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36 posts by 25 people · 17 Dec 1999 - 27 Dec 1999

Celebrating a sub-1:30 lap at Monza in GPL

Steve celebrated his first lap under 1:30 at Monza in the Eagle, and others shared their milestones and wives' reactions. Sebastien Tixier proposed a joking Monza skill scale from newbie to ace, and others discussed why Monza is so popular and argued that consistency in races matters more than hotlap times.

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Steve 17 Dec 1999#509341
Finally i did a 1.29.92 at Monza just today, i have been trying for about 2 months now. I was almost going to give up on the Eagle but what a feeling even my wife asked me why are you so happy and i told her and she said not that game again, don't you have anything better to do with your spare time. Anyways i wanted to tell somebody who's interested and i'm sure most of you know the feeling from reading the posts on this NG. Merry Chirstmas everyone and if by chance you happen to see an Eagle in your rearview mirrors at Monza waving at everyone thats me. Now if i could just get in the 1.28's i could give those Lotus's and Ferrari's a run for thier money. Steve!
Congrats! I remember the first time I broke 1:30. Still have yet to see anything below 1:29, but I think I can do it. I'm in the Eagle too :p --David Cook
Quoted text (15 lines)> Finally i did a 1.29.92 at Monza just today, i > have been trying for about 2 months now. > I was almost going to give up on the Eagle > but what a feeling even my wife asked me why > are you so happy and i told her and she said not > that game again, don't you have anything better > to do with your spare time. Anyways i wanted to > tell somebody who's interested and i'm sure most > of you know the feeling from reading the posts on > this NG. Merry Chirstmas everyone and if by chance > you happen to see an Eagle in your rearview mirrors > at Monza waving at everyone thats me. Now if i could > just get in the 1.28's i could give those Lotus's and > Ferrari's a run for thier money. > Steve!
Brian Fox 17 Dec 1999#509343
I have been trying for months to break into the 1:29's with the honda. Last week I gave all the other cars another try at monza for 15 laps, and when I got to the eagle, I drove a 1:29:95 on lap 8. Giving me a total of probably 25 laps combining all tracks in the eagle. Go figure. Brian Fox http://www.geocities.com/~foxman If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.
Quoted text (15 lines)>Finally i did a 1.29.92 at Monza just today, i >have been trying for about 2 months now. >I was almost going to give up on the Eagle >but what a feeling even my wife asked me why >are you so happy and i told her and she said not >that game again, don't you have anything better >to do with your spare time. Anyways i wanted to >tell somebody who's interested and i'm sure most >of you know the feeling from reading the posts on >this NG. Merry Chirstmas everyone and if by chance >you happen to see an Eagle in your rearview mirrors >at Monza waving at everyone thats me. Now if i could >just get in the 1.28's i could give those Lotus's and >Ferrari's a run for thier money. >Steve!
I think your wife's reaction is very familiar for a lot of us :) Congrats! Andre
Wozmon 18 Dec 1999#509537
Congradulations! Although I haven't broke 1:30 yet (1:30:25) I know I will be estatic when I do! See ya at Monza
mad 18 Dec 1999#509538
Hi Guys My wife enjoys this game with me !!!!!!!! She also owns a racing wheel and enjoys a bit of racing to !!!! But I can share my enthousiasm about another fast lap with her !!! I guess I'am very very lucky !!!! Congratulations Steve I ( we ) know the feeling of going under 1:30 at monza I'am in 1:28 going for 1:27 Geez I love this Game ( and my wife :) Glenn
(unknown) 19 Dec 1999#509711
Quoted text (15 lines)> Finally i did a 1.29.92 at Monza just today, i > have been trying for about 2 months now. > I was almost going to give up on the Eagle > but what a feeling even my wife asked me why > are you so happy and i told her and she said not > that game again, don't you have anything better > to do with your spare time. Anyways i wanted to > tell somebody who's interested and i'm sure most > of you know the feeling from reading the posts on > this NG. Merry Chirstmas everyone and if by chance > you happen to see an Eagle in your rearview mirrors > at Monza waving at everyone thats me. Now if i could > just get in the 1.28's i could give those Lotus's and > Ferrari's a run for thier money. > Steve!
