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DTR rookie orientation program

10 posts by 6 people · 14 Dec 1999 - 17 Dec 1999

jbo.. 14 Dec 1999#508577
The Late Model Players Guide DTR site ([link lost in import] is now conducting a "licensing" program to allow drivers to enter into their upcoming online leagues. Here's the info from their site: ----- The popularity of Ratbags Dirt Track Racing is surely going to grow. And next year, we will have one (if not two) new dirt racing simulations from Ratbag, and they too will be fun, challenging, and demanding games to race competitively Online and Offline. In light of the coming explosion of dirt racing popularity, it is necessary now to establish a benchmark of driving competence, a 'Dirt License', that will allow us here at LMPG to proceed with our contest and competition plans knowing that we have qualified participants. ----- And here's a description of the procedure: ----- LMPG DTR License Test: Shawano Speedway, 3 laps Online, 'Proximity Control'. Each driver must show that he can successfully maintain a close distance (proximity) to the lead car (me) without undue contact or lagging behind. At the start of the test I will move in front of the applicants car, and he will seek to stay as close as he possibly can to my car over the course of 3 laps (including the first lap, which officially begins on the back shute of the first lap). I will drive a similar racing line throughout all laps in the test, and it will be a racing line that does not bring us close to the walls in the corners. I'll use certain gearing and tach indicators to keep my speed steady throughout all the tests. Light contact and occasional bumping is fine! I would prefer that you stay CLOSE, and suffer the occasional light contact, than for drivers to lag several car lengths behind. Hard contact, at any time during the test (especially in the corners) is very bad and will probably require a re-test (anytime after 10 days have past). I will consider 1 to 2 car lengths to be the average acceptable distance of proximity, with slightly more leeway allowed in the corners. Remember that 1 to 2 car lengths is an average! Do not be discouraged if you fall further behind for a few moments. Its the average gap thats important, though of course, the closer you stay and the longer you stay there the better. Look for me Online from 5:30-7:00 pm Mountain Time to test. (mail me if you need to set up a different time for yourself) ----- Check the site for info on how to join up to the test server. Congrats to Mark and the LMPG site -- I think this is a great idea that's long overdue. Now, instead of just applying to race in a league, you're going to have to show a minimum level of competence in order to be "licensend" to race -- and if you show too much INcompetence during a race, I presume that license could be revoked or suspended. Mark's licensing program doesn't dictate that only the fastest can race, it merely ensures that you will be racing against other COMPETENT drivers -- which may preclude a few of the ultra-fast hotshoes who can blow the rest of us away, yet still somehow can't manage to pull off a clean pass without using "bulldozer" techniques. Kudos for implementing this program, Mark. See you online! -- JB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
(unknown) 15 Dec 1999#508836
:) In fact, I drive the testing laps at a reduced speed. I do that because*** the back end out makes it much harder for people to stay close and directly behind. I'll tell you one thing though: I've tested about 20 people since we started yesterday and by now its almost instantly clear 'who can do what' with those racecars. Out of 20, 3 or 4 were excellent. 3 or 4 have to try again (couldnt stay close enough) and the rest were average. The excellent drivers really *did* show their DTR talent over the others, so at least I know the process is valid. Give it a try! :) MR p.s. ok to pass me? try it son, and I'll make you look like that character from the Peanuts cartoon...you know...the one who lives his life from within a dirt cloud (get my meaning :)? :) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Doug Gordon 15 Dec 1999#508838
How do you tell how close the qualifying car is to you? One thing sadly missing from DTR is a "replay" feature. I'd really like to see what my car is doing in the turns, but I only use the***pit view and it's hard to tell exactly how far you're really*** it out. I suppose I could go to the behind-car view, but I'm not sure that I could actually drive it the same way in "cheater" view! Doug Gordon (DG89) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
(unknown) 15 Dec 1999#508839
Hi Doug Gordon, Its really simple to tell how close they are, but like driving, its part done by feel. I use the rear view mirror of course, but I *know* (its a clear feeling in my gut) when the car behind is inside of say, 2 feet from my rear contact area. In the same way, I always race using the bumper view, and I have little problem knowing when I am within say 1 foot of the car ahead or the walls to my side etc. etc. even though I cant see the front of my car...or ANY part of my car! :) Its just a personal thing, but know that its not 'guessing'. Its a sense about distance I gained since Toca2, GP2 and before, because I only ever used the front bumper view all this time. The rear view mirror is used to see when people are too too far behind, and once they get within about a car length or two my animal instincts kick in (self preservation? :) MR Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Quoted text (23 lines)>> How do you tell how close the qualifying car is to you? One thing >sadly >> missing from DTR is a "replay" feature. I'd really like to see what my >> car is doing in the turns, but I only use the***pit view and it's >> hard to tell exactly how far you're really*** it out. I suppose I >> could go to the behind-car view, but I'm not sure that I could >actually >> drive it the same way in "cheater" view! >> Doug Gordon (DG89) > Hi Doug Gordon, >Its really simple to tell how close they are, but like driving, its part >done by feel. I use the rear view mirror of course, but I *know* (its a >clear feeling in my gut) when the car behind is inside of say, 2 feet >from my rear contact area. In the same way, I always race using the >bumper view, and I have little problem knowing when I am within say 1 >foot of the car ahead or the walls to my side etc. etc. even though I >cant see the front of my car...or ANY part of my car! :) Its just a >personal thing, but know that its not 'guessing'. Its a sense about >distance I gained since Toca2, GP2 and before, because I only ever used >the front bumper view all this time. The rear view mirror is used to >see when people are too too far behind, and once they get within about >a car length or two my animal instincts kick in (self preservation? :)
I assume that you play with the sound turned on? Maybe you've grown so used to using sound cues that you don't even realize it. When I'm racing DTR, I can tell there's someone on my ass just from the sound alone. --mountain K
(unknown) 16 Dec 1999#509086
Yeah, I've grown used to using sound cues.. and I finally got a sound card that gives placement cues (so-called '3D sound' card), and its just fantastic. One more thing: we are using the LMPG DTR License thing to also get people to send in their personal car skin, its a 'licensed drivers only thing'. They get their car showcased on the site, but more important, other licensed drivers can download them and then when we race together we can turn off the names above the cars and still recognize each other by the paint jobs. Theres a very good driver with a tiger skin paint job, and yesterday I saw his car in online racing for the first time. Its really a great thing to do. MR Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
>Theres a very good driver with a tiger skin paint job, and yesterday I >saw his car in online racing for the first time. Its really a great >thing to do. But, you have to have the skin installed yourself to "see" the other players' custom skins, right? Or am I mistaken? --mK
btgoss 17 Dec 1999#509307
(In my best Ed MacMahaon voice.) YOU ARE CORRECT SIRAH! Thank You. Brit -- The Artist formerly known as the Mocker > >Theres a very good driver with a tiger skin paint job, and yesterday I > >saw his car in online racing for the first time. Its really a great > >thing to do.

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