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Name on the side of car in GPL?

22 posts by 14 people · 23 Dec 1999 - 28 Dec 1999

Adding your name to your GPL car and braking advice

David Montani asked how to put his name on his GPL car. Others explained extracting the car's MIP files with WinMip and editing the bitmaps in Paint Shop Pro. The thread turned into braking advice for breaking 1:30 at Monza, including braking earlier and more smoothly and downshifting after slowing rather than using the gears to brake.

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Is there any EASY way to add your name to the side of the car like the AIs have? I want it to be there on replay just to satisfy my ego as I fly around Monza in 1:31 (one year and still no sub 1:30 lap-- yet). Thanks for the help, David
I created a custom paint job for the Eagle with my own name on the side (and my company's logo), as well as a three color stripe up the middle. I did it in Corel Photoshop after using WinMip to get to the car images. It was pretty easy. It was a long time before I broke 1:31 at Monza as well. I followed Everett Paddock around for a few laps one day and realized I wasn't going anywhere near deep enough into Parabolica. As the .wav file says "Hold onto your butt!". Now I'm running 1:29's. You can do it! --David Cook
john moore 23 Dec 1999#510106
Getting thru turn 1 (Curva Grande) well is one key, go in easy and hold a smooth line, as more laps are made pick up the speed thru the turn a bit, do not go in so deep that you are fighting to hold a good smooth line. The last turn (Parabolica) is also a good place to pick up time, try running the Cooper a while, it can go deep before braking, then move back to your prefferred car and just go in deeper. Different setups will be more or less stable under braking. fyi a default eagle with less fuel can run 1:29s, the cooper is slower but a great tool for trying different driving techniques. JM > Is there any EASY way to add your name to the side of the car like the AIs > have? I want it to be there on replay just to satisfy my ego as I fly > around Monza in 1:31 (one year and still no sub 1:30 lap-- yet). Thanks for > the help, > David
The easiest way to put your name on the car is to have, not patches, but car skin updates by other people. Then run them through winmip which is download able everywhere i think. Ah hell, want me to just send my, Hill's, and Clark's lotus bitmaps to you to play around with them. Providing your a lotus person, if not download car updates off of websites. Again run winmip. Then open them in windows paint. Zoom to the larger view and work with it.
Quoted text (18 lines)> Getting thru turn 1 (Curva Grande) well is one key, go in easy and hold a smooth > line, as more laps are made pick up the speed thru the turn a bit, do not go in > so deep that you are fighting to hold a good smooth line. The last turn > (Parabolica) is also a good place to pick up time, try running the Cooper a > while, it can go deep before braking, then move back to your prefferred car and > just go in deeper. Different setups will be more or less stable under braking. > fyi a default eagle with less fuel can run 1:29s, the cooper is slower but a > great tool for trying different driving techniques. > JM > > Is there any EASY way to add your name to the side of the car like the AIs > > have? I want it to be there on replay just to satisfy my ego as I fly > > around Monza in 1:31 (one year and still no sub 1:30 lap-- yet). Thanks for > > the help, > > David
Leaky_Valve 24 Dec 1999#510291
"Easy" doesn't come to mind with this procedure, David! Firstly you have to unpack the car file and then "un-MIP" it so that you can actually view and work with the large number of images that make up the complete car. You will also need to create a sign (I use Paint Shop Pro) for your name using an existing one as a template. Once you've done that it's simply a matter of converting back to MIPs and, if you want to tidy the car folder up, repacking all those MIPs and what-have-you into a DAT file. > Is there any EASY way to add your name to the side of the car like the AIs > have? I want it to be there on replay just to satisfy my ego as I fly > around Monza in 1:31 (one year and still no sub 1:30 lap-- yet). Thanks for > the help, > David -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----
Mr Meaner 24 Dec 1999#510292
My ego made me do this too! However, if you use Adobe Photoshop to manipulate the images, they open strangely and wouldn't convert to MIPs. I found I had to open the BMPs in Paint Shop Pro then cut and paste them into Photoshop. You need to do the reverse to save them out before you convert the BMPs back to MIPs. You can get WinMip at www.the-fastlane.com amongst others. A question: does anyone know if it is possible to statically assign car numbers (for league racing)? Then everyone could have a custom paint job... mm