Well done that man, I've ony cracked 1:30 once myself to date, but if felt great. I drive the Eagle too.... 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html
Congrats Steve. I know the feeling well. I thought that it was just about impossible to turn a 1:29 lap at Monza in a Brabham. But I did it once !! Joel Willstein
Michael 20 Dec 1999#509894
Congratulations, but why does everybody love Monza so much, I find it a bit boring compared to Zandvoort, Mosport, Rouen, Spa and the Ring. There always seems to be a full grid for Monza on VROC though. Perhaps it's because it was in the demo. - Michael
Quoted text (8 lines)> > Finally i did a 1.29.92 at Monza just today, i > > have been trying for about 2 months now. > Congratulations, but why does everybody love Monza so much, I find it a > bit boring compared to Zandvoort, Mosport, Rouen, Spa and the Ring. > There always seems to be a full grid for Monza on VROC though. Perhaps > it's because it was in the demo.
Maybe because it is the easiest track to go "fairly" fast on? And because of the few turns and long straights it is great for competetive racing. -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying
Quoted text (11 lines)> > > Finally i did a 1.29.92 at Monza just today, i > > > have been trying for about 2 months now. > > Congratulations, but why does everybody love Monza so much, I find it a > > bit boring compared to Zandvoort, Mosport, Rouen, Spa and the Ring. > > There always seems to be a full grid for Monza on VROC though. Perhaps > > it's because it was in the demo. > Maybe because it is the easiest track to go "fairly" fast on? And because of > the few turns and long straights it is great for competetive racing.
Also, everybody who play GPL konw monza track lap times , so it' s a track standard :o) Everybody konw that +1'30 = newby , 1'29-1'30 = aprentice, 1'28-1'29 = driver , 1'27-1'28 = pro , sub 1'27 = ace. :o) i hope to be soon a pro :o) cause for now i'm a driver :o) -- ============================================================================== Sebastien Tixier - Game Developer http://www.eden-studios.fr http://www.vrally.com http://www.multimania.com/hclyon ==============================================================================
Monza seems easy, but when you drive for the 1:27, it suddenly becomes a very challenging track. Taking Curve Grande as fast as possible, exiting the 2nd lesmo and trailbraking into Parabolica as much as possible is very challenging. In training mode the long straights between start/curve grande and the 2nd lesmo/parabolica are sometimes boring, but for online racing I find Monza one of the best tracks. Lots of possibilities to overtake. Andre
Quoted text (10 lines)>> Finally i did a 1.29.92 at Monza just today, i >> have been trying for about 2 months now. >Congratulations, but why does everybody love Monza so much, I find it a >bit boring compared to Zandvoort, Mosport, Rouen, Spa and the Ring. >There always seems to be a full grid for Monza on VROC though. Perhaps >it's because it was in the demo. >- Michael
Quoted text (19 lines)> > > > Finally i did a 1.29.92 at Monza just today, i > > > > have been trying for about 2 months now. > > > Congratulations, but why does everybody love Monza so much, I find it a > > > bit boring compared to Zandvoort, Mosport, Rouen, Spa and the Ring. > > > There always seems to be a full grid for Monza on VROC though. Perhaps > > > it's because it was in the demo. > > Maybe because it is the easiest track to go "fairly" fast on? And because of > > the few turns and long straights it is great for competetive racing. > Also, everybody who play GPL konw monza track lap times , so it' s a track > standard :o) > Everybody konw that +1'30 = newby , 1'29-1'30 = aprentice, 1'28-1'29 = driver , > 1'27-1'28 = pro > , sub 1'27 = ace. :o) > i hope to be soon a pro :o) cause for now i'm a driver :o)
Hmm, i'm still a newbie then after one year of GPL..... -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying
These times are for the Lotus and Eagle. If you can do a sub 1'27 in a Cooper, you're not an ace, you're lying :) Andre
> These times are for the Lotus and Eagle. If you can do a sub 1'27 in a > Cooper, you're not an ace, you're lying :) hehe, good one. Still can't get under 1:30 in the Eagle though....... -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying
Michael 20 Dec 1999#509901
says... I didn't say it was easy - especially as my best is in the 1:28's, it's just that I like to drive flowing curves that link together with changes of gradient and camber. i.e. the Ring:-) - Michael
ymenard 20 Dec 1999#509902
For the Lotus, of course. Low 1'29's with the Honda are incredible laptimes for me <g> (I've never seen a sub 1:29 with the Honda). -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
Jim Allison 20 Dec 1999#509903
Lucky you! :-) I can see the ads from lonely GPLers now: s/w/m enjoys long walks on the track, intimate dinners at a little cafe on the exit of the Masta kink, and Sunday drives in the country (at frightening speeds). Looking for s/w/f with sub-1:30 at Monza and an intimate understanding of differential settings. I'm a smoker but I'm working on throttle control.
