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GPL: Really annoying problem

11 posts by 7 people · 15 Dec 1999 - 17 Dec 1999

Very often GPL crashes when I start a race. When I hit the green button to start, GPL changes to the 3d mode, and then it crashes. I can't really describe what I see on the screen when it crashes. I see the menu, but in 1024 resolution, and it's corrupted. Really weird. I then have to quit with C-A-D. I also have this when I go back to the menu after a race. As soon as it changes back to the menu, it locks up. I have this maybe 1 out of 10 times, and it is so frustrating. Yesterday I had a wonderfull online race at the ring, and after the race I wanted to save the replay. I pressed escape, and GPL locked up again. I have a Voodoo II SLI, drive in 1024 resolution, and I have the latest Diamond drivers and Glide 2.53 installed. Any suggestions would be VERY welcome... Andre
I have the same problem with about the same frequency. I'm told by those in the know that the problem lies with the Voodoo2 SLI's. Others who have had this same problem have switched to a Voodoo3 and the problem has gone away. Wayne Hutchison
Glad to hear that this is a known problem, but isn't there a 'install driver xx.xx' driver solution? Andre On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:39:16 -0500, "Wayne Hutchison"
Quoted text (29 lines)>I have the same problem with about the same frequency. I'm told by those in >the know that the problem lies with the Voodoo2 SLI's. Others who have had >this same problem have switched to a Voodoo3 and the problem has gone away. >Wayne Hutchison >> Very often GPL crashes when I start a race. When I hit the green >> button to start, GPL changes to the 3d mode, and then it crashes. >> I can't really describe what I see on the screen when it crashes. I >> see the menu, but in 1024 resolution, and it's corrupted. Really >> weird. I then have to quit with C-A-D. >> I also have this when I go back to the menu after a race. As soon as >> it changes back to the menu, it locks up. >> I have this maybe 1 out of 10 times, and it is so frustrating. >> Yesterday I had a wonderfull online race at the ring, and after the >> race I wanted to save the replay. I pressed escape, and GPL locked up >> again. >> I have a Voodoo II SLI, drive in 1024 resolution, and I have the >> latest Diamond drivers and Glide 2.53 installed. >> Any suggestions would be VERY welcome... >> Andre
john moore 15 Dec 1999#508892
> Glad to hear that this is a known problem, but isn't there a 'install > driver xx.xx' driver solution? Not that iv'e heard Andre. Since GPL does not utilize the power of sli perhaps you could disable it? I am no tech expert, try posting on some of the site forums and VROC chat. btw, i see what you meant, amazing. John
GTX_SlotCar 15 Dec 1999#508893
Just a thought, try the 3dfx reference drivers instead. Don't forget to get rid of the Diamond drivers first though.
I can't offer any specific advice as I'm a TNT2 user, other than to say that all my gpl video problems come and go as I experiment with different video drivers, so I would suggest to maybe try some different ones. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.
Rolf Hansso 15 Dec 1999#508895
AFAIK, you don't need the 2.53 glide.dll with GPL 1.2. / / Rolf
I have tried different 3dfx drivers, but no luck so far. What I didn't do was to uninstall the diamond drivers first. I'll give that one a try. And the reference drivers, are those the drivers found on www.3dfx.com? Andre
I did install different drivers, but no luck so far. I was hoping that someone else who had the same problem allready solved it. Someone said it was a specific SLI problem. But I want to keep using my Voodoo II SLI, because if I only use one Voodoo card, I can't play in 1024 resolution :( Andre
Quoted text (32 lines)>I can't offer any specific advice as I'm a TNT2 user, other than to say that >all my gpl video problems come and go as I experiment with different video >drivers, so I would suggest to maybe try some different ones. >>Very often GPL crashes when I start a race. When I hit the green >>button to start, GPL changes to the 3d mode, and then it crashes. >>I can't really describe what I see on the screen when it crashes. I >>see the menu, but in 1024 resolution, and it's corrupted. Really >>weird. I then have to quit with C-A-D. >>I also have this when I go back to the menu after a race. As soon as >>it changes back to the menu, it locks up. >>I have this maybe 1 out of 10 times, and it is so frustrating. >>Yesterday I had a wonderfull online race at the ring, and after the >>race I wanted to save the replay. I pressed escape, and GPL locked up >>again. >>I have a Voodoo II SLI, drive in 1024 resolution, and I have the >>latest Diamond drivers and Glide 2.53 installed. >>Any suggestions would be VERY welcome... >>Andre >-- >Don Scurlock >Vancouver,B.C.
Rob Adams 16 Dec 1999#509129
