Act Labs or Guillemot Racing Wheels?

I'm going to buy a FF wheel real soon. I want a shifter lever, so have decided on either the Act Labs Force and the Shifter or the Guillemot Ferrari Force wheel. I found one review of the Guillemot wheel (good review at mgprs2.com) but would like to read more. Does anybody know of any other reviews on the Guillemot wheel, when it will be available and about how much (US) ? Also, would anyone using either wheel let me know how its working out. Hmmm, actually I could get a LWFF and make my own shift lever, wouldn't be too hard... :) Slot

Hello, I have a review of the ACT LABS Force RS up at Powersims (http://www.Powersims.com). On the main page, select controllers under the reviews/hardware section. Scott PA-Scott Powersims.com COO MMMGI -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450

I have the Force-RS and the RS-Shifter review up at: www.rs2league.com/reviews/reviews_main.htm cheers, Shumi http://www.rs2league.com

Hi Slot, There is a review of the two wheels in December's issues of Maximum PC. I really don't think there is any comparison. We have the only "independent" shifter. This means that you can shift from 5 to 2, or 4 to 1 directly rather than having to go through the gears consecutivlely. You can also check out the review at www.anandtech.com www.rs2league.com Raymond ACT LABS

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>I'm going to buy a FF wheel real soon. I want a shifter lever, so have >decided on either the Act Labs Force and the Shifter or the Guillemot >Ferrari Force wheel. I found one review of the Guillemot wheel (good review >at mgprs2.com) but would like to read more. Does anybody know of any other >reviews on the Guillemot wheel, when it will be available and about how much >(US) ? Also, would anyone using either wheel let me know how its working >out. Hmmm, actually I could get a LWFF and make my own shift lever, wouldn't >be too hard... :) >Slot

Raymond ACT LABS

Thanks for the replies, but I think you guys misunderstood me. There are lots of reviews on the Act Labs combo. What I wanted to read is another review on the Guillemot wheel. Phil Lee's post with his review actually helped a lot. It seems like a nice wheel and cheaper than the Act Labs. However, I've been on Guillemot's web site and in their own forum and must say that they seem to be a flakey company. Raymond's (from Act Labs) reply to my post here is more than anyone is getting on Guillemot's own forum! I'm reasonably sure that the Act is a better made and stronger unit and will probably last longer, and also think their tech support is much better and responsive. The shifter is nice and may become the next gaming revolution, though at this time I really don't care about a gated shifter, I may in the future when its all the rage. The only drawback I see to the Act Labs Wheel and Shifter combo (besides the price) is that in most of the reviews they say the large motor causes some notchy feeling to the wheel. This would cause it to be less precise in steering critical angles. But nobody mentions if this can be eliminated by turning down the FF effect's strength. Most of the reviews spend a lot of time talking about the box it came in and showing you pictures of the motor and stuff. I want to know how it FEELS in lots of driving sims, from Monster Truck Madness2 to MGPRS2 and everywhere in between. I wish I could review it myself. I could buy the Act Labs units and try them under their 30 day guarantee, but if I wanted to return them it would cost me $40 in lost shipping (20 bucks each way). The Guillemot wheel would do the trick for me, but its not available in the US yet and there is no place to email a sales dept. at Guillemot to find out when it will be (stupid, right?). I want a FF wheel NOW!! :) Slot (GTX_SlotCar -- Team GTX, 1998 and 1999 Monster Truck Madness 2 world champions)

Thanks for the replies, but I think you guys misunderstood me. There are lots of reviews on the Act Labs combo. What I wanted to read is another review on the Guillemot wheel. Phil Lee's post with his review actually helped a lot. It seems like a nice wheel and cheaper than the Act Labs. However, I've been on Guillemot's web site and in their own forum and must say that they seem to be a flakey company. Raymond's (from Act Labs) reply to my post here is more than anyone is getting on Guillemot's own forum! I'm reasonably sure that the Act is a better made and stronger unit and will probably last longer, and also think their tech support is much better and responsive. The shifter is nice and may become the next gaming revolution, though at this time I really don't care about a gated shifter, I may in the future when its all the rage. The only drawback I see to the Act Labs Wheel and Shifter combo (besides the price) is that in most of the reviews they say the large motor causes some notchy feeling to the wheel. This would cause it to be less precise in steering critical angles. But nobody mentions if this can be eliminated by turning down the FF effect's strength. Most of the reviews spend a lot of time talking about the box it came in and showing you pictures of the motor and stuff. I want to know how it FEELS in lots of driving sims, from Monster Truck Madness2 to MGPRS2 and everywhere in between. I wish I could review it myself. I could buy the Act Labs units and try them under their 30 day guarantee, but if I wanted to return them it would cost me $40 in lost shipping (20 bucks each way). The Guillemot wheel would do the trick for me, but its not available in the US yet and there is no place to email a sales dept. at Guillemot to find out when it will be (stupid, right?). I want a FF wheel NOW!! :) Slot (GTX_SlotCar -- Team GTX, 1998 and 1999 Monster Truck Madness 2 world champions)

