GPL & Fuel consumption

Does anyone know if fuel consumption in GPL is constant or rpm based? I ran a long race at Watkins Glen and set my fuel level in the setup screen to be one lap more than the race length. I knew that that amount would cut it short so while I was in the lead I short shifted about 1,000-2,000 RPM lower than the optimum power band on my Ferrari. I figured that as in real life that if I short shifted I would get a lot more mileage out of the car. Unfortunately the car still ran out of gas on the last lap while I was in the lead. Luckily for me though I was able to cost through the last 5 turns and still finish first! :-) Anyway if anyone knows about the fuel consumption in GPL and how it works please let me know. - John

It's based on Revs, Try not to spin the wheels either it just wastes fuel.

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> Does anyone know if fuel consumption in GPL is constant or rpm based? I ran > a long race at Watkins Glen and set my fuel level in the setup screen to be > one lap more than the race length. I knew that that amount would cut it > short so while I was in the lead I short shifted about 1,000-2,000 RPM lower > than the optimum power band on my Ferrari. I figured that as in real life > that if I short shifted I would get a lot more mileage out of the car. > Unfortunately the car still ran out of gas on the last lap while I was in > the lead. Luckily for me though I was able to cost through the last 5 turns > and still finish first! :-) > Anyway if anyone knows about the fuel consumption in GPL and how it works > please let me know. > - John

If it is based on revs then why did I run out of fuel? I carefully made sure I was doing a lot of short shifting several thousand RPM earlier. It was interesting because with short shifting I was loosing about 1 seconds a lap over my normal fast lap times.If you figure an average race of about 18 laps at the Glen that works out to over 18 seconds wasted to save about 1 gallon of gas. I think next time I'm going to just fill the car with a few extra gallons and forget the short shifting bit! :-) - John

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> It's based on Revs, Try not to spin the wheels either it just wastes > fuel. > > Does anyone know if fuel consumption in GPL is constant or rpm based? I

ran > > a long race at Watkins Glen and set my fuel level in the setup screen to be > > one lap more than the race length. I knew that that amount would cut it > > short so while I was in the lead I short shifted about 1,000-2,000 RPM lower > > than the optimum power band on my Ferrari. I figured that as in real life > > that if I short shifted I would get a lot more mileage out of the car. > > Unfortunately the car still ran out of gas on the last lap while I was in > > the lead. Luckily for me though I was able to cost through the last 5 turns > > and still finish first! :-) > > Anyway if anyone knows about the fuel consumption in GPL and how it works > > please let me know. > > - John

In each track in the Tracks folder you'll find a track.ini file. By reading this file, it seems to me that the fuel consumption is constant. One lap results in a fixed amount of fuel consumption. Jon > If it is based on revs then why did I run out of fuel? I carefully made sure > I was doing a lot of short shifting several thousand RPM earlier. > It was interesting because with short shifting I was loosing about 1 seconds > a lap over my normal fast lap times.If you figure an average race of about > 18 laps at the Glen that works out to over 18 seconds wasted to save about 1

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> gallon of gas. I think next time I'm going to just fill the car with a few > extra gallons and forget the short shifting bit! :-) > - John > > It's based on Revs, Try not to spin the wheels either it just wastes > > fuel. > > > Does anyone know if fuel consumption in GPL is constant or rpm based?

I > ran > > > a long race at Watkins Glen and set my fuel level in the setup screen to > be > > > one lap more than the race length. I knew that that amount would cut it

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> > > short so while I was in the lead I short shifted about 1,000-2,000 RPM > lower > > > than the optimum power band on my Ferrari. I figured that as in real > life > > > that if I short shifted I would get a lot more mileage out of the car. > > > Unfortunately the car still ran out of gas on the last lap while I was > in > > > the lead. Luckily for me though I was able to cost through the last 5 > turns > > > and still finish first! :-) > > > Anyway if anyone knows about the fuel consumption in GPL and how it > works > > > please let me know. > > > - John