I've been watching this post for a while, too chicken to mess with my (working) Diamond Monster II SLI setup, but I finally bit the bullet. Download the "DirectX 7 beta" driver for Voodoo2 from www.3dfx.com, and unzip it to an empty folder. Then do a Find for "glide" on all your hard drive partitions. Replace any glide files you find with the equivalent ones from 3dfx. In my case, this updated me from glide 2.54 to glide 2.56. I have 2 12MB Monster 3DII's running SLI, on a Dell PII 333 with 128MB RAM, and here's a before and after: Before: N3: 30fps alone, 20-25 in pack, with 12 cars ahead and 2 back, anti-aliasing turned off GPL: 36 fps alone, 20 at start, 30 in moderate traffic. Cursor remnants all over screen in menus, lockups every 3rd day or so in menus. After: N3: 30fps all the time, 16 ahead, 3 behind, anti-aliasing turned on GPL: 36 fps alone, 25-30 at start, 33-36 in traffic, no cursor remnants, no lockups (so far, I just did it last night). Graphics in GPL also look clearer. Unreal Tournament and Half Life also look better, but no numbers to prove it. HIGHLY recommended update. Looks like Diamond isn't going to support 3DII anymore, so might as well rely on 3dfx for driver support.
Quoted text (44 lines)> I did install different drivers, but no luck so far. I was hoping that > someone else who had the same problem allready solved it. > Someone said it was a specific SLI problem. But I want to keep using > my Voodoo II SLI, because if I only use one Voodoo card, I can't play > in 1024 resolution :( > Andre > >I can't offer any specific advice as I'm a TNT2 user, other than to say that > >all my gpl video problems come and go as I experiment with different video > >drivers, so I would suggest to maybe try some different ones. > >>Very often GPL crashes when I start a race. When I hit the green > >>button to start, GPL changes to the 3d mode, and then it crashes. > >>I can't really describe what I see on the screen when it crashes. I > >>see the menu, but in 1024 resolution, and it's corrupted. Really > >>weird. I then have to quit with C-A-D. > >>I also have this when I go back to the menu after a race. As soon as > >>it changes back to the menu, it locks up. > >>I have this maybe 1 out of 10 times, and it is so frustrating. > >>Yesterday I had a wonderfull online race at the ring, and after the > >>race I wanted to save the replay. I pressed escape, and GPL locked up > >>again. > >>I have a Voodoo II SLI, drive in 1024 resolution, and I have the > >>latest Diamond drivers and Glide 2.53 installed. > >>Any suggestions would be VERY welcome... > >>Andre > >-- > >Don Scurlock > >Vancouver,B.C.
Rob Adams Victoria BC
What a coincidence Rob, I downloaded the beta drivers a few hours ago, installed them, and indeed no lockups so far !!!! I'll keep my fingers crossed untill I tested it at least a couple of days, but this looks very hopefull. The only thing I didn't do is replacing the gpl glide 2.53 driver with the 2.56 one. If I get a lockup, I can still try this, but it doesn't seem necessary so far. I haven't tested any fps improvements, gonna test that right now. Thanks! Andre On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:45:32 -0800, Rob Adams
Quoted text (76 lines)>I've been watching this post for a while, too chicken to mess with my (working) >Diamond Monster II SLI setup, but I finally bit the bullet. Download the "DirectX >7 beta" driver for Voodoo2 from www.3dfx.com, and unzip it to an empty folder. >Then do a Find for "glide" on all your hard drive partitions. Replace any glide >files you find with the equivalent ones from 3dfx. In my case, this updated me >from glide 2.54 to glide 2.56. >I have 2 12MB Monster 3DII's running SLI, on a Dell PII 333 with 128MB RAM, and >here's a before and after: >Before: >N3: 30fps alone, 20-25 in pack, with 12 cars ahead and 2 back, anti-aliasing >turned off >GPL: 36 fps alone, 20 at start, 30 in moderate traffic. Cursor remnants all over >screen in menus, lockups every 3rd day or so in menus. >After: >N3: 30fps all the time, 16 ahead, 3 behind, anti-aliasing turned on >GPL: 36 fps alone, 25-30 at start, 33-36 in traffic, no cursor remnants, no >lockups (so far, I just did it last night). >Graphics in GPL also look clearer. >Unreal Tournament and Half Life also look better, but no numbers to prove it. >HIGHLY recommended update. Looks like Diamond isn't going to support 3DII >anymore, so might as well rely on 3dfx for driver support. >> I did install different drivers, but no luck so far. I was hoping that >> someone else who had the same problem allready solved it. >> Someone said it was a specific SLI problem. But I want to keep using >> my Voodoo II SLI, because if I only use one Voodoo card, I can't play >> in 1024 resolution :( >> Andre >> >I can't offer any specific advice as I'm a TNT2 user, other than to say that >> >all my gpl video problems come and go as I experiment with different video >> >drivers, so I would suggest to maybe try some different ones. >> >>Very often GPL crashes when I start a race. When I hit the green >> >>button to start, GPL changes to the 3d mode, and then it crashes. >> >>I can't really describe what I see on the screen when it crashes. I >> >>see the menu, but in 1024 resolution, and it's corrupted. Really >> >>weird. I then have to quit with C-A-D. >> >>I also have this when I go back to the menu after a race. As soon as >> >>it changes back to the menu, it locks up. >> >>I have this maybe 1 out of 10 times, and it is so frustrating. >> >>Yesterday I had a wonderfull online race at the ring, and after the >> >>race I wanted to save the replay. I pressed escape, and GPL locked up >> >>again. >> >>I have a Voodoo II SLI, drive in 1024 resolution, and I have the >> >>latest Diamond drivers and Glide 2.53 installed. >> >>Any suggestions would be VERY welcome... >> >>Andre >> >-- >> >Don Scurlock >> >Vancouver,B.C. >Rob Adams >Victoria BC

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