Ah shoot. I didn't mean to post this twice. Always clear your clipboard :( Sorry

Are you guys sucking up to Papyrus to get support for the RS Shifter in GPL? You should be <g>. When and if that happens, your sales will surely increase IMO. --David Cook "Raymond, ACT LABS" wrote:

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> Hi Slot, > There is a review of the two wheels in December's issues of Maximum > PC. I really don't think there is any comparison. We have the only > "independent" shifter. This means that you can shift from 5 to 2, or > 4 to 1 directly rather than having to go through the gears > consecutivlely. You can also check out the review at > www.anandtech.com > www.rs2league.com > > Raymond > ACT LABS > > On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:15:10 -0500, "deroy" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I'm going to buy a FF wheel real soon. I want a shifter lever, so have > >decided on either the Act Labs Force and the Shifter or the Guillemot > >Ferrari Force wheel. I found one review of the Guillemot wheel (good review > >at mgprs2.com) but would like to read more. Does anybody know of any other > >reviews on the Guillemot wheel, when it will be available and about how much > >(US) ? Also, would anyone using either wheel let me know how its working > >out. Hmmm, actually I could get a LWFF and make my own shift lever, wouldn't > >be too hard... :) > > > >Slot > > > > > > Raymond > ACT LABS

Hi Joerg, (my news server went down and I had to remove/re-install my news account, instead of my last name, DeRoy, I entered my online name/team this time) Looks cheap, oh no :( Unforntunately that's not what I wanted to hear pal. I just ordered the Ferrari wheel online last night for $130 (free shipping??) I should have it by Thurs or Fri and after using it a couple days I'll also post a review. I do know that if the wheel you saw had one clamp, flimsy paddles and soft pedal springs, its the old version. I just hope it doesn't look cheap. I bought it because Phil's post was positive, the review and my conversations at mgprs2 were good, the price is right, and if I don't like it I can always sell it to someone less critical or on eBay. Also, one review (just one) said the Act Labs felt notchy and that may make the steering less precise in some games where a one degree heading at a point in a corner may be critical. I have never driven with FF so I can only imagine the feeling. If I was an experience FF user it may not bother me, I don't know. One thing I'm sure about, judging from their web sites, Guillemot is kinda flakey and Act Labs is a class act, the company and the products. I may end up with one of their units yet. My 5 year old boy can't use a wheel because he can't reach the pedals, may he could use the Ferrari's levers :) In the end, if I wasn't happy with any of these wheels, I'll get a LWFF and make my own shifting lever. Slot

Please send me a review of the Guilllemot wheel. I still got a customized T2 now to race GPL. Would love to buy a new one. [email hidden]

Karl, get back to me in a week and I'll give you a review. If I get it Thursday like I should, I should be able to evaluate it by Sunday. Slot Karl Zosel wrote in message <8304js$9v1$[email hidden]>...

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>Please send me a review of the Guilllemot wheel. >I still got a customized T2 now to race GPL. > >Would love to buy a new one. > >[email hidden] > > > >

Guillemot Wheel Review: www.mgprs2.com Cheers, Shumi Karl Zosel <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8304js$9v1$[email hidden]...

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> Please send me a review of the Guilllemot wheel. > I still got a customized T2 now to race GPL. > > Would love to buy a new one. > > [email hidden] > > > >

I cant find the act labs wheel at any store in Oklahoma. What retailers carry your wheels?

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>Hello Slot, >FYI, some of our users report a "notchy" feeling. This is likely >attributable to the Kevlar reinforced belts used in our RS. It >usually takes about 10 hours of use to "break in" the belts. >Raymond >ACT LABS >>Hi Joerg, >> (my news server went down and I had to remove/re-install my news account, >>instead of my last name, DeRoy, I entered my online name/team this time) >>Looks cheap, oh no :( Unforntunately that's not what I wanted to

hear >>pal. I just ordered the Ferrari wheel online last night for $130 (free >>shipping??) I should have it by Thurs or Fri and after using it a couple >>days I'll also post a review. I do know that if the wheel you saw had one >>clamp, flimsy paddles and soft pedal springs, its the old version. I just >>hope it doesn't look cheap. I bought it because Phil's post was positive, >>the review and my conversations at mgprs2 were good, the price is right, and >>if I don't like it I can always sell it to someone less critical or on eBay. >>Also, one review (just one) said the Act Labs felt notchy and that may make >>the steering less precise in some games where a one degree heading at a >>point in a corner may be critical. I have never driven with FF so I can only >>imagine the feeling. If I was an experience FF user it may not bother me, I >>don't know. One thing I'm sure about, judging from their web sites, >>Guillemot is kinda flakey and Act Labs is a class act, the company and the >>products. I may end up with one of their units yet. My 5 year old boy can't >>use a wheel because he can't reach the pedals, may he could use the >>Ferrari's levers :) In the end, if I wasn't happy with any of these wheels, >>I'll get a LWFF and make my own shifting lever. >>Slot >Raymond >ACT LABS

