Christmas deadline.. WHICH SUCKS!!!! This game just doesn't seem as 'cleanly' made as the first one. There are just things that make you wonder .... WHY?!?! For instance: you start with 10,000 credits.. the only thing you can buy is a used Jap car... there are absolutely no other used car manufacturers available. (wow.. works great in Japan, but no where else) second... the game constantly wants to show off the damn replays... third... NO QUALIFYING!!! no matter what.. you have to start last place... what the hell is up with that?? fourth... you buy a car for 23,000 credits.. you add 15,000 credits worth of upgrades to it.. and you can only sell it for 3,000 credits or less????? WHAT A RIPOFF!!!! maybe that's the way cars sell in Japan?? so.. like I said, rent it first. If you never played the first one.. you will love this. But if you are looking for something better, just think of it as.. a movie sequel (it doesn't have the same actors, it doesn't have the same budget... but it's still the same movie)

In my opinion GT2 needs a way to turn up the difficulty in sim mode, also more cars in the endurance races would be great. Otherwise it is a great game and lives up to the hype. The experience of going through "The Corkscrew" is incredibly thrilling.

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> I'm sure some of you are going to say I'm posting in the wrong place... > fine: > for those of you thinking about buying GT2 for the Playstation.. my advice: > rent it first!!! > Rent it, play it... then see if you still like it. > This game was obviously rushed out to meet the Christmas deadline.. WHICH > SUCKS!!!! > This game just doesn't seem as 'cleanly' made as the first one. There are > just things that make you wonder .... WHY?!?! > For instance: you start with 10,000 credits.. the only thing you can buy is > a used Jap car... there are absolutely no other used car manufacturers > available. (wow.. works great in Japan, but no where else) > second... the game constantly wants to show off the damn replays... > third... NO QUALIFYING!!! no matter what.. you have to start last place... > what the hell is up with that?? > fourth... you buy a car for 23,000 credits.. you add 15,000 credits worth > of upgrades to it.. and you can only sell it for 3,000 credits or less????? > WHAT A RIPOFF!!!! maybe that's the way cars sell in Japan?? > so.. like I said, rent it first. If you never played the first one.. you > will love this. But if you are looking for something better, just think of > it as.. a movie sequel (it doesn't have the same actors, it doesn't have the > same budget... but it's still the same movie)

I tend to disagree a little. While it is obvious some things were missed and annoying features added (I hate the constant replays) it does seem like a much better game than the original, but mostly for reasons that could have been dealt with in an expansion pack. No physical damage, no drag racing, no love for any non-Japanese manufacturers all point obviously to little effort put into the US version. But I do like it better than the original, maybe just because Laguna Seca is so DAMN cool in a R-34 Skyline :-) Cheers, Eric Brighton You know what to do with the NOSPAM in the reply address "Have you hugged your Nissan today?"

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>I'm sure some of you are going to say I'm posting in the wrong place... >fine: >for those of you thinking about buying GT2 for the Playstation.. my advice: >rent it first!!! >Rent it, play it... then see if you still like it.

Always good advice. I agree with you, but I still enjoy it as is. Yes, an annoyance. Wasn't it like that in GT1? This is either my first or second biggest gripe. The other being the AI that makes each race a 6 vehicle pack race. I played the hell out of the first, and I'm playing the second more. Yes, it is more of the same, with some elements made worse. However, I like the tracks more. But the real reason to get this game is the outstanding selection of vehicles. Other than Ferrari, Lamborghini, and Porsche (which they sidestep by including Ruf), virtually every manufacturer is represented. Some meagerly (no C5 Vette), most comprehensively. Where else do you get to drive an S2000, GT40, 551 hp modified Porsche, '83 RX7, to an Opel Astra or VW Lupo? Just wish it had my dearly departed '84 Lude.

I know you can use Bleem! to run GT on a PC, but has anyone heard of any plans to market GT2 for the PC rather than just an arcade machine?

The closest you can get for the PC is Sports Car GT by Electronic Arts. I bought Bleem! but I haven't tried it yet for GT2.

Oh... another REALLY STUPID thing is that you don't get to see what cars you are racing BEFORE the race. Part of GT1 that I liked was that I knew what cars I was going to race so I could adjust my car settings for the competition. This game just really makes me mad. gee... i finally get to race an Opel but I can't qualify in races. You ever notice that out of all 500+ cars you can race... the Japanese cars seem to have the best sounding engines?? What needs to be changed for this game to be #1?? 1.) put qualifying back in.. along with knowing what cars you are racing against. 2.) fix the starting replays (you only see 5 cars... where's the 6th one??) 3.) the rest of the WORLD would like to buy something other than a used Japanese car 4.) why is there an entire CD for just arcade racing?!?! You can't please the entire audience.. so just please the ones you've already won over. The time wasted on the arcade part could of been spent on putting in Qualifying. 5.) there are some bad graphics in the game.. especially when looking in the rear view mirror... in the first GT, you could make out the front of the car behind you. In this 2nd version, some cars' front ends look horrible. 6.) Is Japan the only country that has new models? Why am I still racing a 96 Corvette? but I can race a Honda S2000 too??? 7.) Why does the 'map' screen take up only half of your screen.. and the other half is the credits???? Some of use don't have 52" tv screens. 8.) Horsepower limits??! I want to race my 400+ HP Camaro against all those under 100HP Jap Cars 9.) I want to buy a used car other than Japan. 10.) The manual doesn't explain some parts of the game. For instance... what does Convert Data do??? What makes this game better than the first one?? 1.) I like that you can change wheels for your car 2.) There are ALOT of cars to choose from 3.) Laguna Seca!! 4.) Rally racing!! 5.) individual races for certain cars 6.) an AWESOME!! intro on the arcade CD!!! 7.) GREAT songs!!!! (I wonder what songs the Japanese version has on it?) 8.) still the same great racing as the first one. 9.) The AI cars seem to be more aggressive, but not as good as drivers as the first one. They really smack those walls in turns HARD!!!! So.... the question I want is... how does the Jap version compare to the US version???

Me too. Some of us are easily pleased, aren't we. None of the wheels you can buy have spiral pattern spokes, though. Some of the other new tracks are nice, and the extra Enduros is a nice idea. Perhaps not very well executed, though. Tahiti is really bad, though. You suffer no apparent penalty for going off the asphalt onto the dirt shoulder or even the grass. And the grass is not that high-quality authentic Grand Valley strain. Adrian.