Quoted text (9 lines)> Hi Guys > My wife enjoys this game with me !!!!!!!! > She also owns a racing wheel and enjoys a bit of racing to !!!! > But I can share my enthousiasm about another fast lap with her !!! > I guess I'am very very lucky !!!! > Congratulations Steve I ( we ) know the feeling of going under 1:30 at
monza
Quoted text (12 lines)> I'am in 1:28 going for 1:27 > Geez I love this Game ( and my wife :) > Glenn > > Congradulations! Although I haven't broke 1:30 yet (1:30:25) I know I > will be > > estatic when I do! See ya at Monza
Tim Vanhee 20 Dec 1999#509904
I guess it's one of the only tracks where you don't have to be fully concentrated every single second and it's quite easy to learn too mostly because everybody knows the track from modern F1 sims.
Graeme Nash 21 Dec 1999#290960
>It's easy to see just how inconsistent even the fastest guys are with the >latest version of SpyGirl. When you select a replay, even though you only have >the one replay, you get to see ALL the lap times that were done in that >session. Ah, but that's when they're really going for it and hotlapping. In races the majority of them are very consistent. See if you can get hold of a replay of a Champs League race and prepare to pick your jaw up off the floor :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash
Boswoj 21 Dec 1999 06:55 UTC#291065
Congrats - but I think you are wrong about needing 1:28s to chase the fast guys! What you really need is to be able to run nice clean consistent 1:29s and 1:30s lap after lap after lap ... you get the idea. There are a lot of hotlappers out there who dont race well simply because they need their line and ONLY their line to go fast. Thats a bit of a problem when there are other cars on the track running what they think are their best lines. I finish in the top three of a majority of the VROC races I run because I can run 29s and 30s all day long, yet I rarely run a 28. There are guys out there running low 27's fairly often, and a few of them are consistant ( to be read as "unbeatable!") but the vast majority of hotlappers are , "1:28, spin, 1:28, spin, 1:28, wreck" guys who I wave to on the side of the track when I go "1:30, 1:30, 1:30......... Congratulations though - and keep practicing!! Jean-Jaques the Evil Cat Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Mky64.14152$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> Finally i did a 1.29.92 at Monza just today, i > have been trying for about 2 months now. > I was almost going to give up on the Eagle > but what a feeling even my wife asked me why > are you so happy and i told her and she said not > that game again, don't you have anything better > to do with your spare time. Anyways i wanted to > tell somebody who's interested and i'm sure most > of you know the feeling from reading the posts on > this NG. Merry Chirstmas everyone and if by chance > you happen to see an Eagle in your rearview mirrors > at Monza waving at everyone thats me. Now if i could > just get in the 1.28's i could give those Lotus's and > Ferrari's a run for thier money. > Steve! > > >
Kurt Steinbock 21 Dec 1999 12:21 UTC#290991
Jim Allison wrote in message <4PB74.24$[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (8 lines)> >Lucky you! :-) > >I can see the ads from lonely GPLers now: > >s/w/m enjoys long walks on the track, intimate dinners at a little cafe on >the exit >of the Masta kink, and Sunday drives in the country (at frightening
speeds). >Looking for s/w/f with sub-1:30 at Monza and an intimate understanding of >differential settings. I'm a smoker but I'm working on throttle control. >Great, Jim! LOL! A big spin of my beanie propeller to ya. Kurt
Don Scurlock 21 Dec 1999 19:27 UTC#290943
[email hidden] (Boswoj) wrote in <rvF74.6419$[email hidden]>:
Quoted text (13 lines)>Congrats - but I think you are wrong about needing 1:28s to chase the fast >guys! What you really need is to be able to run nice clean consistent 1:29s >and 1:30s lap after lap after lap ... you get the idea. There are a lot of >hotlappers out there who dont race well simply because they need their line >and ONLY their line to go fast. Thats a bit of a problem when there are >other cars on the track running what they think are their best lines. I >finish in the top three of a majority of the VROC races I run because I can >run 29s and 30s all day long, yet I rarely run a 28. There are guys out >there running low 27's fairly often, and a few of them are consistant ( to >be read as "unbeatable!") but the vast majority of hotlappers are , "1:28, >spin, 1:28, spin, 1:28, wreck" guys who I wave to on the side of the track >when I go "1:30, 1:30, 1:30......... >
It's easy to see just how inconsistent even the fastest guys are with the latest version of SpyGirl. When you select a replay, even though you only have the one replay, you get to see ALL the lap times that were done in that session. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.
