GPL, TSW and squash ball

I have TSW and I would like to try "squash ball" breaking technique. I bought squash ball (dunlop black with 2 yellow dots - the softest/slowest), I cut it in a half and to my surprise, ball was hollow. Nobody can use that to give more resistance under break pedal. So, I have two questions: 1. Sounds funny but, what type of squash ball is best suited for this purpose? 2. I opened TSW pedal controller box and couldn't find a good place for a squash ball. Can anybody describe how and where to put this ball in TSW? Thank you in advance. Darko

That's the right ball and, yes, it is hollow. Whether it can be used with your particular pedals I don't know. On many pedals it can simply be wedged between the back of the pedal and the pedal base (without opening the base) and it works quite well.

Nice to see my trick is still around. The idea is to have the ball firmly between your pedal and some type of backstop that is immovable. You can use any size or type of ball, but in theory a hollow ball is better than solid because the air will "stiffen" the pedal feel as it is compressed. You should also consider using two different balls to get more back pressure from the brake pedal. Additionally by placing the ball higher or lower on the pedal you can vary the pedal travel and feel due to leverage ratios. As for the backstop... I can tell you how to build a***pit for $30 but that's another story. John Moore

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> I have TSW and I would like to try "squash ball" breaking technique. I > bought squash ball (dunlop black with 2 yellow dots - the softest/slowest), > I cut it in a half and to my surprise, ball was hollow. Nobody can use that > to give more resistance under break pedal. So, I have two questions: > 1. Sounds funny but, what type of squash ball is best suited for this > purpose? > 2. I opened TSW pedal controller box and couldn't find a good place for a > squash ball. Can anybody describe how and where to put this ball in TSW? > Thank you in advance. > Darko

I have the CH Pro pedals, and bought a squash ball for it last week (single white dot). It fits perfectly under the brake pedal, I used double sided tape to keep it firmly in place. It made a huge improvement on my braking! Andre

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>Nice to see my trick is still around. The idea is to have the ball firmly >between your pedal and some type of backstop that is immovable. You can use any >size or type of ball, but in theory a hollow ball is better than solid because >the air will "stiffen" the pedal feel as it is compressed. You should also >consider using two different balls to get more back pressure from the brake >pedal. Additionally by placing the ball higher or lower on the pedal you can >vary the pedal travel and feel due to leverage ratios. As for the backstop... I >can tell you how to build a***pit for $30 but that's another story. >John Moore >> I have TSW and I would like to try "squash ball" breaking technique. I >> bought squash ball (dunlop black with 2 yellow dots - the softest/slowest), >> I cut it in a half and to my surprise, ball was hollow. Nobody can use that >> to give more resistance under break pedal. So, I have two questions: >> 1. Sounds funny but, what type of squash ball is best suited for this >> purpose? >> 2. I opened TSW pedal controller box and couldn't find a good place for a >> squash ball. Can anybody describe how and where to put this ball in TSW? >> Thank you in advance. >> Darko

Andre, May I conclude you don't cut the ball open but mount it on the pedal base (or underneath the pedal itself)?

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> I have the CH Pro pedals, and bought a squash ball for it last week > (single white dot). It fits perfectly under the brake pedal, I used > double sided tape to keep it firmly in place. > It made a huge improvement on my braking! > Andre > >Nice to see my trick is still around. The idea is to have the ball firmly > >between your pedal and some type of backstop that is immovable. You can use any > >size or type of ball, but in theory a hollow ball is better than solid because > >the air will "stiffen" the pedal feel as it is compressed. You should also > >consider using two different balls to get more back pressure from the brake > >pedal. Additionally by placing the ball higher or lower on the pedal you can > >vary the pedal travel and feel due to leverage ratios. As for the backstop... I > >can tell you how to build a***pit for $30 but that's another story. > >John Moore > >> I have TSW and I would like to try "squash ball" breaking technique. I > >> bought squash ball (dunlop black with 2 yellow dots - the softest/slowest), > >> I cut it in a half and to my surprise, ball was hollow. Nobody can use that > >> to give more resistance under break pedal. So, I have two questions: > >> 1. Sounds funny but, what type of squash ball is best suited for this > >> purpose? > >> 2. I opened TSW pedal controller box and couldn't find a good place for a > >> squash ball. Can anybody describe how and where to put this ball in TSW? > >> Thank you in advance. > >> Darko

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Indeed, I forgot to mention that I didn't cut the ball open. I mounted it with double sided tape on the base. Works like a charm! I also tried it with my lwff pedals, but those are not really suited for this imho, the brake pedal and its range is too small. Andre