EldredP 24 Dec 1999#510293
>It was a long time before I broke 1:31 at Monza as well. I followed Everett >Paddock around for a few laps one day and realized I wasn't going anywhere >near deep enough into Parabolica. As the .wav file says "Hold onto your >butt!". Now I'm running 1:29's. You can do it! I still am NOT understanding this... Example: If I have to start braking 300 feet from the corner in order to make it safely, how can I *possibly* go any deeper into the corner??? I *already* feel like I'm on the edge... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Well, as an alternative, you could try braking a little earlier <g>. Seriously, it's how much speed you are able to carry into, through and out of the corner that has a much greater effect on lap times than how late you are able to brake. Braking earlier & smoother means that the car is better set up for the corner. Cheers, Richard
Goy Larsen 24 Dec 1999#510295
> Well, as an alternative, you could try braking a little earlier <g>. > Seriously, it's how much speed you are able to carry into, through and out > of the corner that has a much greater effect on lap times than how late you > are able to brake. Braking earlier & smoother means that the car is better > set up for the corner. That was MY argument for braking where I did for T1 at Monza that time too Rik, but you claimed I braked WAY too early, and we all remember what happened don't we ? :-))) Have a nice Christmas Rik, and give my best to Jon and Mark if you "bump" into them :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy
Jan Hovius 24 Dec 1999#510296
Eldred, You really sound like a happy camper when it comes to GPL. You must love that game! Please relax, I'm facing the same problems too: Still at 1.31.16 and still in love with the game. Can't understand either how I possibly could brake any later for any curve any how. Either I'm not braking enough which results me ending up at the side of the road or I'm braking too much which leves a pretty skidmark on the road. Please let me know whenever you have that Golden Hint which does it for you (since I feel I'm in the same league that one should work for me too 8>) ) Anyhow herewith wishing you and everybody else in the GPL community all the best for the coming next year and a very merry christmas. Jan.
Quoted text (17 lines)> >It was a long time before I broke 1:31 at Monza as well. I followed Everett > >Paddock around for a few laps one day and realized I wasn't going anywhere > >near deep enough into Parabolica. As the .wav file says "Hold onto your > >butt!". Now I'm running 1:29's. You can do it! > I still am NOT understanding this... Example: If I have to start braking 300 > feet from the corner in order to make it safely, how can I *possibly* go any > deeper into the corner??? I *already* feel like I'm on the edge... > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
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One thing to note: I have just realised (I'm ever-so-slightly-slow) that my "technique" of grabbing lower gears as I enter the corner (a hangover from GP2) unsettles the car very badly (surprising, that. Just like a real car ;-) and I can now brake much deeper into corners by just using the brakes, deep enough that I don't get punted off the track by the AI entering the Outer Loop/T4R at WG. I sometimes even avoid them going into the Parabolica.
cf.aol.com>: Use the latest version of Spygirl with its great new sync feature and compare your braking to some fast downloaded laps. Are you braking as late as they are? Besides, don't get too caught up with going in as deep as possible on every turn, yes it will give you your best one off hotlap, but it's a dicey technique to try and be consistent with. What is important to get into is trail braking into the corner, which is NOT about slowing down, it's about turning the car. A SLIGHT application of the brakes from turn in point to somewhere before the apex, shifts the weight forward, which makes the front stick better, and therefore turn harder, and unweights the rear, making it oversteer, and turn the car quicker. This gets you pointed out of the turn and able to get ON THE GAS sooner, which is way more important the going in deep. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.
While on this subject. Something I've wanted to do is to make the Lotus windshield clear to improve visibility of the road. Could this be done ? Has anybody done it ? -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.