Ian Parker 21 Dec 1999 22:13 UTC#290958
I'm not a hotlapper but can hold my own at most races. The times below gave me a 3rd place in a VROC race at Monza using a Ferrari (starting towards the back of the grid because I didnt qualify) and with 4th place finishing close behind me. Grand Prix Legends Autodromo Nazionale di Monza Lap Times Ian Parker 18/12/99 Practice None Race 1 1:41.96 2 1:29.88 3 1:29.85 4 1:28.99 5 1:28.86 6 1:28.75 7 1:28.87 8 1:29.02 9 1:30.21 10 1:28.70 11 1:28.55 So running 1:29's and 30's may be ok for most races, but there are many fast people out there who are also very consistent. -- Ian Parker [email hidden] UKGPL League http://members.xoom.com/ukgpl/index.html http://www.ukgpl.com -- Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > [email hidden] (Boswoj) wrote in <rvF74.6419$[email hidden]>: > > >Congrats - but I think you are wrong about needing 1:28s to chase the fast > >guys! What you really need is to be able to run nice clean consistent 1:29s > >and 1:30s lap after lap after lap ... you get the idea. There are a lot of > >hotlappers out there who dont race well simply because they need their line > >and ONLY their line to go fast. Thats a bit of a problem when there are > >other cars on the track running what they think are their best lines. I > >finish in the top three of a majority of the VROC races I run because I can > >run 29s and 30s all day long, yet I rarely run a 28. There are guys out > >there running low 27's fairly often, and a few of them are consistant to > >be read as "unbeatable!") but the vast majority of hotlappers are , "1:28, > >spin, 1:28, spin, 1:28, wreck" guys who I wave to on the side of the track > >when I go "1:30, 1:30, 1:30......... > > > > It's easy to see just how inconsistent even the fastest guys are with the > latest version of SpyGirl. When you select a replay, even though you only have > the one replay, you get to see ALL the lap times that were done in that > session. > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C.
Andre Warringa 21 Dec 1999 23:02 UTC#290983
Well that's not exactly true. If you watch a hotlap race, they are inconsistent indeed. But that's logical, since hotlapping is all about finding the limits of racing. During races all hotlappers I know are very consistent. If they can drive 1.27 laps, they can drive low 1.28 laps during races very consistant with ease. Andre >It's easy to see just how inconsistent even the fastest guys are with the >latest version of SpyGirl. When you select a replay, even though you only have >the one replay, you get to see ALL the lap times that were done in that >session.
Asbjørn Bjørnstad 21 Dec 1999 23:18 UTC#290984
"Ian Parker" <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (14 lines)> I'm not a hotlapper but can hold my own at most races. The times below gave > me a 3rd place in a VROC race at Monza using a Ferrari > > Race 1 1:41.96 > 2 1:29.88 > 3 1:29.85 > 4 1:28.99 > 5 1:28.86 > 6 1:28.75 > 7 1:28.87 > 8 1:29.02 > 9 1:30.21 > 10 1:28.70 > 11 1:28.55
Great! When I finally manage to squeeze in a 1.29.98 at monza you have to post something like this. -- [asbjxrn] [lLd25z*%ds1-100/sLlSdI%ds2-O/sSl1l2*PlL0<l]sl 21172310731916131628237117 3237142523312SSSLllxq
Alan Goss 22 Dec 1999#290803
>These times are for the Lotus and Eagle. If you can do a sub 1'27 in a >Cooper, you're not an ace, you're lying :) > >AndreI'm glad someone mentioned the Cooper. I can manage low 1:29's in the fast cars and easy 1:30's in the others but no matter how much I try and after endless different gearing permutations I just cant break 1:31 in the Cooper. It simply will not go. -- Alan Goss to reply, remove 'nospam'
Rick Hagen 22 Dec 1999#290918
On 22 Dec 1999 00:18:59 +0100, [email hidden] (Asbj0rn Bj0rnstad) wrote:
Quoted text (20 lines)>"Ian Parker" <[email hidden]> writes: > >> I'm not a hotlapper but can hold my own at most races. The times below gave >> me a 3rd place in a VROC race at Monza using a Ferrari >> >> Race 1 1:41.96 >> 2 1:29.88 >> 3 1:29.85 >> 4 1:28.99 >> 5 1:28.86 >> 6 1:28.75 >> 7 1:28.87 >> 8 1:29.02 >> 9 1:30.21 >> 10 1:28.70 >> 11 1:28.55 > >Great! >When I finally manage to squeeze in a 1.29.98 at monza you >have to post something like this.
This might cheer you up: I have a replay of a (well known) "hotlapper" doing low 1:27's lap after lap, after lap, after lap, after lap, after.... And no...he didn't spin once.
