Logitech Wingman FF - Squeaks!

Well I took a leap of faith today and bought my first Force Feed Wheel. Love the effects - but, it's a LWFF, and it squeaks! After about 15 minutes of use it has started to squeak like old office chair. Which does nothing for the immersion factor. Too bad cause I got used to the pedals right away, I had read so many bad reports about them I thought they would be a problem. Has anyone contacted Logitech about this? Anyone have a fix? Alan

Same thing with my logitech wheel. I've heard that you can spray it with something but I haven't tried it yet. It seems to be a common problem with this particular wheel.

I went inside mine and worked some light grease into the bushings though a dry graphite compound would probably be better. There is a lot of slop in those bushings though. I'm going to check out the ball bearing conversion . BTW : to get into the wheel pop the hub cover off to gain access to the hub nut. Disconnect the gang connector from mini board in hub, remove hub nut and keeper. Pull wheel off making sure that gang connector doesn't snag. Turn wheel unit over and remove the 6 silver headed screws ( the black ones can be left undisturbed). Slide upper cover off over wheel shaft and there you are. David

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> Same thing with my logitech wheel. I've heard that you can spray it with > something but I haven't tried it yet. It seems to be a common problem with > this particular wheel. > > Well I took a leap of faith today and bought my first Force Feed Wheel. > Love > > the effects - but, it's a LWFF, and it squeaks! > > After about 15 minutes of use it has started to squeak like old office > > chair. Which does nothing for the immersion factor. > > Too bad cause I got used to the pedals right away, I had read so many

bad > > reports about them I thought they would be a problem. > > Has anyone contacted Logitech about this? Anyone have a fix? > > Alan

It seems that some squeak, and others don't. It must be a factor of production tolerances lining up a certain way. I would suggest taking it back and grabbing another until you get one that doesn't squeak. I've been lucky enough to have mine for a couple months now with no squeaks what so ever. -- Aaron Gillum RDOS Director of Operations http://www.racing-design.com/rdos Now Accepting Applications! -- "You could have been paid to read this message. www.getpaid4.com/?bargler " --

Thanks for the input, but I don't have the time to exchange until I find one that's OK. Not sure if I'll give any others a try. I'd get the MSFF, but I rather have USB (hot swap between flight sims and racing sims). The GFFF looks good, but the local stores don't carry it, I won't mail order because the high cost of shipping precludes any exchange once you buy. Alan

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>It seems that some squeak, and others don't. It must be a factor of >production tolerances lining up a certain way. >I would suggest taking it back and grabbing another until you get one that >doesn't squeak. >I've been lucky enough to have mine for a couple months now with no squeaks >what so ever. >-- >Aaron Gillum >RDOS Director of Operations >http://www.racing-design.com/rdos Now Accepting Applications! >-- >"You could have been paid to read this message. www.getpaid4.com/?bargler " >-- >> Well I took a leap of faith today and bought my first Force Feed Wheel. >Love >> the effects - but, it's a LWFF, and it squeaks! >> After about 15 minutes of use it has started to squeak like old office >> chair. Which does nothing for the immersion factor. >> Too bad cause I got used to the pedals right away, I had read so many bad >> reports about them I thought they would be a problem. >> Has anyone contacted Logitech about this? Anyone have a fix? >> Alan

I bought a LWFF earlier this year and was very disappointed that it squeaked, however after a couple of days good use the squeak disappeared completely all on it's own. I for one was reluctant to open the wheel and invalidate the guarantee on a 130 product :-) Cheers Stewart

With the BB conversion the squeaking definitely stops. There is still a little noise from the motor's carbon brushes, which isn't annoying. Jens On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:48:47 GMT, "David Erb" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I went inside mine and worked some light grease into the bushings though a >dry graphite compound would probably be better. There is a lot of slop in >those bushings though. I'm going to check out the ball bearing conversion .<snip> --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address Visit my webpage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ for some serious stuff concerning: Radio controlled airplanes Racing simulation, esp. GPL Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor

Hi! I put a little grease on the bushing, and now no squeak. It's very easy to make...only 3 bushing to grease. Sure, the best is the BB conversion... Louis "JS" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: [email hidden]... > With the BB conversion the squeaking definitely stops. There is still alittle

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> noise from the motor's carbon brushes, which isn't annoying. > > Jens > > > > On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:48:47 GMT, "David Erb" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I went inside mine and worked some light grease into the bushings though

a > >dry graphite compound would probably be better. There is a lot of slop in > >those bushings though. I'm going to check out the ball bearing conversion. > <snip> > --------------------------------------------- > [email hidden] > Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address > > Visit my webpage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ for some seriousstuff concerning: > Radio controlled airplanes > Racing simulation, esp. GPL > Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor

Hi! It is necessary surely to pay attention to the choice of grease, in my case I have use grease high speed that I am useful myself has the work for precisely grease of the nylon bushings Thanks Louis

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> Louis, > Be careful with grease - petroleum based lubricants could dissolve your > bushings. > Jens > >Hi! > >I put a little grease on the bushing, and now no squeak. > >It's very easy to make...only 3 bushing to grease. > >Sure, the best is the BB conversion... > >Louis > --------------------------------------------- > Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address > Visit my webpage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ for some serious

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Louis, Be careful with grease - petroleum based lubricants could dissolve your bushings. Jens --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address Visit my webpage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ for some serious stuff concerning: Radio controlled airplanes Racing simulation, esp. GPL Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor