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GPL Online Pileup Frustration

11 posts by 8 people · 13 Dec 1999 - 16 Dec 1999

Michael 13 Dec 1999#508371
OK - GPL online racing is fantastic. Lets get that out of the way first. However.. I've found whenever I enter a race with 12+ cars there is a 95% chance of a first bend pileup - even when people are well behaved. It just seems that any warping effect whatsoever leads to disaster. Last night at Kyalami, I had to stop dead in the middle of the track at the first corner where the pileup was - watching cars jumping into the air, spinning round and round, bursting into flames etc. I was trying to pick a way through but no, someone warped into me and I was hurled into the air to join the fray. This isn't too bad if you can press shift-R and get back into the race. This brings me to the question - why does anyone run PRO races? It just seems unfair to be out of a race in the first few seconds through no fault of your own! I appreciate the realism of having realistic damage once the race is under way, but until this problem is sorted out, no one should run Pro servers. Probably the best way would be to have collisions turned off for the first 1/2 lap. This wouldn't be realistic but neither is the crazy antics of an online pileup. - Michael
Good idea: Shift-R should be usable during the first minute of the game, even on PRO races. Now that would save a lot of frustration. I had the same thing too yesterday. 17 drivers, I qualified 6th, had a good start, and in Curve Grande someone thought he could take it full speed in fifth gear. He rammed me from behind. Allthough this was not a warping problem but more of a stupid human driver behind me problem, it was frustrating to be out of the race so soon after 20 minutes of qualifying. Still, the best thing to avoid starting pileups is to qualify 1th... Andre
john moore 13 Dec 1999#508373
No doubt that this "problem" affects every online racing sim/game but that's why leagues are formed and password races come up. Try to find a group that runs clean and run clean yourself, it will still happen but ........... As for me I, when joining pickup races on WinVroc I could care less about where I qualify, the other night I was last on the grid and was looking 5 cars ahead I saw it coming and picked my way thru the carnage ( a little luck helps) and was in 2nd place by turn two, a couple laps later the leader spun and I went on to win, and I drove pretty conservatively the whole time. To quote someone "to finish first you must first finish" another quote " it's easier to lose a race on the first lap than to win it" Another race someone decided to pass me into turn one and make it 3 wide into curva grande..... Keep racing, JM
Karl Zosel 13 Dec 1999#508374
Now you know how it feels when your name is Schumacher and Hill knocks you off the track just like that. (Monza and Silverstone 95)
Dave Henrie 13 Dec 1999#508376
Or when same Schumacher see's his title evaporating in Australia, he hit Hill back. And Ville as the next Williams WC came through..:) dave henrie
Michael 14 Dec 1999#508603
says... Unfortunately this wouldn't necessarily have solved your "stupid human" problem:-) I always dread that 1st turn at Rouen - it's a real bottleneck and anyone who doesn't brake enough - BAM! - Michael
yes, but you will see a lot less idiots on pro servers. our GGPLC server runs pro races for some weeks now and we have very few pileups. I think that the combination of a 1x1 staggered grid (we use the distance 6 of bart westras grids) and PRO helps a lot against pileups and the "human problem". if you know that you can do a shift-r, you will not be as careful as without ... Lio
m.seery 14 Dec 1999#508605
Hahahahahaha. Pots, kettles and cauldrons. MS
Michael 16 Dec 1999#509095
says... That's true, but sometimes the pile-up is nobody's fault - just unlucky warping at a critical situation with the cars close together. - Michael
yep, but with intermediate, you have the next one 2 turns later and then I am sure annoyed and quit. Lio

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