Ian Parker 22 Dec 1999 22:29 UTC#290813
Yes, there are lots of people who are faster and more conistent than I am, I was just posting as an example ;) I can do 27's in an Eagle but they are few and far between, besides I normally drive the Ferrari !! A friend of mine can do regular 27's in a Ferrari !!!!! -- Ian Parker [email hidden] UKGPL League http://members.xoom.com/ukgpl/index.html http://www.ukgpl.com -- Rick Hagen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 22 Dec 1999 00:18:59 +0100, [email hidden] (Asbj0rn > Bj0rnstad) wrote: > > >"Ian Parker" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > >> I'm not a hotlapper but can hold my own at most races. The times below gave > >> me a 3rd place in a VROC race at Monza using a Ferrari > >> > >> Race 1 1:41.96 > >> 2 1:29.88 > >> 3 1:29.85 > >> 4 1:28.99 > >> 5 1:28.86 > >> 6 1:28.75 > >> 7 1:28.87 > >> 8 1:29.02 > >> 9 1:30.21 > >> 10 1:28.70 > >> 11 1:28.55 > > > >Great! > >When I finally manage to squeeze in a 1.29.98 at monza you > >have to post something like this. > > > This might cheer you up: > I have a replay of a (well known) "hotlapper" doing low 1:27's lap > after lap, after lap, after lap, after lap, after.... > And no...he didn't spin once. >
EldredP 23 Dec 1999#510129
Quoted text (15 lines)>Finally i did a 1.29.92 at Monza just today, i >have been trying for about 2 months now. >I was almost going to give up on the Eagle >but what a feeling even my wife asked me why >are you so happy and i told her and she said not >that game again, don't you have anything better >to do with your spare time. Anyways i wanted to >tell somebody who's interested and i'm sure most >of you know the feeling from reading the posts on >this NG. Merry Chirstmas everyone and if by chance >you happen to see an Eagle in your rearview mirrors >at Monza waving at everyone thats me. Now if i could >just get in the 1.28's i could give those Lotus's and >Ferrari's a run for thier money. >Steve!
Is the Ferrari supposed to be *that* much faster than the Eagle at Monza? Uh oh, I have a lot of work to do... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 23 Dec 1999#510130
Quoted text (8 lines)>Also, everybody who play GPL konw monza track lap times , so it' s a track >standard :o) >Everybody konw that +1'30 = newby , 1'29-1'30 = aprentice, 1'28-1'29 = driver >, >1'27-1'28 = pro >, sub 1'27 = ace. :o) >i hope to be soon a pro :o) cause for now i'm a driver :o)
Thanks, Sebastien... It makes me feel good to know that I'm still a newbie(1:30.61) after 14 months...<sigh> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Rick Hag 23 Dec 1999#510131
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:29:53 GMT, "Ian Parker" >Yes, there are lots of people who are faster and more conistent than I am, I >was just posting as an example ;) >I can do 27's in an Eagle but they are few and far between, besides I >normally drive the Ferrari !! >A friend of mine can do regular 27's in a Ferrari !!!!! I was replying to a reply to your laptimes :) /quote Great! When I finally manage to squeeze in a 1.29.98 at monza you have to post something like this. quote/ You are consistent_and_fast alright. I've seen some replays from SRM, I think (W.Glen?) If you're the I.Parker I think you are, then ur faster than 95% of the gpl'ers. The rest of us: we are just mobile chicanes :p RH
Alan, While I can't turn laps faster than 1:32s in the Cooper. I've been in races where guys have turned 1:29s in the Cooper. Talk about being demoralized :)) Joel Willstein
J 27 Dec 1999#510781
LOL, great post Jens <snip> --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address Visit my webpage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ for some serious stuff concerning: Radio controlled airplanes Racing simulation, esp. GPL Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor
J 27 Dec 1999#510782
same happened to me, coming from the cooper. In my case it was lap 4 with the nunnini-setups Jens >I have been trying for months to break into the 1:29's with the honda. Last >week I gave all the other cars another try at monza for 15 laps, and when I >got to the eagle, I drove a 1:29:95 on lap 8. Giving me a total of probably >25 laps combining all tracks in the eagle. Go figure. >Brian Fox --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address Visit my webpage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ for some serious stuff concerning: Radio controlled airplanes Racing simulation, esp. GPL Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor
J 27 Dec 1999#510783
It's quite easy to drive consistantly there Jens >Congratulations, but why does everybody love Monza so much, I find it a >bit boring compared to Zandvoort, Mosport, Rouen, Spa and the Ring. <snip> --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address Visit my webpage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ for some serious stuff concerning: Radio controlled airplanes Racing simulation, esp. GPL Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor

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