Hello David, Hey, whatever it takes to bring a better *** experience to the driving sim enthusiast. If that means sucking up to Papyrus, then that's what we'll do. :) GPL support for our RS Shifter is a two way street. Papyrus would surely benefit as much as ourselves if they implemented a patch that supports the ACT LABS RS Shifter. Please e-mail Papyrus yourself as well if you would like to see RS Shifter support. :) The more "pressure" they receive, the better. :) Raymond ACT LABS On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 17:54:55 -0500, "David L. Cook"

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>Are you guys sucking up to Papyrus to get support for the RS Shifter in GPL? You >should be <g>. When and if that happens, your sales will surely increase IMO. >--David Cook >> Hi Slot, >> There is a review of the two wheels in December's issues of Maximum >> PC. I really don't think there is any comparison. We have the only >> "independent" shifter. This means that you can shift from 5 to 2, or >> 4 to 1 directly rather than having to go through the gears >> consecutivlely. You can also check out the review at >> www.anandtech.com >> www.rs2league.com >> Raymond >> ACT LABS >> >I'm going to buy a FF wheel real soon. I want a shifter lever, so have >> >decided on either the Act Labs Force and the Shifter or the Guillemot >> >Ferrari Force wheel. I found one review of the Guillemot wheel (good review >> >at mgprs2.com) but would like to read more. Does anybody know of any other >> >reviews on the Guillemot wheel, when it will be available and about how much >> >(US) ? Also, would anyone using either wheel let me know how its working >> >out. Hmmm, actually I could get a LWFF and make my own shift lever, wouldn't >> >be too hard... :) >> >Slot >> Raymond >> ACT LABS

Raymond ACT LABS

Hello, Please note that retail distribution for our products in Germany are in the works. For the time being, you can try CD Contract Data at 31-77-32-32-832. Raymond ACT LABS

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>Hi deroy, >I am in a very similar situation. My favorite would be the Act Labs. >>driving sims, from Monster Truck Madness2 to MGPRS2 and everywhere in >I am only interested in the latter. >>between. I wish I could review it myself. I could buy the Act Labs units and >>try them under their 30 day guarantee, but if I wanted to return them it >Thats the point where you are lucky. I can not buy the Act Labs here >in Germany. They want US$85 for shipping (not including tax and custom >fees) and do not have a retailer here! (Imagine the price if I had to >return it (because of a defect like one of the reviewer mentioned). >>would cost me $40 in lost shipping (20 bucks each way). The Guillemot wheel >>would do the trick for me, but its not available in the US yet and there is >>no place to email a sales dept. at Guillemot to find out when it will be >>(stupid, right?). I want a FF wheel NOW!! :) >Thats the point where I am lucky. I have seen the Guillemot (Ferrari >isnt it) in a store near by. What I like about it is the throttle and >break levers at the wheel. What I do not like is that I can not >imagine how to use them together with the shifters - too few and too >short fingers. Id like to use the gas- and break levers and the >buttons to shift, like the TM GP1 if you know this wheel. But I do not >know if this will work. The whole unit looks cheap and the wheel is >slippery, yet I have not tested it with MGPRS2. I want a FF wheel now >as well but I left the Guillemot in the store. I might have bought it >if I had not read the Act Labs reviews... >Maybe that helps. >Joerg >-- >Please remove the _ from my email address if you want to reply by >mail.

Raymond ACT LABS

Hello Slot, FYI, some of our users report a "notchy" feeling. This is likely attributable to the Kevlar reinforced belts used in our RS. It usually takes about 10 hours of use to "break in" the belts. Raymond ACT LABS Raymond ACT LABS

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>I'm going to buy a FF wheel real soon. I want a shifter lever, so have >decided on either the Act Labs Force and the Shifter or the Guillemot >Ferrari Force wheel. I found one review of the Guillemot wheel (good review >at mgprs2.com) but would like to read more. Does anybody know of any other >reviews on the Guillemot wheel, when it will be available and about how much >(US) ? Also, would anyone using either wheel let me know how its working >out. Hmmm, actually I could get a LWFF and make my own shift lever, wouldn't >be too hard... :) >Slot

<Raymond, ACT LABS> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: Great news, any info about german release date? TIA Zolli