Nascar help?

I need some help. I installed N2k3 to another pc and created a new user ID. Now when I log on with my primary ID, I get a message that some is already logged on with my CD key. The other PC isn't even on. What do I have to do? Thx -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League OAO CORS MARA TransAm RASCAR GPL Rank + 17.415 MoGPL Rank + 318.586 N2002 Rank + 7.695 TransAm Rank ??

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> I need some help. I installed N2k3 to another pc and created a new user ID. > Now when I log on with my primary ID, I get a message that some is already > logged on with my CD key. The other PC isn't even on. > What do I have to do? > > Thx > >

1) What happens when you try to do the same thing using your primary machine, and using your original user ID? 2) Is this for the server you're trying to setup?

1) What happens when you try to do the same thing using your primary machine, and using your original user ID? --- I am using my primary machine when I get that message. 2) Is this for the server you're trying to setup? -- The server I'm trying to setup is the machine I just installed N2K3 on. I made the new ID from that machine. I logged off and the machine is sitting idle, nothing is running. I try to log on from my primary racing machine and get the message that someone is already logged on with my CD key. OK. Oddness. I went out cycling around for 2 hours. Now I can can log on with my primary machine and primary ID. It must take some time for Sierra to figure out that each ID has logged out. -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League OAO CORS MARA TransAm RASCAR GPL Rank + 17.415 MoGPL Rank + 318.586 N2002 Rank + 7.695 TransAm Rank ??

Hey John, If I use Demons to start my server with my alternate Sierra ID and CD key, when I try to log on with my primary Sierra ID to race, I wonder if I'll get the same message? Forgive the newbie questions, I'm new to this. I'll be fiddling with this tonight and tomorow, for fun? ;-) -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League OAO CORS MARA TransAm RASCAR GPL Rank + 17.415 MoGPL Rank + 318.586 N2002 Rank + 7.695 TransAm Rank ??

In article <7szmb.10498$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Hey John, If I use Demons to start my server with my alternate Sierra ID and > CD key, when I try to log on with my primary Sierra ID to race, I wonder if > I'll get the same message? Well, the CD key means nothing to the server code, since nobody can ban your server. It's just a mechanism Sierra uses to annoy us and otherwise protect their intellectual property. :) The server must have it's own sierra ID and sierra password. The CD does not have to be in the drive when running a dedicated server. DeMONS has nothing to do with and cannot resolve that error message about your CD key already being in use. That's a sierra thing and happens sometimes when you log off and then log right back on. It's never happened to me, but I've seen it happen to others. If it happens a lot to your server machine, DeMONS can be problematic since the the sim does not shutdown when it encounters a log-in problem. It just sits there waiting for a human to click OK or CANCEL. If the sim launches, DeMONS assumes everything is okay, and there's really no way to determine otherwise that I know of. Lastly, DeMONS lets the sim run one race, then lets it shutdown before starting the next race. The delay between shutdown and startup for the next race can be anywhere from 15 seconds to 60 minutes (user-definable at 1- minute, quarter hour, half hour, or toip-of-the-hour). > Forgive the newbie questions, I'm new to this. No problem. :)

In article <7szmb.10498$[email hidden]>, "ZZ" <[email hidden]> writes: >Hey John, If I use Demons to start my server with my alternate Sierra ID and >CD key, when I try to log on with my primary Sierra ID to race, I wonder if >I'll get the same message? I'm not John, but no you won't. As long as you have an ID for the server, and a different ID for your client, you'll be ok. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <mpzmb.10486$[email hidden]>, "ZZ" <[email hidden]> writes: >OK. Oddness. I went out cycling around for 2 hours. Now I can can log on >with my primary machine and primary ID. It must take some time for Sierra to >figure out that each ID has logged out. > Something else used to do that as well. Battle.net, maybe? I seem to remember getting locked out after being discoed before.. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <7szmb.10498$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > Hey John, If I use Demons to start my server with my alternate Sierra IDand > > CD key, when I try to log on with my primary Sierra ID to race, I wonderif > > I'll get the same message? > > Well, the CD key means nothing to the server code, since nobody can > ban your server. It's just a mechanism Sierra uses to annoy us and > otherwise protect their intellectual property. :) > I'd go so far, to add to John's advice, to say that the CD key means nothing when serving period. You need the CD key to install the software the first time, but if you're running the install strictly as a server, you never need the CD or CD key again so far as I know. The CD key is strictly for the client side in NR2003, when dealing with Sierra anyway. And as John correctly pointed out, to make sure that you don't get more than one client's use out of a CD at any one time when using Sierra. ID's on the other hand, can take a little bit to clear if the connection to Sierra is interrupted or shakey. I've had times where I was booted from a race (by the connection timing out, not being ejected) and couldn't log back in for a few minutes because of the dreaded 'ID already in use' junk.