Looks like you are really determined not to let me forget it <ggg> Thanks, same to you too. Haven't seen much of Jon since he went to college, guess he's discovered a real life or something <g>. Mark's been rushed off his feet recently and hasn't done any sim racing for a while as a result, spending what free time he gets killing people in Rogue Spear - on the whole, that seems preferable to doing so in his job ;-). Cheers, Richard
I want to thank everyone for their suggestions. I know I'm close to the sub 1:30 (my personal best is a 1:30.17 with the Eagle and default setups), and my technique right now is to slide into parabolica and half way through the turn before getting back on the gas. With a little more practice I'm sure I can do it consistently and shave another couple of tenths somewhere on the track. Keep your eyes out for the lavender helmet on VROC. David
EldredP 25 Dec 1999#510455
Quoted text (10 lines)>>I still am NOT understanding this... Example: If I have to start braking >300 >>feet from the corner in order to make it safely, how can I *possibly* go any >>deeper into the corner??? I *already* feel like I'm on the edge... >Well, as an alternative, you could try braking a little earlier <g>. >Seriously, it's how much speed you are able to carry into, through and out >of the corner that has a much greater effect on lap times than how late you >are able to brake. Braking earlier & smoother means that the car is better >set up for the corner.
So by braking earlier, I'm losing on maximum speed in the straights, right? I already seem to braks earlier than everyone I race(AI or online). Eldred - who's taking his holiday vacation to beat the HELL outta GPL... -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 25 Dec 1999#510456
>You really sound like a happy camper when it comes to GPL. You must love that >game! Currently a love/HATE relationship...<g> I'm just trying to find whatever special idea,tip,technique that will make it all fall into place... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 25 Dec 1999#510457
>One thing to note: I have just realised (I'm ever-so-slightly-slow) that my >"technique" of grabbing lower gears as I enter the corner (a hangover from >GP2) unsettles the car very badly (surprising, that. Just like a real car >;-) and I can now brake much deeper into corners by just using the brakes, >deep enough that I don't get punted off the track by the AI entering the >Outer Loop/T4R at WG. I sometimes even avoid them going into the Parabolica. So...when DO you shift? -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Goy Larsen 25 Dec 1999#510458
> >That was MY argument for braking where I did for T1 at Monza that time > >too Rik, but you claimed I braked WAY too early, and we all remember > >what happened don't we ? :-))) > Looks like you are really determined not to let me forget it <ggg> Hard to forget, it's the only time I've been ahead of you on the track in GPL, and as far as I can remember, it's also the only time we've tangled from all the laps we've run together in various sims, so it kinda stands out from the crowd :-) Come to think of it, I've punted Stu off the track several times, and he's my teammate.... Uhh, cops in the UK don't carry guns do they ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy
Quoted text (9 lines)> >One thing to note: I have just realised (I'm ever-so-slightly-slow) that my > >"technique" of grabbing lower gears as I enter the corner (a hangover from > >GP2) unsettles the car very badly (surprising, that. Just like a real car > >;-) and I can now brake much deeper into corners by just using the brakes, > >deep enough that I don't get punted off the track by the AI entering the > >Outer Loop/T4R at WG. I sometimes even avoid them going into the Parabolica. > So...when DO you shift? > --
Using Parabolica as an example, I brake down to entry speed (or just above) first, *then* I give her 3 quick downshifts. You'll find that trying to use the downshift to help slow you down just upsets the car many times & makes it harder to control. I used to do that all the time, by instinct. It wasn't until I broke myself of that habit that I was able to manage a sub-1:30 time at Monza. -- //Chuck Kandler #70 //ChuckK or KS70 on Won.net //K&S Racing //http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 //The box said "Windows 0x5f or better", so I installed LINUX!
EldredP 25 Dec 1999#510460
writes: That sounds like what I need to try. I downshift the same way as you mentioned before. Probably picked up the technique from GP2 also...<shrug> Back to the track... Thanks. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
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