Im almost 100% it is for the AI, not for us. It has been like that in all Papyrus sims. I would speculate that it is calculated on many factors, mostly all related to the engine revs. The main point is to always take out more, as the estimation is just simply innacurate. That's all. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I believe it's rpm based, but you can easily test it for yourself. Put 1 gal of fuel in during practice and then try seeing how far you get when hammering it compared to pootling around in first gear. I bet you go further with the latter method before engine gives up. -- Peter Ives

Put 1 or even 10 gallons of gas in the car and rev the engine in the pits without moving and you'll run out of gas in due time. Your driving style will effect the fuel consumption. Maybe we should have races where you have to have 8-9 laps worth of fuel for a 10 lap race. You would have to use some kind of racing strategy to be fast. Know when and how long you can push it and still be able finish the race, it would make the racing interesting in the final laps. It wouldn't be the 100% full out suicide runs for the whole race we see now.

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> In each track in the Tracks folder you'll find a track.ini file. By reading > this file, it seems to me that the fuel consumption is constant. One lap > results in a fixed amount of fuel consumption. > Jon > > If it is based on revs then why did I run out of fuel? I carefully made > sure > > I was doing a lot of short shifting several thousand RPM earlier. > > It was interesting because with short shifting I was loosing about 1 > seconds > > a lap over my normal fast lap times.If you figure an average race of about > > 18 laps at the Glen that works out to over 18 seconds wasted to save about > 1 > > gallon of gas. I think next time I'm going to just fill the car with a few > > extra gallons and forget the short shifting bit! :-) > > - John > > > It's based on Revs, Try not to spin the wheels either it just wastes > > > fuel. > > > > Does anyone know if fuel consumption in GPL is constant or rpm based? > I > > ran > > > > a long race at Watkins Glen and set my fuel level in the setup screen > to > > be > > > > one lap more than the race length. I knew that that amount would cut > it > > > > short so while I was in the lead I short shifted about 1,000-2,000 RPM > > lower > > > > than the optimum power band on my Ferrari. I figured that as in real > > life > > > > that if I short shifted I would get a lot more mileage out of the car. > > > > Unfortunately the car still ran out of gas on the last lap while I was > > in > > > > the lead. Luckily for me though I was able to cost through the last 5 > > turns > > > > and still finish first! :-) > > > > Anyway if anyone knows about the fuel consumption in GPL and how it > > works > > > > please let me know. > > > > - John

it's coast, but the thing is that 5 turns at the glen is almost a whole lap?

Yeah...and that's a LONG way to be coasting...let's see...the 90...the lefty before it....the righty before that...the speed trap...big bend...you coasted from big bend?? That's more than half a lap! When you say you coasted, did you mean it started sputtering real bad there, or was the engine completely dead? Cause when it starts sputtering, it's not much better than coastin'. -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "Yeah you won't find me I'm going MIA Tonight I'm leaving Going MIA Getting lost in you again Is better than being known" -Foo Fighters, "MIA"

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> Yeah...and that's a LONG way to be coasting...let's see...the 90...the lefty > before it....the righty before that...the speed trap...big bend...you > coasted from big bend?? That's more than half a lap! When you say you > coasted, did you mean it started sputtering real bad there, or was the > engine completely dead? Cause when it starts sputtering, it's not much > better than coastin'. > -- > Kirk Lane > ICQ: 28171652 > BRT #187 > "Yeah you won't find me > I'm going MIA > Tonight I'm leaving > Going MIA > Getting lost in you again > Is better than being known" > -Foo Fighters, "MIA" > > > I was able to cost through the last 5 turns > > it's coast, but the thing is that 5 turns at the glen is almost a whole > lap?

Big bend (aka Fast Bend) is the right (T-6) right before the left (T-7) that's before the 90 (T-8). Or, It's the right (T-6) just after the speed trap (T-5). The turn that you say it is is actually called the Chute (T-4). There was another name for the Chute, but I can't remember it right now. -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)