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>Andre, >May I conclude you don't cut the ball open but mount it on the pedal base (or >underneath the pedal itself)? >> I have the CH Pro pedals, and bought a squash ball for it last week >> (single white dot). It fits perfectly under the brake pedal, I used >> double sided tape to keep it firmly in place. >> It made a huge improvement on my braking! >> Andre >> >Nice to see my trick is still around. The idea is to have the ball firmly >> >between your pedal and some type of backstop that is immovable. You can use any >> >size or type of ball, but in theory a hollow ball is better than solid because >> >the air will "stiffen" the pedal feel as it is compressed. You should also >> >consider using two different balls to get more back pressure from the brake >> >pedal. Additionally by placing the ball higher or lower on the pedal you can >> >vary the pedal travel and feel due to leverage ratios. As for the backstop... I >> >can tell you how to build a***pit for $30 but that's another story. >> >John Moore >> >> I have TSW and I would like to try "squash ball" breaking technique. I >> >> bought squash ball (dunlop black with 2 yellow dots - the softest/slowest), >> >> I cut it in a half and to my surprise, ball was hollow. Nobody can use that >> >> to give more resistance under break pedal. So, I have two questions: >> >> 1. Sounds funny but, what type of squash ball is best suited for this >> >> purpose? >> >> 2. I opened TSW pedal controller box and couldn't find a good place for a >> >> squash ball. Can anybody describe how and where to put this ball in TSW? >> >> Thank you in advance. >> >> Darko >--------------ECE9C6ECE222A85A6DE82863 >Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > name="J.H.Hovius.vcf" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Description: Card for Jan Hovius >Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="J.H.Hovius.vcf" >begin:vcard >n:Hovius;Jan >tel;fax:X-31-53-4892799 (work) / X-31-20-8844453 (private) >tel;work:X-31-53-4892641 >x-mozilla-html:TRUE >url:http://www.ice.el.utwente.nl/~janh >org:University of Twente;MESA Research Institute >adr:;;P.O.Box 217;Enschede;;7500 AE;The Netherlands >version:2.1 >title:B.Sc.E.E. >x-mozilla-cpt:;30272 >fn:Jan Hovius >end:vcard >--------------ECE9C6ECE222A85A6DE82863--

Does anybody have try with the MSFF ? where do you put the ball ? tks in advance -- ============================================================================== Sebastien Tixier - Game Developer http://www.eden-studios.fr http://www.vrally.com http://www.multimania.com/hclyon ==============================================================================

I read that the MSFF pedals were perfect for fitting a squash ball, there was allready room in the base for it in which you can put the ball, even without using tape afaik. I don't know this for sure as I don't have the MSFF. Andre On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:59:32 +0100, Sebastien Tixier

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>Does anybody have try with the MSFF ? where do you put the ball ? >tks in advance >-- >============================================================================== >Sebastien Tixier - Game Developer >http://www.eden-studios.fr >http://www.vrally.com >http://www.multimania.com/hclyon >==============================================================================

Thank you for the information, i'll buy a ball tomorow ! Wednesday, i'll trail brake prodigiously at parabolica and i'll do a sub 1m28, I had talk, hugh ! :o)

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> I read that the MSFF pedals were perfect for fitting a squash ball, > there was allready room in the base for it in which you can put the > ball, even without using tape afaik. I don't know this for sure as I > don't have the MSFF. > Andre > On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:59:32 +0100, Sebastien Tixier > >Does anybody have try with the MSFF ? where do you put the ball ? > >tks in advance > >-- > >============================================================================== > >Sebastien Tixier - Game Developer > >http://www.eden-studios.fr > >http://www.vrally.com > >http://www.multimania.com/hclyon > >==============================================================================

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>Does anybody have try with the MSFF ? where do you put the ball ? >tks in advance Hi! I have the MSFF. However, I use a Penn Raquetball -- which I'm sure gives me much better performance than a squash ball. ;-) I cut the ball in half, and wedge it curved side up in the slot under the brake pedal. Fits great, and doesn't even need tape to hold it in place. Kurt

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> Andre, > > May I conclude you don't cut the ball open but mount it on the pedal base (or > underneath the pedal itself)? > > Andre Warringa wrote: > > > I have the CH Pro pedals, and bought a squash ball for it last week > > (single white dot). It fits perfectly under the brake pedal, I used > > double sided tape to keep it firmly in place. > > It made a huge improvement on my braking! > > > > Andre > > > > On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:05:37 GMT, john moore <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Nice to see my trick is still around. The idea is to have the ball firmly > > >between your pedal and some type of backstop that is immovable. You can use any > > >size or type of ball, but in theory a hollow ball is better than solid because > > >the air will "stiffen" the pedal feel as it is compressed. You should also > > >consider using two different balls to get more back pressure from the brake > > >pedal. Additionally by placing the ball higher or lower on the pedal you can > > >vary the pedal travel and feel due to leverage ratios. As for the backstop... I > > >can tell you how to build a cockpit for $30 but that's another story. > > >John Moore > > > > > >Darko Juvan wrote: > > > > > >> I have TSW and I would like to try "squash ball" breaking technique. I > > >> bought squash ball (dunlop black with 2 yellow dots - the softest/slowest), > > >> I cut it in a half and to my surprise, ball was hollow. Nobody can use that > > >> to give more resistance under break pedal. So, I have two questions: > > >> > > >> 1. Sounds funny but, what type of squash ball is best suited for this > > >> purpose? > > >> > > >> 2. I opened TSW pedal controller box and couldn't find a good place for a > > >> squash ball. Can anybody describe how and where to put this ball in TSW? > > >> > > >> Thank you in advance. > > >> > > >> Darko > > >