new LWFF very noisy

I picked up a LWFF last week. This is my first experience with a force feedback device, so I don't know if the noises it makes are simply to be expected. Even when driving in a non-ff sim, like CART Racing (the reissue of ICR2), it makes a considerable amount of "creaking" noises. Do they all do that? Will it get quieter with some wear? Should I attempt to open it up and lubricate anything? Dave Wilson Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Take it back. I've used my LWFF daily for over a year with nary a squeek or rattle. -- don [|]-(_)-[|]

The logi makes some noises. 1. screetching from the plastic bearings - can be cured by ball bearing conversion. 2. scratching noises, which come from the motors carbon-brushes. Can only be cured by changing the motor (have a look at Mauritz's ball bearing conversion page) Jens

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>I picked up a LWFF last week. This is my first experience with a force >feedback device, so I don't know if the noises it makes are simply to >be expected. Even when driving in a non-ff sim, like CART Racing (the >reissue of ICR2), it makes a considerable amount of "creaking" noises. >Do they all do that? Will it get quieter with some wear? Should I >attempt to open it up and lubricate anything? >Dave Wilson >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy.

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Thankyou -- I'm studying that material now. Can you, or anyone else who's performed this conversion, tell me if they had the machining done as shown in his drawings? Or is there a way to put in the bearings that I could do myself? (I'm reasonable with tools, but real machining is beyond me.) Dave Wilson > The logi makes some noises. > 1. screetching from the plastic bearings - can be cured by ball bearing > conversion. > 2. scratching noises, which come from the motors carbon-brushes. Can only be > cured by changing the motor (have a look at Mauritz's ball bearing conversion

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> page) > Jens > >I picked up a LWFF last week. This is my first experience with a

force > >feedback device, so I don't know if the noises it makes are simply to > >be expected. Even when driving in a non-ff sim, like CART Racing (the > >reissue of ICR2), it makes a considerable amount of "creaking" noises.

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> >Do they all do that? Will it get quieter with some wear? Should I > >attempt to open it up and lubricate anything? > >Dave Wilson > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > >Before you buy. > --------------------------------------------- > Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address > Visit my webpage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ for some

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Hmmm, I just bought a LWFF and found it very noisy as well. For $160 it shouldn't have this problem. So it's either live with it, or destroy your warranty by taking the thing apart? For myself this is an indication of a product of poor quality , and of a company that doesn't care enough to fix it. A bad sign. Gonna pack it up and return it. Alan

I did the conversion with some minor changes to Mauritz's page, unluckily not documented. Even if you can buy kit in future, there are some changes to be made inside the wheel, which require a lathe. I haven't checked, whether the design could be changed to a lathe free installation, considered a kit is available. Jens

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>Thankyou -- I'm studying that material now. Can you, or anyone else >who's performed this conversion, tell me if they had the machining done >as shown in his drawings? Or is there a way to put in the bearings >that I could do myself? (I'm reasonable with tools, but real machining >is beyond me.) >Dave Wilson

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